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There are already two trainer jets pretty similar to this one in DCS World. A jet trainer with glass cockpit and HUD would add something new to this sim. A reason to buy this plane even if you already have the C-101 and/or the L-39.

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The C or CD version are not only a simple avionics upgrade but it is a totally different aircraft with several difference on 3D models and systems.

 

Yes, it is true, in DCS World there are already two similar traininers (C-101 and L-39), as indeed there are already several multirole aircrafts with similar weapon capabilities and performances, but this cannot stop the production of modules.

 

Our choose to make the MB-339A/PAN versions as first commercial project is due to for two main reasons:

  1. huge quantitly of unclassified documentation to make a module with a excellent level of simulation
  2. it is not an extreme complex aircraft which allows us improve our skills in order to make more complex aircrafts for the future.

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Yes, it is true, in DCS World there are already two similar traininers (C-101 and L-39), as indeed there are already several multirole aircrafts with similar weapon capabilities and performances, but this cannot stop the production of modules.

 

 

Well, It's true that the F/A-18, the F-16 and the JF-17 are pretty similar, but it's true that most of the people find more "sexy" those kind of planes than the C-101 and the MB-339. I think most of the people would like to find time to learn and fly several fighter-bombers, but would not several trainers, I´m afraid.

 

My case: I like a lot the free MB-339. I think it´s a brilliant free mod. And I'm sure that you are going to do a great job with it as a payware. But I already own the C-101 and the L-39. Well, the L-39 is a ex-soviet plane, different avionics, weapons and systems... but the C-101 is almost the same plane from a simmer's point of view (not talking about real life, obviously). I don't think I´m going to buy the MB-339 if doesn't gives me something different, like modern avionics, for example.

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I think most of the people would like to find time to learn and fly several fighter-bombers, but would not several trainers, I´m afraid.

Certainly the glamour-fighters are popular. However, to paraphrase from the helicopter community... "most DCS helicopter pilots will have all DCS helicopters".

 

And, although smaller, the "trainer/acrobatics" community will do the same. I have got all trainer aircraft (L39,Yak52,TF51D,C101,Hawk) and will get others too. But I really like trainers and light-attack-aircraft. And those others that I know of similar mind, have done the same. :)

 

 

I don't think I´m going to buy the MB-339 if doesn't gives me something different ...

Depends what you're looking for, sure. It probably won't be for everyone. I didn't buy the F-16 or JF-17 because they offered nothing new over the F/A18 and AV8B. But I know lots of people would scream sacrilege at me for that! On the other hand, I have both the FW190D9 and FW190A8... even though others think "meh, the A8 is worse version of the same plane, why bother?".

 

For those who really appreciate the training aircraft for what they offer, there will be enough of a difference from the others to warrant the purchase. If not, the free mod is still there.

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Certainly the glamour-fighters are popular. However, to paraphrase from the helicopter community... "most DCS helicopter pilots will have all DCS helicopters".

 

And, although smaller, the "trainer/acrobatics" community will do the same. I have got all trainer aircraft (L39,Yak52,TF51D,C101,Hawk) and will get others too. But I really like trainers and light-attack-aircraft. And those others that I know of similar mind, have done the same. :)

 

 

 

Depends what you're looking for, sure. It probably won't be for everyone. I didn't buy the F-16 or JF-17 because they offered nothing new over the F/A18 and AV8B. But I know lots of people would scream sacrilege at me for that! On the other hand, I have both the FW190D9 and FW190A8... even though others think "meh, the A8 is worse version of the same plane, why bother?".

 

For those who really appreciate the training aircraft for what they offer, there will be enough of a difference from the others to warrant the purchase. If not, the free mod is still there.

 

Hahaha, this is "wish list" and we are trying to convince those guys to make the "C" model after the A/PAN. If you are so into trainers, why are you trying to sabotage it? :lol::lol::lol: :doh: You should be saying to the guys of IndiaFoxEcho "Yes, yes, you make it, please" :thumbup:

 

Anyway, seriously, the announcement of a fighter-bomber is the "train of hype" at full speed for 99% of simmers, but another trainer is just "meh, it's OK" for most of the people. Since there are already 2 of them, they should try to give something different. Modern avionics could be one, a campaign of training as realistic as possible made by an actual pilot (I think there are two of them into this project) with the plane could be another...

 

Are there people that will buy everything? Yes, of course. But not everybody has the money to buy every single module, and not everybody has the time to learn the plane's systems and fly it. Most of us already have several modules collecting dust into our virtual hangars.

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We have

 

- the F/A-18C = Blue Angles (ok they used the A model and now switching to the E model, but it's relatively close :smilewink:)

 

- F-16C = Thunderbirds

 

- MBB339 = Frecce Tricolori

 

- XXXX = Red Arrows

 

- Christen Eagle

 

- Edge 540

 

- and maybe soon even an Extra 330

 

All planes are nice for aerobatics and the Hawk is really missing here, I think.

 

Maybe someone will make a new Hawk again? It's also not too complex to make.

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Well, It's true that the F/A-18, the F-16 and the JF-17 are pretty similar, but it's true that most of the people find more "sexy" those kind of planes than the C-101 and the MB-339. I think most of the people would like to find time to learn and fly several fighter-bombers, but would not several trainers, I´m afraid.

 

 

 

My case: I like a lot the free MB-339. I think it´s a brilliant free mod. And I'm sure that you are going to do a great job with it as a payware. But I already own the C-101 and the L-39. Well, the L-39 is a ex-soviet plane, different avionics, weapons and systems... but the C-101 is almost the same plane from a simmer's point of view (not talking about real life, obviously). I don't think I´m going to buy the MB-339 if doesn't gives me something different, like modern avionics, for example.

The beauty of trainers and "simple" aircraft is the availability of huge quantity of unclassified docs which allow the developer to reproduce a more faithful simulation.

 

However, the MB339 is our first project that will help us understand how to develop high quality addon for DCS World, then we will use our experience to work on more interesting projects.

 

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Well, It's true that the F/A-18, the F-16 and the JF-17 are pretty similar, but it's true that most of the people find more "sexy" those kind of planes than the C-101 and the MB-339. I think most of the people would like to find time to learn and fly several fighter-bombers, but would not several trainers, I´m afraid.

 

My case: I like a lot the free MB-339. I think it´s a brilliant free mod. And I'm sure that you are going to do a great job with it as a payware. But I already own the C-101 and the L-39. Well, the L-39 is a ex-soviet plane, different avionics, weapons and systems... but the C-101 is almost the same plane from a simmer's point of view (not talking about real life, obviously). I don't think I´m going to buy the MB-339 if doesn't gives me something different, like modern avionics, for example.

 

And then again the MB 339 was used in a LOT of air forces around the world. So My case and I am sure of lots of potential buyers is: I will buy whatever my air force did use realistically over Any other trainer Any day of the week and twice on Sundays, even if it less capable, or i happen to have the other two trainers... and trust me the Aermacchi was sold to a LOT of air forces around the world and it is still used...

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The beauty of trainers and "simple" aircraft is the availability of huge quantity of unclassified docs which allow the developer to reproduce a more faithful simulation.

 

However, the MB339 is our first project that will help us understand how to develop high quality addon for DCS World, then we will use our experience to work on more interesting projects.

 

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I enjoy trainers and will absolutely be buying the module after all the enjoyment I got out of the free mod. I also look forward to your future work:thumbup:

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