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Hey guys,

 

I put this here for anyone interested in a Benchmark for DCS, this is as close as we have so far and figured would be a good baseline for other VR users..

 

Here is the mission and I did the High CPU Test and benched it with fpsVR:

 

 

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3309507/

 

 

 

here is my Copy from fpsVR:

 

 

fpsVR Report:

App: DCS HMD: Samsung Windows Mixed Reality 800ZBA0 (90.002 Hz, IPD 66.0)

GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 (26.21.14.4614) CPU: Intel® Core i7-9700K CPU @ 3.60GHz

Delivered fps: 44.53 Duration: 4.1min.

GPU Frametimes:

Median: 17.1 ms

99th percentile: 24.9 ms

99.9th percentile: >30 ms

frametime <11.1ms(vsync): 9.7%

CPU frametime:

Median: 12.4 ms

99th percentile: 20.7 ms

99.9th percentile: >30 ms

frametime <11.1ms(vsync): 29.6%

Max. SteamVR SS: 122%

Render resolution per eye: 1600x2000(by SteamVR settings, Max.) (HMD driver recommended: 1447x1806)

 

 

 

PD in DCS is 1.0

my Steam SS is 125%

resolution is 1624x2024.

 

 

Also as a baseline set your settings like so:

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Hey guys,

 

I put this here for anyone interested in a Benchmark for DCS, this is as close as we have so far and figured would be a good baseline for other VR users..

 

Here is the mission and I did the High CPU Test and benched it with fpsVR:

 

 

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3309507/

 

 

 

here is my Copy from fpsVR:

 

 

 

 

 

Also as a baseline set your settings like so:

You might also want to share your PD setting in DCS.

 

And maybe SteamVR SS setting (don't know if you use that with a Samsung Odyssey)

System specs:

 

i7-8700K @stock speed - GTX 1080TI @ stock speed - AsRock Extreme4 Z370 - 32GB DDR4 @3GHz- HP Reverb v2 - Saitek Pro pedals - TM Warthog HOTAS - TM F/A-18 Grip - TM Cougar HOTAS (NN-Dan mod) & (throttle standalone mod) - Pointctrl & aux banks <-- must have for VR users!! - Andre's SimShaker Jetpad - Fully adjustable DIY playseat - VA+VAICOM

 

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CPU heavy run:

 

fpsVR Report:

App: DCS HMD: Pimax 5K Plus (89.999 Hz, IPD 63.0)

GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 (27.21.14.5638) CPU: Intel® Core i7-7700K CPU @ 4.20GHz

Delivered fps: 59.52 Duration: 4.6min.

GPU Frametimes:

Median: 13.2 ms

99th percentile: 17.2 ms

99.9th percentile: >30 ms

frametime <11.1ms(vsync): 3.6%

CPU frametime:

Median: 12.5 ms

99th percentile: 21.7 ms

99.9th percentile: >30 ms

frametime <11.1ms(vsync): 38.9%

Max. SteamVR SS: 42%

Render resolution per eye: 3320x2048(by SteamVR settings, Max.) (HMD driver recommended: 5120x3160)

 

https://flic.kr/p/2jLHK6M

 

DCS PD 1.0

Pimax 5k+. piTool Render Quality 1.5, maximum FoV. No FFR.

DCS settings the same as baseline, except no shadows, and I use 2x msaa.

7700K@5Ghz, 32GB 3600 CL16, 3080.

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I guess motion reprojection / Smoothing should be of, if anyone should co pare the delivered fps?

 

In this test reprojection = ON

 

fpsVR Report:

App: DCS HMD: HP Reverb VR Headset VR1000-2xxx0 (90.001 Hz, IPD 65.5)

GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti (27.21.14.5638) CPU: Intel® Core i9-9900KS CPU @ 4.00GHz

Delivered fps: 45.56 Duration: 3.8min.

GPU Frametimes:

Median: 15.6 ms

99th percentile: 21.1 ms

99.9th percentile: 22.7 ms

frametime <11.1ms(vsync): 3%

CPU frametime:

Median: 9.9 ms

99th percentile: 17.2 ms

99.9th percentile: 19.9 ms

frametime <11.1ms(vsync): 82.3%

Max. SteamVR SS: 149%

Render resolution per eye: 2692x2636(by SteamVR settings, Max.) (HMD driver recommended: 2207x2160)

 

 

As is says, SteamVR SS set to 150%(=149%) PD in DCS = 1.0

Settings: All as i use when gaiming.

 

...not CPU bond...


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Just put my 3090 Strix OC in place:

 

fpsVR Report:

App: DCS HMD: HP Reverb VR Headset VR1000-2xxx0 (90.001 Hz, IPD 65.5)

GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 (27.21.14.5709) CPU: Intel® Core i9-9900KS CPU @ 4.00GHz

Delivered fps: 72.09 Duration: 4.2min.

GPU Frametimes:

Median: 11.8 ms

99th percentile: 17.4 ms

99.9th percentile: 18.1 ms

frametime <11.1ms(vsync): 35.9%

CPU frametime:

Median: 8.3 ms

99th percentile: 14.6 ms

99.9th percentile: 18.9 ms

frametime <11.1ms(vsync): 93.5%

Max. SteamVR SS: 149%

Render resolution per eye: 2692x2636(by SteamVR settings, Max.) (HMD driver recommended: 2207x2160)

 

45.5 to 72 Fps, thats a 58% incease in frames per second compared to my las post above. Same settings, at least I tried to make sure nothing is changed( I got the Pimax 8KX one week ago, so I have changed some settings but they are back).

Yes, it was worth the cost.

 

 

 

I also did run a test before the change, to be sure that no driver or dcs updates did change things:

fpsVR Report:

App: DCS HMD: HP Reverb VR Headset VR1000-2xxx0 (90.001 Hz, IPD 65.5)

GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti (27.21.14.5709) CPU: Intel® Core i9-9900KS CPU @ 4.00GHz

Delivered fps: 45 Duration: 1.8min.

GPU Frametimes:

Median: 15.4 ms

99th percentile: 22.9 ms

99.9th percentile: >30 ms

frametime <11.1ms(vsync): 5.8%

CPU frametime:

Median: 10.4 ms

99th percentile: 18.1 ms

99.9th percentile: >30 ms

frametime <11.1ms(vsync): 66%

Max. SteamVR SS: 149%

Render resolution per eye: 2692x2636(by SteamVR settings, Max.) (HMD driver recommended: 2207x2160)

 

 

[T.M HOTAS Warthog Stick & Throttle + T.Flight pedals, HP Reverb pro, Pimax 8KX] 🙂

[DCS Mirage 2K; Huey; Spitfire Mk IX, AJS 37, F-14, F-18, FC3, A-10 Warthog II ]

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ok found

 

Just run any game or app. If the “Save History” is enabled, it will save the session (session should be atleast 15 seconds. SteamVR Home is ignored completly.) when process of game or app disconnect from SteamVR (or if “Reset Stats” is pressed). If you need run the new session during playing, use “Reset Stats”

 

now i have another problem...

when i start the mission is like if i have an engine off..

ther's a big sideslip and autopilot won't activate...

 

axis are all set, engines axis too...

i'm not an expert of su-25 and don't understand what induces the sideslip... i'm going crazy! any help?

 

i would like to benchmarck my ryzen 2700x and then swap it with a Ryzen 5800x...

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CPU heavy RUN

 

fpsVR Report:

App: DCS HMD: Samsung Windows Mixed Reality 800ZBA0 (90.002 Hz, IPD 69.9)

GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER (27.21.14.5730) CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X Eight-Core Processor

Delivered fps: 44.35 Duration: 3.3min.

GPU Frametimes:

Median: 12.2 ms

99th percentile: 18 ms

99.9th percentile: 18.9 ms

frametime <11.1ms(vsync): 10.8%

CPU frametime:

Median: 10.8 ms

99th percentile: 18.5 ms

99.9th percentile: 22.1 ms

frametime <11.1ms(vsync): 61.5%

Max. SteamVR SS: 200%

Render resolution per eye: 2048x2564(by SteamVR settings, Max.) (HMD driver recommended: 1449x1813)

 

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Excellent initiative!

 

But this sim need a real benchmark mode so badly: I cannot understand why something decent is not implemented, it really helps tuning your hardware and settings and DCS is its own beast.

 

Anyways, coming from a 4.5 ghz 6700k, now running a AMD 5800x & Evga 1080Ti sc2... it is now silky smooth. Comparing the CPU frame times to the lightning fast 5.2 ghz 9900ks results here, the AMD does pretty well.

 

I knew what the 1080 ti could do, but I was wondering if the AMD 5800x (no OC, no PBO, 32MB 3800mhz CL16 16 16 32) was a good choice. Seems like it really is!

 

Note, I really did my best to record only looking ahead, without any head movement.

 

fpsVR Report:

App: DCS HMD: Samsung Windows Mixed Reality 800ZBA0 (90.002 Hz, IPD 66.0)

GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti (27.21.14.5638) CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 8-Core Processor

Delivered fps: 44.42 Duration: 0.4min.

GPU Frametimes:

Median: 16.9 ms

99th percentile: 21.2 ms

99.9th percentile: 22.3 ms

frametime <11.1ms(vsync): 0%

CPU frametime:

Median: 10 ms

99th percentile: 17.7 ms

99.9th percentile: 18.9 ms

frametime <11.1ms(vsync): 87.4%

Max. SteamVR SS: 180%

Render resolution per eye: 1940x2432(by SteamVR settings, Max.) (HMD driver recommended: 1447x1813)

 

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I have problems with the autopilot, many time i perform the test the plane steers away from the action path...

 

any idea how to fix it?

 

Do you press A for autopilot ? Should activate two lights on the left lower side of the instrument panel if I dont remeber it wrong.

[T.M HOTAS Warthog Stick & Throttle + T.Flight pedals, HP Reverb pro, Pimax 8KX] 🙂

[DCS Mirage 2K; Huey; Spitfire Mk IX, AJS 37, F-14, F-18, FC3, A-10 Warthog II ]

i9 9900KS@5.2/32Gb@3200/ ASUS ROG STRIX RTX3090 OC, ASUS STRIX Z390-F , 2Tb m2 NVMe

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Gunnars would you mind writing up a quick synopsis of your thoughts on the Pimax 8KX? Curious as to your impressions.

 

I will, had to little time left.

Be back tomorrow.

 

 

[T.M HOTAS Warthog Stick & Throttle + T.Flight pedals, HP Reverb pro, Pimax 8KX] 🙂

[DCS Mirage 2K; Huey; Spitfire Mk IX, AJS 37, F-14, F-18, FC3, A-10 Warthog II ]

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Gunnars would you mind writing up a quick synopsis of your thoughts on the Pimax 8KX? Curious as to your impressions.

 

I am a bit split on the Pimax.

FOV is great. Performance for me with 3090 is good enough. Assetto corsa is magic with fantastic feeling of speed(as its also is in DCS at low level.).

 

I havent got the base stations I ordered at the same time as the 8KX(thats really Bad from Pimax) and DCS is a bit off to play in 3DOF. So I have done a few testing flights but not that much yet, maybe a couple of hours. Need the base stations :mad:

 

What I didnt know when ordering the 8KX was that Pimax use lenses that need ones eye to focus quite narrow to see sharp. All other optical equipment in the world is made to use ones "far distance" seight.

The 8KX focal distance is somwhere between 0,5 and 1m, I think. If you are near seighted or young enough to see sharp at 0.5m you can handöe this. At least for a while. If you can se sharp at 0.5m but the eyes struggle to bend the lens you will get eyestrain after a while.

 

A lot of people is writning about eyestrain and I think a very big portion of they actually have problem keeping the eye sharp at this short focal distance.

On Pimax own forum one can read that this have been known by some Pimax users and they have tried to get Pimax to tell them the exakt focal distance, but Pimax do not answer tihs. I did write a post about needing to now but I got the answer that "we have asked but Pimax wont tell us".

Most people in forums are believing that it is the IPD thats the problem and they continue to tune IPD.

 

So this means, as Im 53 and have gotten presbiopia(aging eyes with a lens getting rigider) I cannot see sharp in the 8KX. I am a Airforce pilot with still 20/20 or better seight at distance but I dont se sharp at distance closer than 1m. I also have a civilian ATPL with medical class 1 with the limitation near visual lenses(means I need to bring reading glasses but no glasses for the far distance seight).

I see the picture in my Reverb very sharp and also the Oculus Rift.

 

But I can not see the picture in 8KX sharp at all. I have a initial solution by using reading glasses and I plan to go to the optician and get perscription glasses that make me see sharp at the pimax distance(but I would need to know this to get it right).

Glasses somtimes cause shine from the light inside, and this is not ideal but I think I can live with this.

 

I feel that colors are much better than Reverb G1, but I think reverb is a little sharper in the sweet spot.

 

The standard speakers built in into the 8KX is the worst crap ever seen. Supposed to send the sound from the speaker above the ear but its mostly not heard at all.

 

I recommend anyone that plan to get 8KX (or probably any Pimax) to print a paper with small size letters and hold it at 0.5m. If you cannot see that sharp you might run into problems. If you are near seighted = congratiolations, get pimax.

I had two friends on visit to make sure I didnt understand this wrong, both nearseighted and use glasses for this. Both was very happy because they vould see sharp in 8KX but they can not in my Reverb.

 

[T.M HOTAS Warthog Stick & Throttle + T.Flight pedals, HP Reverb pro, Pimax 8KX] 🙂

[DCS Mirage 2K; Huey; Spitfire Mk IX, AJS 37, F-14, F-18, FC3, A-10 Warthog II ]

i9 9900KS@5.2/32Gb@3200/ ASUS ROG STRIX RTX3090 OC, ASUS STRIX Z390-F , 2Tb m2 NVMe

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Speaking of which, what do the "new" settings on the DCS page after MSAA do?

  • Depth of field
  • Lens Effects
  • Motion Blur
  • SSAA
  • SSLR

Are any of these applicable to VR and if so what effects do they have on both the visual scene as well as performance? I see most people leave these turned off, so wasn't sure it was because they are N/A for VR or if they crushed the performance of DCS with them on.

System HW: i9-9900K @5ghz, MSI 11GB RTX-2080-Ti Trio, G-Skill 32GB RAM, Reverb HMD, Steam VR, TM Warthog Hotas Stick & Throttle, TM F/A-18 Stick grip add-on, TM TFRP pedals. SW: 2.5.6 OB

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On 10/30/2020 at 2:59 PM, Gunnars Driver said:

Just put my 3090 Strix OC in place:

 

 

 

45.5 to 72 Fps, thats a 58% incease in frames per second compared to my las post above. Same settings, at least I tried to make sure nothing is changed( I got the Pimax 8KX one week ago, so I have changed some settings but they are back).

Yes, it was worth the cost.

 

 

 

I also did run a test before the change, to be sure that no driver or dcs updates did change things:

 

 

 

Do you maybe have the DCS in game settings for this test? I have both, the 3090 and the 6900 at home and would like to compare! 

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