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Hello... Debated between a couple monitors here: https://www.philips.ca/c-p/328E1CA_27/curved-lcd-monitor-with-ultra-wide-color & https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-38WK95C-W-ultrawide-monitor I was lucky enough to get a 6800XT so the 4k Wont be much more strain on the GPU... I made a comparison with actually same size MFDs and What you can physically see on each Monitor... Wondering what will be better Ultrawide 38401600 or 16:9 3840x2160

Ultrawide has a PPI of 110

32" a PPI of 139 


Also Using Track IR which will influence the experience and therefore the decision...
I figured this would help other's in the same situation so I decided to share my thought process.

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Thanks for this, I am also in making this decision. I want to be able to see the ball more clearly when rolling out in the groove, as well as seeing instruments with less need to zoom in. I'm guessing 4K would be best for this? 

 

How is the 6800 XT treating you? I'm very tempted myself, but worried about AMD drivers etc. 😁

 

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6 hours ago, _Digby_ said:

Thanks for this, I am also in making this decision. I want to be able to see the ball more clearly when rolling out in the groove, as well as seeing instruments with less need to zoom in. I'm guessing 4K would be best for this? 

 

How is the 6800 XT treating you? I'm very tempted myself, but worried about AMD drivers etc. 😁

 

Digby

 


Hello, 

Well yes I thought also initially about the 32" to be my preference, Sharper Monitor and since I did to Benchmarks on a 4K TV and a custom resolution of 3840x 1600 the FPS where within 5-10 FPS with 2xMSAA on the 6800XT.

But since the Vertical real-estate compared those two monitors (39.5 Tall on the 38"Ultrawide and 42.5 on the 32" 4K) is not really that different, going for the ultra wide you give up some sharpness but gain a lot of Horizontal extra space. Since this will be a one Monitor Setup, my thoughts are also about being able to display PDFs with Checklists and Approach Plates so If I go Picture in Picture with the Ultrawide I could for example go 2:1 (3200x1600) and have 640x1600 for the PDF Viewer and other stuff on the side. 

About the 6800XT I will post some Benchmarks I did down the road. For example I can (Single Player) run Everything Ultra/High/Extreme with MSAA and SSAA 1.5 and never drop 60fps 1440p on the 6800XT where as with the 1080TI I have to turn off 1.5 SSAA to achieve the same.

I have to say I only got a Ryzen 2700 overclocked to 3900Mhz restricted to 8 cores & 8 threats. So powered with a better Processor the 6800 would do a lot better I can imagine. But in terms of driver issues It's plug an play. When I tried the 6800XT vs 1080TI where it made the biggest difference was 4k with MSAA. 
And when testing other Games like Divison 2 1440p Ultra I went from 85 fps to 147 with the 6800XT and Afterburner is reporting only 250 Watts so pretty sweet.
I had to learn that the stock Fan curve is tweaked for silence not for cooling  so max is 29% or 50% in Rage mode.... I got into the 80s temp wise. but once opening up the fan curve to 100% she would not exceed 67 C with the fan sitting arround 70-80% 

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I just got a 34Inch wide screen. Absolutely love it. I even dug out my track IR because DCS looks great in UHD 21:9 Enjoy your choice 🙂

 

Mine is the IIyama Red Eagle GB3466 in case your interested. Its 144Hz 3440 x 1440

 


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On 12/14/2020 at 4:47 PM, HansPeter1981 said:


Hello, 

Well yes I thought also initially about the 32" to be my preference, Sharper Monitor and since I did to Benchmarks on a 4K TV and a custom resolution of 3840x 1600 the FPS where within 5-10 FPS with 2xMSAA on the 6800XT.

But since the Vertical real-estate compared those two monitors (39.5 Tall on the 38"Ultrawide and 42.5 on the 32" 4K) is not really that different, going for the ultra wide you give up some sharpness but gain a lot of Horizontal extra space. Since this will be a one Monitor Setup, my thoughts are also about being able to display PDFs with Checklists and Approach Plates so If I go Picture in Picture with the Ultrawide I could for example go 2:1 (3200x1600) and have 640x1600 for the PDF Viewer and other stuff on the side. 

About the 6800XT I will post some Benchmarks I did down the road. For example I can (Single Player) run Everything Ultra/High/Extreme with MSAA and SSAA 1.5 and never drop 60fps 1440p on the 6800XT where as with the 1080TI I have to turn off 1.5 SSAA to achieve the same.

I have to say I only got a Ryzen 2700 overclocked to 3900Mhz restricted to 8 cores & 8 threats. So powered with a better Processor the 6800 would do a lot better I can imagine. But in terms of driver issues It's plug an play. When I tried the 6800XT vs 1080TI where it made the biggest difference was 4k with MSAA. 
And when testing other Games like Divison 2 1440p Ultra I went from 85 fps to 147 with the 6800XT and Afterburner is reporting only 250 Watts so pretty sweet.
I had to learn that the stock Fan curve is tweaked for silence not for cooling  so max is 29% or 50% in Rage mode.... I got into the 80s temp wise. but once opening up the fan curve to 100% she would not exceed 67 C with the fan sitting arround 70-80% 

 

Pretty negligible difference then; the added FOV being better than the added clarity of 4K. Also, 4K 144 Hz G-Sync / FreeSync2 will cost an arm and a leg but is relatively affordable at 1440p UW. 

 

Benchmarks would be cool to see! The 6800 XT looks like the way forwards then; good to hear they sorted the drivers compared to the 5700 XT! 

 

8 hours ago, Cibit said:

I just got a 34Inch wide screen. Absolutely love it. I even dug out my track IR because DCS looks great in UHD 21:9 Enjoy your choice 🙂

 

Mine is the IIyama Red Eagle GB3466 in case your interested. Its 144Hz 3440 x 1440

 

 

Ah yes, I was looking at that one too! Looks to be very good value with all the features. How readable are MFDs / spotting? Does FreeSync2 work well? 

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Digby

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Thanks for posting this. As I'm using a 32" 4K monitor myself, I was considering that the next one would be either the 37.5" as shown or perhaps even one of those 49" 1440p where you lose 10% more in the vertical, but gain even more on the sides. I have to say that the 4K sharpness is pretty cool though and ideally there would be some 37.5" 2160p monitor.

 

I guess 37.5" would be more practical in many other scenarios in general, but I'm also kind of convinced that something like the 49" G9 with a strong curvature would be more immersive in DCS than 37.5".


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I’ve tried everything over the past few years: triple screens, single large 4K, 49” ultra-widescreen, 37” 3440x1440 and 3440x1600. In the end I came back to the single large 4K monitor. I currently use the LG CX 48” 4K OLED and I’m very happy with it.

In my experience, nothing beats the immersion of a large 4K monitor, because you’re not sacrificing any vertical resolution and thereby losing top or bottom of the cockpit, and you can make everything seem nearly lifelike in size, eliminating the need to zoom or lean in to read things.

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