witwas Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Hi Guys, Recently bought a Gunfighter MKIII with the 10 cm extension. Really like the product. But i am a bit struggling which cams and spring combination to use. I personally like strong recentering but no click around the middle (smooth transition between the axis). I used the aviator and space cams with moderate strong springs but i always get the 'click'. On my previous TM Warthog is never had the 'click' and it is a bit hard to get used to. Any Advise Link to post Share on other sites
dburne Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 hour ago, witwas said: Hi Guys, Recently bought a Gunfighter MKIII with the 10 cm extension. Really like the product. But i am a bit struggling which cams and spring combination to use. I personally like strong recentering but no click around the middle (smooth transition between the axis). I used the aviator and space cams with moderate strong springs but i always get the 'click'. On my previous TM Warthog is never had the 'click' and it is a bit hard to get used to. Any Advise Really the only way you will find what feels right to you, is to experiment. Pretty easy to change out springs and cams, just take notes and try different combinations to see what feels best to you. Perhaps someone will come along that thinks they have theirs setup the way you are describing and can help. But really it does not take that long to change them out. Don B My VKB Gunfighter MK III Pro L Review EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.2 GHz | EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra | 32 GB G Skill Trident Z 3200 MHz CL14 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler | Samsung 970 Pro, 970 Evo 1TB m.2 Nvme |VKB GF MK III Pro L Ultimate Grip| Virpil CM3 Throttle |Reverb G2 | Link to post Share on other sites
Aurelius Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 I would look at VKB's new space sim cams with no center that are close to linear (and not progressive) Witwas. I would then match them with two #40 springs on each cam, or you could even try two #50 cams on each cam. Officially, VKB will not warrantly a broken Mark II or III base when used with more than two #40 springs but the steel cams can support two #50 springs each which would give you a very stiff feel even with your extension. And like Don says, you're just gonna have to experiment. One of the best ways to appreciate the beauty of the Multiverse is to learn the language in which it is written, ...... mathematics. i9-10940X - ASUS ROG Rampage VI Extreme Omega - 64 GB 3600 MHz - Testing RTX 3090 and 6900 XT - VKB Kosmosima SCE - CH Franken Potato Pro Throttle - Slaw Viper RX V2 - Reverb G2 JayTheSkepticalEngineer.com Link to post Share on other sites
streakeagle Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Two #50 can damage the bearings. I lost one of my bearings that way. I use both the 10cm and 20cm extensions as needed depending on the grip. I have found that I prefer single #50 or two #40. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to post Share on other sites
witwas Posted December 9, 2020 Author Share Posted December 9, 2020 Thanks for the advice, tested a few configurations yesterday and ended up with the soft aviator cams and single #50's. The 'click' is gone but still a bit to soft around the center for me but already a huge difference. Link to post Share on other sites
dburne Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Yeah one #50 is fine for me. Don B My VKB Gunfighter MK III Pro L Review EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.2 GHz | EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra | 32 GB G Skill Trident Z 3200 MHz CL14 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler | Samsung 970 Pro, 970 Evo 1TB m.2 Nvme |VKB GF MK III Pro L Ultimate Grip| Virpil CM3 Throttle |Reverb G2 | Link to post Share on other sites
streakeagle Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 I really love this stick. Winwing thought that after trying their stick, I would like it more than the VKB, but there is no comparison. While Winwing's stick is a big improvement over the Warthog and their take on the Hornet grip is also superior to TM Hornet grip, I still feel and hear the cams as I cross the center. The VKB is as smooth as butter and still centers almost perfectly even with a 20 cm extension and heavy metal TM grips. 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to post Share on other sites
dburne Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 9 hours ago, streakeagle said: I really love this stick. Winwing thought that after trying their stick, I would like it more than the VKB, but there is no comparison. While Winwing's stick is a big improvement over the Warthog and their take on the Hornet grip is also superior to TM Hornet grip, I still feel and hear the cams as I cross the center. The VKB is as smooth as butter and still centers almost perfectly even with a 20 cm extension and heavy metal TM grips. I am with you there, been using my Mk III hard for 11 months now and it is smooth as can be. Don B My VKB Gunfighter MK III Pro L Review EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.2 GHz | EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra | 32 GB G Skill Trident Z 3200 MHz CL14 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler | Samsung 970 Pro, 970 Evo 1TB m.2 Nvme |VKB GF MK III Pro L Ultimate Grip| Virpil CM3 Throttle |Reverb G2 | Link to post Share on other sites
hipp55 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 If you do not mind what is the difference between the AVIA H and S It looks like more of a dip in the middle Thanks Link to post Share on other sites
RightYouAreKen Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 On 1/7/2021 at 3:19 PM, hipp55 said: If you do not mind what is the difference between the AVIA H and S It looks like more of a dip in the middle Thanks The Avia H (hard center) will have more of a solid center detent feeling than the Avia S (soft center) which feels smoother through the middle but without as strong a feel when you're centered on each axis. I like the soft center cams myself. Link to post Share on other sites
hipp55 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Thanks I think I will stick with the S for know. I fly the Ka 50 and MI 8 quite a bit so it sounds better, Link to post Share on other sites
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