Retnek Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 On 1/23/2021 at 10:19 PM, YoYo said: ... Its ok what we have now. I use Dora too and it's ok but follow by procedures and will be ok. Really? The D-9 now does 75 min with 100% thrust - not ok according to the sources. Same for the (maybe, who knows for sure?) missing warm-up time: no rough running, no power loss, no hint on problems at all. Just a sudden "bang" and the engine is dead and frozen. Imho not ok for a simulation. "Those who admire me for my 275 kills know nothing about war" Günther Rall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted January 25, 2021 ED Team Share Posted January 25, 2021 4 hours ago, Retnek said: Really? The D-9 now does 75 min with 100% thrust - not ok according to the sources. Same for the (maybe, who knows for sure?) missing warm-up time: no rough running, no power loss, no hint on problems at all. Just a sudden "bang" and the engine is dead and frozen. Imho not ok for a simulation. The sudden engine jam has been fixed internally, in that it shouldnt insta jam now, the water cooled warbirds are set to get the new cooling system after the Mossie is out. I havent seen the Dora be able to run max power for 75 mins without issue, I am looking into issues of running too low of power without plug fowling, it looks like that might not be in. 1 Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grafspee Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) 75min at 100% power, I think fuel tanks will not allow for that. Acording to DCS D-9 manual, above 7000m 3250rpm is continuous power below, it has 30min limit which is still a lot. Edited January 25, 2021 by grafspee System specs: I7 14700KF, Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite, 64GB DDR4 3600MHz, Gigabyte RTX 4090,Win 11, 48" OLED LG TV + 42" LG LED monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retnek Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 11 hours ago, grafspee said: 75min at 100% power, I think fuel tanks will not allow for that. Acording to DCS D-9 manual, above 7000m 3250rpm is continuous power below, it has 30min limit which is still a lot. Check https://forums.eagle.ru/topic/252239-fw-190-d-9-dora-engine-bug/page/3/?tab=comments#comment-4537091 for details. @NineLine: no offence intended, just a hint. It would be fine to hear a problem by the engine sound itself. And to read an advice in the manual how each kind of engine will react on ignoring the upper limits. The sudden jam is fixed and a new water-cooling system coming up: Thank you. (Meanwhile happy hunting with a fast bird) "Those who admire me for my 275 kills know nothing about war" Günther Rall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grafspee Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 (edited) 17 hours ago, Retnek said: Check https://forums.eagle.ru/topic/252239-fw-190-d-9-dora-engine-bug/page/3/?tab=comments#comment-4537091 for details. @NineLine: no offence intended, just a hint. It would be fine to hear a problem by the engine sound itself. And to read an advice in the manual how each kind of engine will react on ignoring the upper limits. The sudden jam is fixed and a new water-cooling system coming up: Thank you. (Meanwhile happy hunting with a fast bird) Ok got that. It is funny that you can run Military Power 75min, then when you fly economy mode engine blows up Still i think that engine should survive it but for next flight it would require full engine inspection Edited January 26, 2021 by grafspee System specs: I7 14700KF, Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite, 64GB DDR4 3600MHz, Gigabyte RTX 4090,Win 11, 48" OLED LG TV + 42" LG LED monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted January 30, 2021 ED Team Share Posted January 30, 2021 I think the Dora is missing plug fouling, so running a motor in economy its possible you could damage it I suppose, blowing up, I dunno. Its still a weird one as I have flown in economy a lot and not had an issue... Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
River Posted February 18, 2021 Author Share Posted February 18, 2021 On 1/30/2021 at 2:06 AM, NineLine said: I think the Dora is missing plug fouling, so running a motor in economy its possible you could damage it I suppose, blowing up, I dunno. Its still a weird one as I have flown in economy a lot and not had an issue... Fly it in MP, SoW for example. Just fly 2700 RPM, very often the Engine just stops after 10 minutes or so. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevanJ Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Can confirm- Engine randomly stops in game, It also effects the AI.. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ams999 Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 LMFAO, that is brilliant! 1 "[...] because, basically, in this day and age, if you get to the merge and no one's died - it's not good for anybody." - Keith 'Okie' Nance "Nun siegt mal schön!" - Theodor Heuss, September 1958 "Nobody has any intention of building a wall." - Walter Ulbricht, June 1961 "Russia has no plans to invade either Ukraine or any other country." - Vladimir Chizhov, Russia's ambassador to the EU, January 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grafspee Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 (edited) In short flight my engine failed. About 20min of flying with various power settings. If anyone know pls tell me what i did wrong. in A-8 i can fire wall throttle with 5min limit and fly it for 30min at least, and here i set militarily power which is labeled 30min and what, i blow engine after 5 min ?? he? https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Tn45EOfNPhUCTLKY23fNKW4dQLTURGBF/view?usp=sharing external link for track because forum allow only 5MB files. Edited April 11, 2021 by grafspee System specs: I7 14700KF, Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite, 64GB DDR4 3600MHz, Gigabyte RTX 4090,Win 11, 48" OLED LG TV + 42" LG LED monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted April 15, 2021 ED Team Share Posted April 15, 2021 I'll take a look. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted April 15, 2021 ED Team Share Posted April 15, 2021 If possible can you take a look again with 2.7, and if it happens again, send me a new track? Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grafspee Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 1 hour ago, NineLine said: If possible can you take a look again with 2.7, and if it happens again, send me a new track? Sure, set it as secondary issue, now we need to focus on 2.7 problems. I will re-test it in 2.7 soon. System specs: I7 14700KF, Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite, 64GB DDR4 3600MHz, Gigabyte RTX 4090,Win 11, 48" OLED LG TV + 42" LG LED monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevanJ Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 5 hours ago, NineLine said: If possible can you take a look again with 2.7, and if it happens again, send me a new track? Its a long one, he kills me in a fight where i use the new clouds for cover, then we're in a long running chase for about 40 minutes-ish, while i spend a long time getting some distance, and coming back poking shots off. Eventually we fly into each other as i come back to the english radar site, i restart and then chase starts again, flying into land then after i come back to the radar site after 10-15 minutes in land the engine splutter a few times, then it cuts out as i fly towards the radar from in-land, I bail then quit. Hope it helps. https://filebin.net/1iwzxvhrdqpr16r5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobel Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 (edited) Engine dies after ~80minD9 engine broke.trk D9 down after 80min.trk Edited April 16, 2021 by Hobel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amazingme Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 After 10 minutes.. the engine seized in cruising @2700rpm.. https://we.tl/t-ylrwIUwIzi (track is uploaded on wetransfer.com 33MB) 3 Specs: Asus Z97 PRO Gamer, i7 4790K@4.6GHz, 4x8GB Kingston @2400MHz 11-13-14-32, Titan X, Creative X-Fi, 128+2x250GB SSDs, VPC T50 Throttle + G940, MFG Crosswinds, TrackIR 5 w/ pro clip, JetSeat, Win10 Pro 64-bit, Oculus Rift, 27"@1920x1080 Settings:2.1.x - Textures:High Terrain:High Civ.Traffic:Off Water:High VisRan:Low Heatblur:High Shadows:High Res:1920x1080 RoC:1024 MSAA:4x AF:16x HDR:OFF DefS: ON GCI: ON DoF:Off Lens: OFF C/G:390m Trees:1500m R:max Gamma: 1.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amazingme Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Avoiding double posts.. Specs: Asus Z97 PRO Gamer, i7 4790K@4.6GHz, 4x8GB Kingston @2400MHz 11-13-14-32, Titan X, Creative X-Fi, 128+2x250GB SSDs, VPC T50 Throttle + G940, MFG Crosswinds, TrackIR 5 w/ pro clip, JetSeat, Win10 Pro 64-bit, Oculus Rift, 27"@1920x1080 Settings:2.1.x - Textures:High Terrain:High Civ.Traffic:Off Water:High VisRan:Low Heatblur:High Shadows:High Res:1920x1080 RoC:1024 MSAA:4x AF:16x HDR:OFF DefS: ON GCI: ON DoF:Off Lens: OFF C/G:390m Trees:1500m R:max Gamma: 1.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slice313 Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 (edited) I had lots of engine degrading problems just flying around for short periods of time (less than 30 minutes). I thought I was missing something but reading this post reassures my belief. I also experienced that the MW-50 inst increasing the performance of the plane, seems to be broken? -If I fly at sea level, leveled in straight line, with or without MW-50, I get the same speed, even MW-50 seems to worsen it by a tiny bit. I was wrong, not truth, without MW-50 I get 550 km/h, with MW50 600 km/h. If I dare to touch the radiator flaps, my oil temps rises beyond 130 and the engine is destroyed after 2 or 3 minutes, but that is just my fault I guess, I gotta read the manual regarding Oil temp management. Edited May 5, 2021 by Slice313 added info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExplosion Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 (edited) This is really getting worse and worse in my experience. Might be a bit of bad luck as well, but I had my engine die 3 times yesterday in the span of 2 hours while flying on SoW. I made especially sure to warm up the engine correctly and not overstress it (knowing it is prone to just die now and then). Still it just fails seemingly randomly without any warning prior. This makes the Dora close to unusable in multiplayer. Edited June 1, 2021 by MrExplosion 5 Kein Anderer als ein Jäger spürt, Den Kampf und Sieg so konzentriert. Das macht uns glücklich, stolz und froh, Der Jägerei ein Horrido! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bremspropeller Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 Just had the engine ignition thingy happen to me. I used the "take off" quick mission. Used 2700RPM all the time after take-off. 3 So ein Feuerball, JUNGE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobel Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 many here often report stalling the engine at 2700RPM, which seems to cause the error From my experience, as soon as you go below 2800RPM the probability increases a lot that the engine simply dies, so I fly in principle almost only above 2800-2900 and there are almost no more problems. which of course should not be the solution... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkk01 Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 Don’t fly MP, but was getting a lot of engine failures after circa 10 mins of SP flight, and yes, not at max settings... Seemed to be linked to overheat, so I now fly the Dora with rad shutters open - except for combat in combat, I can fight one opponent within the engine life, but a second (red pawn) always seem to result in engine failure 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBo* Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 is this still being investigated, just what is the status? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grafspee Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Looks like still in investigation phase. 1 System specs: I7 14700KF, Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite, 64GB DDR4 3600MHz, Gigabyte RTX 4090,Win 11, 48" OLED LG TV + 42" LG LED monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBo* Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 given up flying the D-9 in multi... its just too frustrating. fly for 15-30, see someone then have the engine go. used to be my favorite. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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