R-27ER Range

[[PTF]Ali]

R27-ER has 80 miles (130km) range in real life, I have played 500 plus hours russian planes but i still think and always bugs me that the extended range series of r27 is most underpowered missile in DCS. May be drag ratio is high, Mach 4.5 speed this missile has at high altitude but still it never hit the target.

[Pöri]

R27-ER has 80 miles (130km) range in real life, I have played 500 plus hours russian planes but i still think and always bugs me that the extended range series of r27 is most underpowered missile in DCS. May be drag ratio is high, Mach 4.5 speed this missile has at high altitude but still it never hit the target.

 

 

High altitude and high speed vs high altitude high speed target!

 

 

[AeriaGloria]

They changed a few values a few patches ago, it does better then you might remember from long ago, it still needs the full CFD treatment but atleast the LUA value change is a nice band aid

[dundun92]

Its definitely underperforming but please stop quoting useless brochure values. They are typically Raero values at imparctically high speeds/altitudes. Use actual useful evidence, such as the R-27E DLZ charts:

 

[Pöri]

R 27ER missiles_data.lua

 

 

60000.0, -- дальность ракурс 180(навстречу) град, Н=10000м, V=900км/ч, м

25000.0, -- дальность ракурс 0(в догон) град, Н=10000м, V=900км/ч, м

25000.0, -- дальность ракурс 180 град, Н=1000м, V=900км/ч, м

 

R 27ET missiles_data.lua

 

58000.0, -- дальность ракурс 180(навстречу) град, Н=10000м, V=900км/ч, м.

20000.0, -- дальность ракурс 0(в догон) град, Н=10000м, V=900км/ч, м.

24000.0, -- дальность ракурс 180 град (навстречу), Н=1000м, V=900км/ч, м.

 

 

I use only in game info and not google armchair expert infos! And the pictures, you fly head on vs Mig 31 3000/h, MiG 31 no reaction the shot, the missile hit the target!

[dundun92]

That is NOT the actual capabilities of the missile, thats simply what the DLZ is programmed to show. I can edit that and change what the DLZ shows but the missile itself is unchanged.

[Pöri]

That is NOT the actual capabilities of the missile, thats simply what the DLZ is programmed to show. I can edit that and change what the DLZ shows but the missile itself is unchanged.

 

 

Ask Chizh int the Ракеты в DCS topic, DLZ is correct. Many pilot shoot non maneuvering target range and go cry to forum missile is crap.

[dundun92]

No DLZ is ever 100% correct. Period. Those numbers have nothing to do with the actual missile performance. I can set them to w/e I want and all that changes is the DLZ. IDC what the DLZ is programmed to show, all I care is what the missile is capable of. And if you look at the DLZ chart I posted, and you do some actual tests, you will find that a), the R-27 is indeed underperfoming, and b), the in game DLZ is a bit optimistic, and overestimates the RTR.

[Pöri]

No DLZ is ever 100% correct. Period. Those numbers have nothing to do with the actual missile performance. I can set them to w/e I want and all that changes is the DLZ. IDC what the DLZ is programmed to show, all I care is what the missile is capable of. And if you look at the DLZ chart I posted, and you do some actual tests, you will find that a), the R-27 is indeed underperfoming, and b), the in game DLZ is a bit optimistic, and overestimates the RTR.

 

 

DCS World = game not real life simulator. Not 100% simulating real life and best ever made simulator in the world! :thumbup:

[dundun92]

DCS World = game not real life simulator. Not 100% simulating real life and best ever made simulator in the world! :thumbup:

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[dundun92]

...yea ive wasted enough time here :doh: