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TGP image in F-16 is much worse than in other aircraft. It has low dynamic range (whites are gray, not white) and the contrast adjustment does not really adjust contrast.

 

Same mission, same distance, same targeting pod in the Hog, Hornet and Viper. In the Viper even the target cross and north arrow are dark gray while they are white in the other aircraft.

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You can try to manually play with gain control, but it will only make parts of the image even darker. Though it will help somewhat with making the tanks stand out against the background.

 

Another possible issue is that the contrast rocker (bottom right) does not adjust contrast, but something else. Instead of making "brights brighter and blacks blacker" evenly across the range, the contrast increase makes everything black except the whitest spots, which now become white. And the opposite when clicking the other way.

 

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While changing contrast on a grayscale image should work like this (if it is really a contrast adjustment):

 

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Hi all,

 

you need to adjust the brightness and contrast for the situation.

 

thanks 

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Something annoying is the cursor getting washed out as you try to change contrast and brightness settings, i thought the symbol brightness controlled the cross hair brightness and the TGP information around the outside. Messing with Symbol brightness seems to do nothing much at all.🤔

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On 2/8/2021 at 9:27 PM, BIGNEWY said:

Hi all,

 

you need to adjust the brightness and contrast for the situation.

 

thanks 

 

The contrast adjustment is broken and does not adjust contrast. You can not achieve the same TGP image quality as in other planes with the same pod. Everything is explained in the 1st post. 

 

It wasn't always like that, the original TGP implementation for F-16 worked better. It got broken in one of the updates. 

 

Also the cursor disappears when you start messing with contrast, again, check the screenshots in the first post. 


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Hey guys, I am looking into this, I do believe the way Contrast and Brightness adjustments on all the above aircraft might need looking at, especially the Viper. I did some Photoshop magic with a FLIR WHOT image and think we can tweak it some, but I need to find good reference, or as good as I can get for the real things.

 

So I know its hard, but give me a little bit of time to fully absorb myself into the issue at hand, as well, I need to see how the FLIR update will affect these things as well. Thanks!

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Hey all, just an update on this, I have reported this to have brightness and contrast to be reviewed on the F-16, A-10C and Hornet. I think they all need love as far as the controls go and how the control bar responds as well. This may have to wait until the new FLIR system is in place, but just so you know, its submitted to the team, thanks!

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