SliderCDN - Random CTD, unable to start

[SliderCDN]

@silverdevil DCS.exe isn't even listed in Nvidia control panel and the folder where those 2 files are supposed to be is empty. I will try playing DCS again and maybe I can catch them then.

Edited December 5, 2020 by SliderCDN

[silverdevil]

forgive me if this was mentioned and i missed the answer. have you tried to run DCS with only one monitor?

[SliderCDN]

33 minutes ago, silverdevil said:

forgive me if this was mentioned and i missed the answer. have you tried to run DCS with only one monitor?

 

Yes.

[SliderCDN]

I just reinstalled Windows and same problem persists. Zero errors, zero crash logs.

dcs.log

[SliderCDN]

I just spent 4 hours backing up my C drive, completely wiping it out, reinstalling Windows and DCS and nothing else on it, only to return to square one with same 2 errors as in first post. This is a DCS problem. I have other sims and games that worked just fine before and now have to patch up and fix up to make them work again.

 

@FlappieI appreciate your help, but this needs to be escalated.

dcs.log

Edited December 7, 2020 by SliderCDN

[Flappie]

I agree. Have you opened a support ticket already?

[SliderCDN]

12 hours ago, Flappie said:

I agree. Have you opened a support ticket already?

 

Yes. No replies yet.

[Flappie]

Since you're reinstalled both Windows and DCS, and you're still getting the issue, there are high chances for it to be hardware-related. I know DCS is probably the only game that crashes on your rig, but it's a very hardware-demanding game which needs much stability.

 

I'm still willing to help. Please run CPU-Z, click on "Tools" > "Save report as .HTML", and attach the resulting HTML file.

[SliderCDN]

@Flappie DCS is far from most demanding on my PC. I run P3Dv5 which has grown to 700Gb of addons and utilities, MSFS2020 which is unoptimized, but demanding. I've ran benchmarks and stress tests when problems with DCS started, all which ran for 12+ hours and no issues arose.

DESKTOP-E9Q3OMM.html

[Flappie]

Wow. I think we can say your PC is stable, indeed.

 

I know you've already tried running DCS wih default GPU frequencies. Now, I see both your CPU and RAM are overclocked (5 GHz instead of 4.2 / XMP 3200 MHz instead of JEDEC 2133). Have you already tried running DCS on default CPU and RAM JEDEC frequencies, just to see if DCS keeps crashing? If you have not, that would be an interesting test.

[SliderCDN]

I tried that, no difference.

[Flappie]

OK. Can you please produce a new dxdiag log? (HOWTO)

I'd like to now if your DCS is still getting this "BEX64" error.

Edited December 8, 2020 by Flappie

[BIGNEWY]

Hi Slider,

 

we are discussing your case internally, and we want to try and help you.

 

Could you please enable full debug logs and then attach your next crash to the thread here. 

 

Guide here

 

 

thank you

[SliderCDN]

Flappie, BIGNEWY, big thank you again for your efforts, I am in process of doing both of your instructions now.

 

@BIGNEWY The link to Autoexec file is broken, I assume due to new forum?

Edited December 8, 2020 by SliderCDN

[SliderCDN]

Here is my DxDiag. I have found an interesting thing. I've disconnected my secondary SATA SSD and two HDDs just to see. I was in a busy DCS server with 32 players, flew in F14 on and off the carrier, loaded into new plane multiple times and after 45 minutes of no issues, I exited and made the DxDiag report.

DxDiag.txt

[BIGNEWY]

New file added to post 

thanks for the heads up

[Flappie]

1 hour ago, SliderCDN said:

Here is my DxDiag. I have found an interesting thing. I've disconnected my secondary SATA SSD and two HDDs just to see. I was in a busy DCS server with 32 players, flew in F14 on and off the carrier, loaded into new plane multiple times and after 45 minutes of no issues, I exited and made the DxDiag report.

 

I'm glad you can play, at last! Thank you for the dxdiag report, and nice find!

 

I think I see were we're going. Maybe your Windows pagefile was hosted on one of your HDDs. Usually, when DCS players have this pagefile configuration, they only get stutters, the game doesn't crash. I think the crashes are probable if the HDD containing the pagefile is slow enough. Let's not conclude too quickly though.

 

I assume you want your drives back in your computer. What you can do now is plug them back in, then ensure your pagefile stays on your SSD (here's how to get here, stop after step 4). And see if DCS keeps crashing or not.

Edited December 8, 2020 by Flappie

[SliderCDN]

1 hour ago, Flappie said:

 

I'm glad you can play, at last! Thank you for the dxdiag report, and nice find!

 

I think I see were we're going. Maybe your Windows pagefile was hosted on one of your HDDs. Usually, when DCS players have this pagefile configuration, they only get stutters, the game doesn't crash. I think the crashes are probable if the HDD containing the pagefile is slow enough. Let's not conclude too quickly though.

 

I assume you want your drives back in your computer. What you can do now is plug them back in, then ensure your pagefile stays on your SSD (here's how to get here, stop after step 4). And see if DCS keeps crashing or not.

 

I don't recall having it, but I will double check to be sure. Is there an actual file I could also delete in case it was made and Windows is picking it up despite being disabled?

 

EDIT: here's what I found by default after installing Windows. I unchecked the top one and left the system manage it just for C drive. I will restart with other drives plugged in and try again, with BIGNEWY's file in place.

Edited December 9, 2020 by SliderCDN

[SliderCDN]

So I connected all my drives back, checked that page file is still on C and system managed, BIGNEWY's file in place and flew on a busy server with 30+ players for almost an hour, but now I need to sleep  

 

Here's the only log file I have.

dcs.log

[Flappie]

Good! Your DCS log indicates your pagefile is OK:

 

=== Log opened UTC 2020-12-09 02:51:08
2020-12-09 02:51:08.468 INFO    DCS: Command line: "C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\bin/DCS.exe"
2020-12-09 02:51:08.468 INFO    DCS: DCS/2.5.6.58125 (x86_64; Windows NT 10.0.19042)
2020-12-09 02:51:08.468 INFO    DCS: DCS revision: 178116
2020-12-09 02:51:08.468 INFO    DCS: Renderer revision: 21069
2020-12-09 02:51:08.468 INFO    DCS: Terrain revision: 21165
2020-12-09 02:51:08.468 INFO    DCS: CPU cores: 4, threads: 4, System RAM: 32699 MB, Pagefile: 5120 MB

 

Your full log shows the usual module error messages we all get. No error from your computer.

And we can see your game session lasted 50 minutes and ended properly:

 

2020-12-09 03:46:17.284 INFO    NET: disconnected: 0 
[...]
2020-12-09 03:46:25.265 INFO    TERRAIN: lSystem::exit()
2020-12-09 03:46:25.265 INFO    TERRAIN: lSystem::CleanScenes()
2020-12-09 03:46:31.942 INFO    DX11BACKEND: DX11Renderer::shutdown()
2020-12-09 03:46:34.128 INFO    DX11BACKEND: NVIDIA API exit OK
2020-12-09 03:46:34.128 INFO    DX11BACKEND: textures_count: 0
2020-12-09 03:46:34.128 INFO    DX11BACKEND: textures_size: 0
2020-12-09 03:46:34.128 INFO    DX11BACKEND: buffers_count: 0
2020-12-09 03:46:34.128 INFO    DX11BACKEND: buffers_size: 0
2020-12-09 03:46:34.128 INFO    DX11BACKEND: CB_count: 0
2020-12-09 03:46:34.128 INFO    DX11BACKEND: CB_size: 0
2020-12-09 03:46:34.128 INFO    DX11BACKEND: SB_count: 0
2020-12-09 03:46:34.128 INFO    DX11BACKEND: SB_size: 0
2020-12-09 03:46:34.128 INFO    DX11BACKEND: IB_count: 0
2020-12-09 03:46:34.128 INFO    DX11BACKEND: IB_size: 0
2020-12-09 03:46:34.128 INFO    DX11BACKEND: VB_count: 0
2020-12-09 03:46:34.128 INFO    DX11BACKEND: VB_size: 0
2020-12-09 03:46:34.128 INFO    DX11BACKEND: total_buffers_size: 0
2020-12-09 03:46:34.128 INFO    DX11BACKEND: total_size: 0
=== Log closed.

 

It seems you're back in the game, if I may say so. You nailed it!

I want you to know these crashes you were having are rare. I had never seen an HDD crashing DCS. No wonder we all (ED support, silverdevil and I) had a hard time working it out.

 

Enjoy the game.

[SliderCDN]

I'll keep a close eye on it and update this thread if anything comes along, which I hope it doesn't. 

 

Big thank you to you and everyone else that helped out!

[SliderCDN]

Happy New Year fellas!

 

Seems my CTDs have come back. No error popups like before, just straight CTD as soon as I load into 3D world.

dcs.log

 

No ideas, @Flappie?

Edited January 3, 2021 by SliderCDN

[Flappie]

Hi Slider, and Happy New Year!

 

Please try this, then attach your screenshot here.

[Flappie]

Hi @SliderCDN, have you solved your issue?

[SliderCDN]

Not as of yet.

 

After last update, every time I start the sim it's asking for serial numbers for every single module that exists.