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You got to be kidding ED! This is just a mess, don't even know where to start.... just give us the old one back.

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I've literally been looking at this for 15 minutes and just thought: "Wow. What a mess. Why? Why? Why? Seriously, why?".   I really hate to tell, but from a professional (20 years of webdesign experi

...and we're fully in 2020s, with a layout designed for nearsighted babies who have their monitors in portrait configuration for some inexplicable reason. I hate IPS, I have to zoom it out one notch t

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The design is really geared towards mobile use, which is okay looking at many folks in general surfing mobile these days. Reading mobile on the old forums really was a pita and is way better now. (yep, it's not all bad :D)

 

It is not okay, but just unacceptable. It is possible to detect the display device type well enough my multiple parameters and then use a dedicated stylesheet for each of those if required. It was already possible ~20 years ago when I first dived into that stuff. Not making use of that which nowadays is stone age tech, is cleary just cheaping on out. And vB is a paid proprietary software, so that makes it even more unacceptable. And if things nowadays simply are just aimed at mobile usage, it's just a bloody shame, no more no less. And I haven't even touched accessibility here...

 

Also, I checked how the forum looks on my N9. It's literally like reading a newspaper through a telescope whereas it was like reading a package insert for your pills with 20/100 vision before. Neither was or is good.

 

BTW, when posting, having that automagical "here, look at the post you've just dropped" scrolling thing is just nervous and unnecessary. Especially since we simply can't tab out the reply window anymore. I've seen better GUI programming than this in DOS times. Simply don't shackle the user up and pull him across the floor. Just do not do it.


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The new forum is better on mobile but a step back on desktop.

 

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So much for the PC Master Race :(


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Please can you add the Tapatalk plug in.

 

Thank you for contacting Tapatalk! That forum does not have a working Tapatalk plugin running, hence causing the issue. We contacted the forum owner to update their plugin. Please report the same to your forum admin as requests from members are looked into more quickly. Chris Tapatalk Support

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Hi all,

 

The team are tweaking the forum, give it some time. We know change can be difficult for some, I will need to adapt also :)

 

That's gonna take a JDAM bunch of tweaking... :joystick:

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Regarding design, I have noticed the user experience vastly differs on TN monitors vs IPS/VA ones. On TN (laptops, older monitors which refuse to die) everything looks white or more white, while on IPS/VA one can suddenly discern individual shades of gray and it starts to make sense.

Then there are some functions I miss, mainly the "new posts" going for several pages, not the short extempt we get now.

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I think any new format needs some time before having people voting in such poll, there is always the initial resistance to change that will bias the results. Re-do the poll in one month or so.

 

Not sure why the change was necessary, but it's always good to update every once in a while. The view of the subforums is much clearer than before, and I'm not concerned about the theme which is indeed a bit sad at the moment, I'm sure it can be customized with time, that's just cosmetics.

 

It's nice to have the 'like' back, they were removed from the old forums at some point.

 

Multi-quotes are nice for the one who uses it. Otherwise, it can quickly become a mess of quotes of multi-quoted posts... one post per response isn't bad either, easier to follow sub-threads.

 

What I'm really struggling with, is finding back the useful subscriptions I had, and how they're working now, because it's never easy to follow topics in such a massive forum. I suppose it's just the matter of getting to know this new version.

 

That, and the way the post window is jumping up and down when we're writing into it, perhaps a reasonable default height would improve this? It's a bit small atm.


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DCS has 3 icons in FUI, those are greeish, blueish and browish, these could be the 3 base themes and it's darker versions for example, at first I'd pick the browish theme, the one that the old forum resembled, but more red-color to it to look like the icon looks, would be so cool! I got bigger ideas but I can't write myself out because I'm too busy with the new PC build right about now, oh well, keep up the good feedback people, keep thinking!

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Definitely require more detail work.

 

First, I refuse to read from a white background, even my Google, Wikipedia and YouTube is all dark themed.

 

I like the Black ED forum theme but pure black background is ugly. Would be much better to have something like very dark grey, brown or navy blue.

 

I miss the old colors. I though that was some kind of ED color code. You see colors and you connect them in mind with company and the product. Lost opportunity?

We have some colors in DCS main menu why not use the same on a website to create that kind of connection ?

 

In the meantime, instead of complaining I recommend to make your own css style for DCS Forum - maybe a small competition?

 

https://userstyles.org/

(very slow server)

 

ED would save a lot of work and complains just giving this to users - a small competition, drop some reward, make users to vote and pick best theme.

 

If you like to use dark themes I can recommend extensions for web browsers : "Dark Backgroud and Light text" or "Dark Night Mode". Those work independent from website style and can give some interesting results.

 

I like how the images are handled now - this is grate improvement, duble clicks, dragging the windows borders to change the size, etc.

 

Some screenshots how forum looks on my screen:

 

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What's the deal with these forum changes. This is about the fifth flightsim website I visit that has gone all white in the past few few months. Are all the flight sim forums using the same server/software? Worse, the admins on most of these sites don't even know where the changes are coming from.

 

Just tried the Dark and Denim themes in user settings/account and they seem to shrink the text too? WTF?


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Hi! This forum is wasting space at each and every single position, it is unclearly arranged, I don't get a quick and good overview, and I cannot change to a subforum (e.g. Viggen Bugs and Problems) when I'm in a thread which is part of the hirarchy level above. My suggestions (red: delete, yellow: move):

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What's the deal with these forum changes. This is about the fifth flightsim website I visit that has gone all white in the past few few months. Are all the flight sim forums using the same server/software? Worse, the admins on most of these sites don't even know where the changes are coming from.

 

Just tried the Dark and Denim themes in user settings/account and they seem to shrink the text too? WTF?

 

I am guessing they are all using vBulletin.

 

The default style was also very small when the site first went up - it has been improved and I am guessing that the admins will eventually change the dark and denim style sheets once they have default in a position most people will tolerate

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I am guessing they are all using vBulletin.

 

The default style was also very small when the site first went up - it has been improved and I am guessing that the admins will eventually change the dark and denim style sheets once they have default in a position most people will tolerate

 

 

Interesting, thanks for the info. Regarding the forum host, one other site that has recently changed, ORBX forums, is actually hosted by Invision. It must just be the latest trend in web design :).

 

 

FYI for anyone looking for a way to darken the screen a bit, try Dark Reader. I use Chrome browser, and I know it also work with Firefox, Safari , and Edge.

 

https://darkreader.org/

 

 

 

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Ok,

My last post was very much Alcohol fuelled!

And I was very nasty calling for heads to roll.

 

Now that I have had time to recover from my initial shock and re-ingested a fresh amount of alcohol.... is it so bad?

I will investigate tonight.

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My real IPD is 64.5mm. Prescription VROptition lenses installed.

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Quite quick and snappy actually.

Would a post activity be better next to each module, like a current activity next to the historical post number.... That way you can watch the entire forum flow on one page and quickly dive in to attack once a change is seen?


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HP pro Reverb.

Current settings:

Windows VR setting: IPD is 64.5mm, High image quality, 90Hz refresh rate.

Steam: VR SS set to 100%, motionReprojectionMode set to "motionreproduction" and Locked in at 45 Hz display,

DCS: Pixel Density 1.0, Forced IPD at 55 (perceived world size), 2 X MSAA, 0 X SSAA.

My real IPD is 64.5mm. Prescription VROptition lenses installed.

VR Driver system:

I9-9900KS 5Ghz CPU. XI Hero motherboard and 2080ti graphics card, 32 gigs Ram 3

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[/code][/code][/code][/code]200 Hz. No OC at the mo.

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Hi, this format is awful. I cannot navigate to my own subscriptions. This for me is unusable. Please revert, its a real shame as I actually enjoyed this forum.

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Get rid of this!

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I am ok with it.

But then again, I am a chopper pilot and we adapt to anything real fast.

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HP pro Reverb.

Current settings:

Windows VR setting: IPD is 64.5mm, High image quality, 90Hz refresh rate.

Steam: VR SS set to 100%, motionReprojectionMode set to "motionreproduction" and Locked in at 45 Hz display,

DCS: Pixel Density 1.0, Forced IPD at 55 (perceived world size), 2 X MSAA, 0 X SSAA.

My real IPD is 64.5mm. Prescription VROptition lenses installed.

VR Driver system:

I9-9900KS 5Ghz CPU. XI Hero motherboard and 2080ti graphics card, 32 gigs Ram 3

[code][code][code][code]

[/code][/code][/code][/code]200 Hz. No OC at the mo.

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I'm curious, what do you guys prefer, the old or the new forum?

Also: Are you mostly using the forums on a desktop or on a mobile?

 

What were they thinking?! "Uhhh, Hey guys lets Eff up the forum format; whataya say?" I think that's how it must have gone. No one can screw things up this bad accidentally.

 

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yep.

I like it, just seems to work right for me.

Once you Jet pukes get over it, I think it will sit alright with you too.... probably take a while mind.

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HP pro Reverb.

Current settings:

Windows VR setting: IPD is 64.5mm, High image quality, 90Hz refresh rate.

Steam: VR SS set to 100%, motionReprojectionMode set to "motionreproduction" and Locked in at 45 Hz display,

DCS: Pixel Density 1.0, Forced IPD at 55 (perceived world size), 2 X MSAA, 0 X SSAA.

My real IPD is 64.5mm. Prescription VROptition lenses installed.

VR Driver system:

I9-9900KS 5Ghz CPU. XI Hero motherboard and 2080ti graphics card, 32 gigs Ram 3

[code][code][code][code]

[/code][/code][/code][/code]200 Hz. No OC at the mo.

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Looks so amateurish .. forum we pick up free .. come on ! there are some good options but what we complain is the Navigation is horrible and the waste of space is terrible.. I am using the dark theme but it is seriously lacking of where about reference points..

Fly it like you stole it..

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