[result] rtx 3080 for VR

[Mainstay]

This sound worrying when it becomes more clear the engine of DCS is at its limit.

[Csgo GE oh yeah]

Well, it will be many years before anything changes in that regard right ?

Haven't they quite recently overhauled the engine already ?

[Krupi]

Well they are moving to Vulkan, the question is when it will be implemented.

 

Hopefully next year.

[SmartWeapon]

Looking forward to Vulkan. DCS will be amazing once you get a steady 90fps/hz on a high resolution VR headset like the G2 reverb. At that point, who needs the real world anymore? :P

[Harlikwin]

Looking forward to Vulkan. DCS will be amazing once you get a steady 90fps/hz on a high resolution VR headset like the G2 reverb. At that point, who needs the real world anymore? :P

 

Dont get your hopes up. Vulkan might be able to give some boost in VR, but its not gonna be magic. I'd expect 25-30% improvement in VR at best. Really DCS will benefit probably the most from multicoring some "new" features as they are added in so it won't further bog down the main threads.

[eatthis]

Well they are moving to Vulkan, the question is when it will be implemented.

 

Hopefully next year.

 

2 weeks

[hansangb]

Looking forward to Vulkan. DCS will be amazing once you get a steady 90fps/hz on a high resolution VR headset like the G2 reverb. At that point, who needs the real world anymore? :P

 

 

45 for me is actually quite good. 90 would be better, of course.

 

The promise of vulkan for me is the mgpu capability. Where maybe, SLI like function could be had for VR.

[Harlikwin]

2 weeks

 

I mean its been more than 2 years since they announced it, I bet its at least 1-2 more.

[Expert]

2 weeks

do you mean that vulkan will be available in two weeks?

[hansangb]

do you mean that vulkan will be available in two weeks?

 

No, the "two weeks" is a running joke.

 

Wags announced some of the work was done for Vulkan, but that all the shaders needed to be touched.

 

So it's probably next year the earliest? That's a SWAG on my part though.

[Adam]

No, the "two weeks" is a running joke.

 

Wags announced some of the work was done for Vulkan, but that all the shaders needed to be touched.

 

So it's probably next year the earliest? That's a SWAG on my part though.

 

Reminds me of this... :)

 

 

[stormrider]

I really have big doubts that they will really implement vulkan anytime in the future. She already hinted that "the code is tough". They might just drop it altogether in hopes that hardware brute force alone will solve their core problem. They "were" supposed to be working on Vulkan since 2017, although very little or anything is known about that. The bottomline is that it might just be that they haven't even started it yet.

[hansangb]

Reminds me of this... :)

 

 

 

 

If only ED developers could work in Ludicrous Speed!:thumbup:

[hansangb]

I really have big doubts that they will really implement vulkan anytime in the future. She already hinted that "the code is tough". They might just drop it altogether in hopes that hardware brute force alone will solve their core problem. They "were" supposed to be working on Vulkan since 2017, although very little or anything is known about that. The bottomline is that it might just be that they haven't even started it yet.

 

 

And yet the company owner publicly stated that improving the core is top priority. So I'm guessing it's a top priority until proven otherwise.

[Thinder]

And yet the company owner publicly stated that improving the core is top priority. So I'm guessing it's a top priority until proven otherwise.

 

 

Agreed, I keep repeating this but E.D are not a large team and they already have put a magnificent work together, so credit to them and wait and see...

 

With the new generation of CPU and GPUs around the corner, if we get a better (VR oriented) engine it will be all benefits, they know it is the best way to get players to come and stay with them.

 

 

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[Expert]

No, the "two weeks" is a running joke.

Wags announced some of the work was done for Vulkan, but that all the shaders needed to be touched.

So it's probably next year the earliest? That's a SWAG on my part though.

 

You mean something like february/march 2021?

[speed-of-heat]

Nobody really knows, the speculation is at best... not actually helpful

[hansangb]

LOL. Yes, that's why I didn't preface 2021 with 1Q, 2Q, 1H, 2H etc. :)

[Tomsk]

Thank you for this thread. The CPU graph in the multiplayer section says it all (around 12:15 in the vid). No amount of GPU upgrades will ever make DCS run well in VR:

 

Exactly this. I too run DCS in VR (HP Reverb, GTX 1080, 8700K). My frame rates have gotten worse and worse over time with new patches. I used to get solid 45fps, but since recent patches I'm lucky to get 35fps. What's more as far as I can tell the entire thing is hopelessy CPU limited. I can tell this because as soon as I high "pause" (so it's still rendering but not running the simulation) my frame rate shoots up.

 

It's so incredibly frustrating. All I want is a solid framerate at a good resolution for VR, I don't care how bad it looks just let me see clearly and have a smooth experience. I used to enjoy playing the MBot DCE campaigns but now it's hopelessly slow, DCS just can't cope with having that many units in a mission. I'm not convinced any amount of upgrades will fix this, and it seems to be getting worse over time. This is the single biggest thing holding me back in DCS, and honestly it really makes me wonder how much extra I want to invest in the platform right now.

Edited October 12, 2020 by Tomsk

[imacken]

What's more as far as I can tell the entire thing is hopelessy CPU limited.

 

:music_whistling:

[Pride37]

Exactly this. I too run DCS in VR (HP Reverb, GTX 1080, 8700K). My frame rates have gotten worse and worse over time with new patches. I used to get solid 45fps, but since recent patches I'm lucky to get 35fps. What's more as far as I can tell the entire thing is hopelessy CPU limited. I can tell this because as soon as I high "pause" (so it's still rendering but not running the simulation) my frame rate shoots up.

 

It's so incredibly frustrating. All I want is a solid framerate at a good resolution for VR, I don't care how bad it looks just let me see clearly and have a smooth experience. I used to enjoy playing the MBot DCE campaigns but now it's hopelessly slow, DCS just can't cope with having that many units in a mission. I'm not convinced any amount of upgrades will fix this, and it seems to be getting worse over time. This is the single biggest thing holding me back in DCS, and honestly it really makes me wonder how much extra I want to invest in the platform right now.

 

Eeer, I see in you pic GPU MEM 9,7/10GB... Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the 1080 only have 8GB normally??

To return to the topic, I'm with you on that, with 2080ti and an Oculus Rift S, I struggle a bit to get both eye candy and smoothness all the time (Nellis with other aircrafts, Syria above populated area...) and I also noticed the game was perfectly smooth when paused. I have a Reverb G2 incoming, I hope it will not get worse (some reported performance increase compared to Rift/Rift S, so I have hope!)

 

Edit: Oh sorry, I just noticed it was not your pic, but MPK's one...!

Edited October 12, 2020 by Pride37

[ibotyson]

Heyy Guys

 

i hope someone can help me. I get bad stutters in DCS. With every stutter the sound lags too. I noticed that the cpu utilization drops with every stutter. No difference between singleplayer or multiplayer. I tried to lower all settings but no difference in stutters.

I disabled hotplug and game dvr.

 

I play only in VR and with the VR preset settings i got 80fps locked for my rift-s with no ASW.

 

My System:

Zotac RTX 3080

Ryzen 3700x

32gb RAM 2400MHz.

NVMe 1Tb

 

thank you

[hansangb]

Heyy Guys

 

i hope someone can help me. I get bad stutters in DCS. With every stutter the sound lags too. I noticed that the cpu utilization drops with every stutter. No difference between singleplayer or multiplayer. I tried to lower all settings but no difference in stutters.

I disabled hotplug and game dvr.

 

I play only in VR and with the VR preset settings i got 80fps locked for my rift-s with no ASW.

 

My System:

Zotac RTX 3080

Ryzen 3700x

32gb RAM 2400MHz.

NVMe 1Tb

 

thank you

 

If you go to the the VR thread, you'll likely get a better answer. And in that VR group, there are threads for various HMD (goggle) manufacturers. Be sure to specify which VR you're using.

 

Follow this trail:

 

ED Forums » English » DCS World Topics » Input and Output » Virtual Reality

 

 

[ibotyson]

thank you

[Thinder]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the 1080 only have 8GB normally??

 

Depends on the model...

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/evga-gtx-1080-ti-sc2-w-icx-cooler.b4349

 

 

Heyy Guys

 

i hope someone can help me. I get bad stutters in DCS. With every stutter the sound lags too. I noticed that the cpu utilization drops with every stutter. No difference between singleplayer or multiplayer. I tried to lower all settings but no difference in stutters.

I disabled hotplug and game dvr.

 

I play only in VR and with the VR preset settings i got 80fps locked for my rift-s with no ASW.

 

My System:

Zotac RTX 3080

Ryzen 3700x

32gb RAM 2400MHz.

NVMe 1Tb

 

thank you

 

It is possible that the Ryzen 3700X is too weak for your GPU which could result in a bottleneck at higher resolution (4K), more to the point, your RAM is running too slow.

 

 

 

 

 

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Edited October 15, 2020 by Thinder