[result] rtx 3080 for VR

[simon3554]

My friend you have your preload radius on 100%, which is choking your ram...

This is what causes your stuttering. For dcs you need at least 32gb.

Also you have your visib range and water on high which completely kills vr performance. put your visib range on medium (so you can still see airfields) and water on low or medium.

 

I can get smooth 30 fps reprojection on Growling Sidewinders with my rtx 2060. On a higher resolution HMD (1440px1440p WMR headset). And 60 fps on more optimized multiplayer servers.

 

You can do this too :)

[cordite]

Looks like he has 32GB of ram.

[David OC]

I have upgraded my whole rig just for DCS and it still sucks. I know your feeling. I thought it was all about my rig was not good enough, until I got that FPSVR plugin recently in steam. Then I finally figured it out it was DCS’ game engine problem. As you can see the CPU frametime is bad and those bars under cpu graph is cpu utilization of each core. Only three tall bars in the physical core.

 

At this time I have basically gave up.

 

Yes ED is going to update the engine and this should help with VR. This will take some time tho, sims are some of the hardest things to do, so many things going on, bullet trajectory and hits tatectory need to be synced etc.

 

DCS WAS not build from the ground up for VR use, like the little tiny games in the VR stores. DCS is the hardest things you can do in VR today, it's also the most amazing.

 

Run msi afterburner perhaps.

[The_Nephilim]

TL;DR: NO DIFFERENCE

 

 

Your cpu will still be the biggest bottleneck since DCS cannot utilize all of your cores.

No need to break your bank to buy one until ED decided to implement the new engine.

If you really want a difference, buy a cpu with 90000GHz clock speed. 3 Physical cores without hyperthreading is enough since DCS won't utilize more than that.

 

 

Let's not talk about my landing. I am rushed to finish this kek.

 

Spec:

cpu: i7 8700k @ 4.9Ghz

memory: DDR4 3200MHz 16GBx2

graphics card: ZOTAC GeForce RTX 3080 10GB Trinity (Previously 1080ti with watercooling)

 

 

 

OK I tried the F18 free flight mission and was getting around the same as you with average FPS at 61.7FPS when I landed.. I only have a 1080GTX I am finding it hard to beleive I am faring as well as a 3080RTX... I set my setttings as yours was so all of that was the same I even had mirrors on..

 

Have your stressed test your PC with Furmark and a line pack test? Also which nVidia driver are you using? I only have 1 gen ahead of your CPU so that should not make that much of a difference but I noticed in your FPS VR CPU reading was not all in the green as mine was under 11.0 most of the time your was a bit orange?

 

Hvae you tried a DDU unistall of the video drivers and a fresh reinstall of video drivers?? anytime you put in a new card it is best to wipe out the old drivers and reinstall and remove with DDU when installing a new card.. Perhaps that is your issue as I can not believe we are getting the Same FPS Average..

Edited September 21, 2020 by The_Nephilim

[Cab]

Isn't there a demonstrated improvement going from a 1080 Ti to a 2080 Ti? If so, how can there be no improvement going from a 1080 Ti to a 3080?

[The_Nephilim]

Isn't there a demonstrated improvement going from a 1080 Ti to a 2080 Ti? If so, how can there be no improvement going from a 1080 Ti to a 3080?

 

 

That is what I am trying to determine..

[hansangb]

Isn't there a demonstrated improvement going from a 1080 Ti to a 2080 Ti? If so, how can there be no improvement going from a 1080 Ti to a 3080?

 

 

Yes, I had a much better experience from 1080Ti to 2080Ti. At the time, I was on 8700K running at 5.1GHz (delid so temp was pretty low). My 1080Ti was AIO so I boosted the speed just a tiny bit, nothing to write home about. And 2080Ti was till better.

[hansangb]

OG vive. 2880 x 1600 pixels combined

 

 

It would help if you told use what PD /SS you are using. In the VR thread, someone was having a horrible time with VR only to find out that they were SS and PD'ing (is that a word?)

 

Also, the good news is that if you were to pick up Reverb, you don't have to SS/PD and you'll have no issues reading the cockpit. As G2 reverb comes out, I imagine you'll be able to pickup G1 at a cheap price.

[Adam]

Thanks for showing us those results.

 

This may be a silly question and I apologise in advance if it is - but do you get the same results when not recording?

 

(I'm not sure what recording software you're using, or what black maging you're using to even get a flat image like that in VR and record the 'VR' image as opposed to a desktop image)... but I recently found out that even TacView recording was enough to do significant damage to graphic performance and was just wondering if whatever recording software you're using gives a different result, or similar when you have it disabled?

[Mud]

Hvae you tried a DDU unistall of the video drivers and a fresh reinstall of video drivers?? anytime you put in a new card it is best to wipe out the old drivers and reinstall and remove with DDU when installing a new card.. Perhaps that is your issue as I can not believe we are getting the Same FPS Average..

 

This! I had a friend who put in a new card some months ago. His framerate was worse in non-VR than mine was in VR with a 1070. I asked him what card he has and saw it should have been faster than mine. Told him to do a driver cleanup and reinstall the driver.

 

He went from 25fps to well over 60fps after doing that!

 

Defenately worth a shot!

 

Mud

[speed-of-heat]

TL;DR: NO DIFFERENCE

 

 

Your cpu will still be the biggest bottleneck since DCS cannot utilize all of your cores.

No need to break your bank to buy one until ED decided to implement the new engine.

If you really want a difference, buy a cpu with 90000GHz clock speed. 3 Physical cores without hyperthreading is enough since DCS won't utilize more than that.

 

 

Let's not talk about my landing. I am rushed to finish this kek.

 

Spec:

cpu: i7 8700k @ 4.9Ghz

memory: DDR4 3200MHz 16GBx2

graphics card: ZOTAC GeForce RTX 3080 10GB Trinity (Previously 1080ti with watercooling)

OG vive

steamvr supersampling 1.5

 

 

 

I dont understand why your CPU frametime is so ... Huge ...

[Expert]

added spec.

I am now very disappointed... If ED won't update their engine, I think my coming reverb G2 will be useless too

+1.

We already know that the new cards have an average of 25/30%(if we're lucky) more performance without dlss/rtx, with dlss they can reach double compared to the same range 2080-3080/2080TI-3090

So stop saying it does "twice" the performance because it's not true.

 

As dg6546 says, if ED doesn't do a professional job in the code forget about improvements.

The sim has a painful optimization, embarrassing for the current level of graphics.

Stop buying modules and ask to pay for a new core in DCS 3.0.

I know it's unfair, it would be an incorrect policy change but I'm tired of having to wait so long for an updated platform.

I'm getting bored of having a thousand thousand modules and not an ecosystem to be able to fully exploit them.

ED must realize that VR is the future.

Edited September 21, 2020 by Expert

[Cibit]

I run a lot of settings that the opening poster has but I have 2xMSAA Civ traffic low,all sliders to the right and have better visuals than the test video. Great you have a 3080 I am jealous but some thing is wrong. It is plugged in and your not running on motherboard graphics? thats been done before :)

I would make sure you have no driver issues, BIOS up to date etc. You have a big responsability as the owner of new tech to work it out and keep us informed

Thanks

[Cibit]

+1.

 

I know it's unfair, it would be an incorrect policy change but I'm tired of having to wait so long for an updated platform.

I'm getting bored of having a thousand thousand modules and not an ecosystem to be able to fully exploit them.

ED must realize that VR is the future.

 

LMAO, we just got an updated engine, its a marathon not a sprint as they say.

[speed-of-heat]

I run a lot of settings that the opening poster has but I have 2xMSAA Civ traffic low,all sliders to the right and have better visuals than the test video. Great you have a 3080 I am jealous but some thing is wrong. It is plugged in and your not running on motherboard graphics? thats been done before :)

I would make sure you have no driver issues, BIOS up to date etc. You have a big responsability as the owner of new tech to work it out and keep us informed

Thanks

 

yep this... i really dont understand whats hogging that CPU and GPU that bad

[Leaderface]

+1.

We already know that the new cards have an average of 25/30%(if we're lucky) more performance without dlss/rtx, with dlss they can reach double compared to the same range 2080-3080/2080TI-3090

So stop saying it does "twice" the performance because it's not true.

 

As dg6546 says, if ED doesn't do a professional job in the code forget about improvements.

The sim has a painful optimization, embarrassing for the current level of graphics.

Stop buying modules and ask to pay for a new core in DCS 3.0.

I know it's unfair, it would be an incorrect policy change but I'm tired of having to wait so long for an updated platform.

I'm getting bored of having a thousand thousand modules and not an ecosystem to be able to fully exploit them.

ED must realize that VR is the future.

+1

I´ve said that before too: VR is the way performance in DCS have to be measured from now onto the future.

[Mars Exulte]

+1.

We already know that the new cards have an average of 25/30%(if we're lucky) more performance without dlss/rtx, with dlss they can reach double compared to the same range 2080-3080/2080TI-3090

So stop saying it does "twice" the performance because it's not true.

 

As dg6546 says, if ED doesn't do a professional job in the code forget about improvements.

The sim has a painful optimization, embarrassing for the current level of graphics.

Stop buying modules and ask to pay for a new core in DCS 3.0.

I know it's unfair, it would be an incorrect policy change but I'm tired of having to wait so long for an updated platform.

I'm getting bored of having a thousand thousand modules and not an ecosystem to be able to fully exploit them.

ED must realize that VR is the future.

 

What's ''the future'' is irrelevant in a game engine with ten to fifteen year old roots. It's also not something that can be done cheaply or overnight, it's a years long process, effectively starting over as we've also seen with Vulkan taking years to implement.

 

You're tired of having to ''wait so long'' regarding a technology that barely existed 1-2 years ago and remains a very small segment? Lol ''Painful optimisation''? It works just fine in 2d, which is what it was designed to do, barring the MMO-lite servers people trying to cram down the game's throat.

[David OC]

They are working on it. So is the mega dollar MS and their new sim and would like to see how it runs (When Done).

 

The reason would "generally" be not for us but for ED mil clients with $ that want it for VR training.

 

Embarrassing compared to what please? (That's as big [sacle], detail, AI as DCS is)

 

Embarrassing post really. Pay for upgraded core? Small drop in ED's bucket compared to contracts that pay for these updates.

Edited September 21, 2020 by David OC

[Dudikoff]

+1.

We already know that the new cards have an average of 25/30%(if we're lucky) more performance without dlss/rtx, with dlss they can reach double compared to the same range 2080-3080/2080TI-3090

So stop saying it does "twice" the performance because it's not true.

 

According to all of the reviews, the 3080 offers at least an 80% improvement on the performance of the 1080Ti at 4K, sometimes much more (depending on the game).

 

The OP is using the original Vive with a very low resolution where CPU scaling plays a much bigger role.

 

There's still a possibility that something is not correctly setup on his system (e.g. drivers), but in any case if he had a HP Reverb instead, the improvement gains would have been much more significant.

[dg6546]

Getting all the advices from above, I have made some changes and it seems improved. But my cpu is still chocking.

[speed-of-heat]

so if you have removed any mods, and made sure that hotplug is switched off autoexec...

 

you need to have a look and see what background processes are active in windows

 

I would also make sure that Hyperthreading is turned off in BIOS/UEFI

[dg6546]

Added flat screen testing result

[dg6546]

so if you have removed any mods, and made sure that hotplug is switched off autoexec...

 

you need to have a look and see what background processes are active in windows

 

I would also make sure that Hyperthreading is turned off in BIOS/UEFI

 

As i remember turning off hyperthreading is not a big difference... Maybe test later

[Voyager]

According to all of the reviews, the 3080 offers at least an 80% improvement on the performance of the 1080Ti at 4K, sometimes much more (depending on the game).

 

The OP is using the original Vive with a very low resolution where CPU scaling plays a much bigger role.

 

There's still a possibility that something is not correctly setup on his system (e.g. drivers), but in any case if he had a HP Reverb instead, the improvement gains would have been much more significant.

 

Only when not CPU bound. Understand, most AAA games are built around the last generation of consoles: i.e. less CPU than an FX-4100. I imagine DCS would not be happy with one of those, even in the most optimized state.

[speed-of-heat]

As i remember turning off hyperthreading is not a big difference... Maybe test later

 

What is your HMD ?