skypickle Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Are either of these going to be modeled? 4930K @ 4.5, 32g ram, TitanPascal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizzicato Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 (edited) Highly unlikely. ED's prerequisite for building new models is that they have access to enough in the way of appropriate documentation and SME's. The levels of classification around the F22 and F35 mean that there's not enough in the public domain to make those aircraft viable options of DCS in the near future. Edited January 19, 2021 by Pizzicato 2 i7-7700K @ 4.9Ghz | 16Gb DDR4 @ 3200Mhz | MSI Z270 Gaming M7 | MSI GeForce GTX 1080ti Gaming X | Win 10 Home | Thrustmaster Warthog | MFG Crosswind pedals | Oculus Rift S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weasel Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 This is very unlikely or better impossible as lot of information is highly classified. There isn't enough public information available for a proper F-22 or F-35 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=4c=Nikola Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 f22 Do not expect fairness. The times of chivalry and fair competition are long gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizzicato Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 f22 That's a really good point. :thumbup: 3 i7-7700K @ 4.9Ghz | 16Gb DDR4 @ 3200Mhz | MSI Z270 Gaming M7 | MSI GeForce GTX 1080ti Gaming X | Win 10 Home | Thrustmaster Warthog | MFG Crosswind pedals | Oculus Rift S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qiou87 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Oh, it's that time of the month again. f22 Just fly F-16 then F-5 in the same mission. Simple math (16+5) tells you that makes an F-21, which is very close to an F-22. :lol: Also, a pure air superiority fighter like the F-22 would be pretty boring in DCS World. Especially since current AI adversaries are already totally outgunned against the F-16/F-18. At least the F-35 is a multirole jet... 3 AMD R7 5800X3D | 64GB DDR4 3200MHz | RTX 4080S 16GB | Varjo Aero | VKB Gunfighter Pro Mk3 + STECS + pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northstar98 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) Probably not going to happen for probably the next few decades. And besides what are they going to fight? The majority of assets peak before the 90s, save for the GREENFOR JF-17, 2-3 tanks, and a few Chinese ships... Personally I'd be more interested in aircraft from the 60s - early 90s. Edited October 22, 2020 by Northstar98 3 Modules I own: F-14A/B, Mi-24P, AV-8B N/A, AJS 37, F-5E-3, MiG-21bis, F-16CM, F/A-18C, Supercarrier, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Mirage 2000C, FC3, MiG-15bis, Ka-50, A-10C (+ A-10C II), P-47D, P-51D, C-101, Yak-52, WWII Assets, CA, NS430, Hawk. Terrains I own: South Atlantic, Syria, The Channel, SoH/PG, Marianas. System: GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX, AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5200 32 GB, Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB (DCS dedicated) & 2 TB NVMe SSDs, Corsair RM850X 850 W, NZXT H7 Flow, MSI G274CV. Peripherals: VKB Gunfighter Mk.II w. MCG Pro, MFG Crosswind V3 Graphite, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skypickle Posted October 21, 2020 Author Share Posted October 21, 2020 wow...I just found that X-plane has it https://www.thresholdx.net/news/asdu35 https://www.thresholdx.net/news/f35bv2 4930K @ 4.5, 32g ram, TitanPascal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundun92 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 How accurately modeled are the systems tho? Likely not very 1 Eagle Enthusiast, Fresco Fan. Patiently waiting for the F-15E. Clicky F-15C when? HP Z400 Workstation Intel Xeon W3680 (i7-980X) OC'd to 4.0 GHz, EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SSC Gaming, 24 GB DDR3 RAM, 500GB Crucial MX500 SSD. Thrustmaster T16000M FCS HOTAS, DIY opentrack head-tracking. I upload DCS videos here https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0-7L3Z5nJ-QUX5M7Dh1pGg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 No. Specs: Win10, i5-13600KF, 32GB DDR4 RAM 3200XMP, 1 TB M2 NVMe SSD, KFA2 RTX3090, VR G2 Headset, Warthog Throttle+Saitek Pedals+MSFFB2 Joystick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harker Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 wow...I just found that X-plane has it https://www.thresholdx.net/news/asdu35 https://www.thresholdx.net/news/f35bv2 You understand that probably 95% of the systems modeling they have is guesswork though, right? There is no way in hell any real info is actually available on the public domain, for a 5th generation fighter jet that just entered active service. 2 1 The vCVW-17 is looking for Hornet and Tomcat pilots and RIOs. Join the vCVW-17 Discord. F/A-18C, F-15E, AV-8B, F-16C, JF-17, A-10C/CII, M-2000C, F-14, AH-64D, BS2, UH-1H, P-51D, Sptifire, FC3 - i9-13900K, 64GB @6400MHz RAM, 4090 Strix OC, Samsung 990 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qiou87 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 wow...I just found that X-plane has it https://www.thresholdx.net/news/asdu35 https://www.thresholdx.net/news/f35bv2 There is no control over plane performance from third parties in XP or FS. Nothing stops you from making a plane go Mach 2 at sea level without AB. They probably guess the performance of that one based on adverts and articles about it, which is basically unverifiable. ED requires third parties to have significant documentation about a plane before making it a module. This cannot happen for a new plane that is highly classified. But if all you care about is flying something that looks like it is an F35, go to this XP module or find a mod. There’s probably one with F15 avionics so you can even shoot missiles and play pretend. But it will fly nothing like the real deal. 3 AMD R7 5800X3D | 64GB DDR4 3200MHz | RTX 4080S 16GB | Varjo Aero | VKB Gunfighter Pro Mk3 + STECS + pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxDollarsAtWork Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Well on one hand the F-22 is a noughties aircraft which happens to be contemporaneous with our F/A-18 and F-16 and also happens to be out of production But on the other hand the F-35 seems about as tailored to the export market as say the F-16 and JF-17 so there is a distinct possibility for either :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northstar98 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Well on one hand the F-22 is a noughties aircraft which happens to be contemporaneous with our F/A-18 and F-16 and also happens to be out of production But on the other hand the F-35 seems about as tailored to the export market as say the F-16 and JF-17 so there is a distinct possibility for either :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: Even if that were the case, they still have absolutely nothing peer to fight, nor will they have anything peer to fight for the foreseeable future... 1 Modules I own: F-14A/B, Mi-24P, AV-8B N/A, AJS 37, F-5E-3, MiG-21bis, F-16CM, F/A-18C, Supercarrier, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Mirage 2000C, FC3, MiG-15bis, Ka-50, A-10C (+ A-10C II), P-47D, P-51D, C-101, Yak-52, WWII Assets, CA, NS430, Hawk. Terrains I own: South Atlantic, Syria, The Channel, SoH/PG, Marianas. System: GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX, AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5200 32 GB, Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB (DCS dedicated) & 2 TB NVMe SSDs, Corsair RM850X 850 W, NZXT H7 Flow, MSI G274CV. Peripherals: VKB Gunfighter Mk.II w. MCG Pro, MFG Crosswind V3 Graphite, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evoman Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Are either of these going to be modeled? I am just surprised you are even asking about this considering you joined these forums in 2016. I guess you have either not being around much or you still have not caught on to the requirements needed to develop any aircraft into a module. I recommend seeing this interview with ED to get up to date on the latest. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toga10 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 On 10/22/2020 at 12:49 AM, skypickle said: wow...I just found that X-plane has it https://www.thresholdx.net/news/asdu35 https://www.thresholdx.net/news/f35bv2 X Plane has it because its not a combat focused sim, quite alot of systems in most fast jets for xp11 arn't modeled. the purpose of fast jets in xp11 is so that civil aviation simmers can try out what its like to just fly these aircraft without learning about all of the weapon systems etc. the majority of the systems in xp11 fast jets are often just the Devs taking creative liberties to make an aircraft a little more indeapth. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon1-1 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 I want the F-4. You guys can keep your flying iPads. They're cool, but they fly you more than you fly them. The oldies are another thing entirely. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fangs Out Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 I mean, who wouldn't want to fly the world's leading distributor of MiG parts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLTeo Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 (edited) The F-22 is not even allowed to be exported (which is kind of why it's out of production in the first place), so no, not any time soon and likely never. The F-35 is not happening any time soon, and could not happen even if it were not classified, because all of its "flagship" systems like fancy datalinks, AESA, EW suite et al., are something that likely can not be implemented in the DCS engine right now. I do think it will eventually be a flagship ED product like the Viper or Hornet in, say, 15 ish years though. Too many are being built for a realistic module not to sell like hot cakes. 4 hours ago, Bravelink03 said: I mean, who wouldn't want to fly the world's leading distributor of MiG parts And yes, in the meantime we desperately need the Phantom. That nickname alone demands a DCS module. Edited January 19, 2021 by TLTeo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northstar98 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 59 minutes ago, TLTeo said: The F-22 is not even allowed to be exported (which is kind of why it's out of production in the first place), so no, not any time soon and likely never. The F-35 is not happening any time soon, and could not happen even if it were not classified, because all of its "flagship" systems like fancy datalinks, AESA, EW suite et al., are something that likely can not be implemented in the DCS engine right now. Exactly, plus they will have absolutely nothing to fight, fighting mostly against Cold War assets. 59 minutes ago, TLTeo said: I do think it will eventually be a flagship ED product like the Viper or Hornet in, say, 15 ish years though. Too many are being built for a realistic module not to sell like hot cakes. Probably, though even then it might be a stretch. 59 minutes ago, TLTeo said: And yes, in the meantime we desperately need the Phantom. That nickname alone demands a DCS module. Absolutely, and preferably in at least a USAF and USN variant. 2 Modules I own: F-14A/B, Mi-24P, AV-8B N/A, AJS 37, F-5E-3, MiG-21bis, F-16CM, F/A-18C, Supercarrier, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Mirage 2000C, FC3, MiG-15bis, Ka-50, A-10C (+ A-10C II), P-47D, P-51D, C-101, Yak-52, WWII Assets, CA, NS430, Hawk. Terrains I own: South Atlantic, Syria, The Channel, SoH/PG, Marianas. System: GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX, AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5200 32 GB, Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB (DCS dedicated) & 2 TB NVMe SSDs, Corsair RM850X 850 W, NZXT H7 Flow, MSI G274CV. Peripherals: VKB Gunfighter Mk.II w. MCG Pro, MFG Crosswind V3 Graphite, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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