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Test version 25115210882 (try hard test updated on 23 Sep,2020): https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=4496563&postcount=98

 

 

Now gonna rest from testing...

 

 

Spec:

cpu: i7 8700k @ 4.9Ghz

memory: DDR4 3200MHz 16GBx2

graphics card: ZOTAC GeForce RTX 3080 10GB Trinity (Previously 1080ti with watercooling)

monitor: 1440p 165Hz

 

 

VR:

 

OG vive

steamvr supersampling 1.5 (1852x2056 per eye, ~3704x2056)

 

 

 

 

Your cpu will still be the biggest bottleneck since DCS cannot utilize all of your cores.

No need to break your bank to buy one until ED decided to implement the new engine.

 

 

Time stamps:

0:00 single player flying (free flight)

2:31 low pass

9:21 landing/on ground

11:46 multiplayer on ground

13:47 / 17:47 low pass

16:23 multiplayer flying

 

[YOUTUBE]aR_rOPw27OY[/YOUTUBE]

 

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Flat screen:

 

I seldom play DCS with my monitor so I don't know what are the optimum settings.

OBS have used 30% of my GPU. You may expect more FPS.

I think those micro stuttering is due to recording.

 

[YOUTUBE]VS_dJ5qQu_I[/YOUTUBE]

 

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Sorry are you seriously stating there is no difference in VR between the 3080 and your previous card.

 

If so damn that’s a massive disappointment, even more so to see that you still appeared to have stutters as well. I was hoping the 3080 would allow me to have high graphics, sliders at the very least half right and NO stutters.

 

Please tell me ive read your first post wrong.

 

 

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What CPU you have? Your old GPU was what?

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Yeah CPU for the test plz. Memory? Etc... Also previous card?

New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1)

Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really).

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Your GPU frametime was very good, but the CPU FT was always in the yellow which should not be the case with modern CPUs. With my current setup, my CPU FT is always in the green zone. If you are using a modern CPU, something is clearly wrong causing instability. Too much overclocking?

PC: 9900K/3090, 32GB RAM.

Joystick bases: TMWx2, VPC WarBRD, MT50CM2, VKB GFII, FSSB R3L

Joystick grips: TM (Warthog, F/A-18C), Realsimulator (F-16SGRH, F-18CGRH), VKB (Kosmosima LH, MCG, MCG Pro), VPC MongoosT50-CM2

Throttles: TMWx2, Winwing Super Taurus, Logitech Throttle Quadrant

VR: HTC Vive/Pro/Oculus Rift/Valve Index/Quest 2

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added spec.

 

I am now very disappointed... If ED won't update their engine, I think my coming reverb G2 will be useless too

 

Sorry are you seriously stating there is no difference in VR between the 3080 and your previous card.

 

If so damn that’s a massive disappointment, even more so to see that you still appeared to have stutters as well. I was hoping the 3080 would allow me to have high graphics, sliders at the very least half right and NO stutters.

 

Please tell me ive read your first post wrong.

 

Yeah CPU for the test plz. Memory? Etc... Also previous card?

 

What CPU you have? Your old GPU was what?
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Your GPU frametime was very good, but the CPU FT was always in the yellow which should not be the case with modern CPUs. With my current setup, my CPU FT is always in the green zone. If you are using a modern CPU, something is clearly wrong causing instability. Too much overclocking?

 

Probably not. My overclock is rock solid and it is on water

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Of course it would help, but below ss1.5 I wouldn't be able to see a single word in my cockpit.

 

Which headset and what native resolution?

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Probably not. My overclock is rock solid and it is on water

 

Ok then, just wanted to make sure you know what you are doing.

PC: 9900K/3090, 32GB RAM.

Joystick bases: TMWx2, VPC WarBRD, MT50CM2, VKB GFII, FSSB R3L

Joystick grips: TM (Warthog, F/A-18C), Realsimulator (F-16SGRH, F-18CGRH), VKB (Kosmosima LH, MCG, MCG Pro), VPC MongoosT50-CM2

Throttles: TMWx2, Winwing Super Taurus, Logitech Throttle Quadrant

VR: HTC Vive/Pro/Oculus Rift/Valve Index/Quest 2

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I was not expecting a big difference with the 3080 to be honest, as I saw the benchmarks coming out, and now the rumour is 3090 is only another 10 - 20% on the 3080.

 

At this time I have not seen any reason to change my 2080Ti which is giving me good frames in VR and DCS already.

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[result] rtx 3080 for VR

 

Your GPU frametime was very good, but the CPU FT was always in the yellow which should not be the case with modern CPUs. With my current setup, my CPU FT is always in the green zone. If you are using a modern CPU, something is clearly wrong causing instability. Too much overclocking?

 

 

 

Much depends from the situation.

Mission fulls of scripting and ai units will destroy even the best cpu...and the gpu cannot help there.

I didn’t watch his video so I don’t know how he tested it.

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Joystick bases: Winwing SuperLibra, FSSB R3 Warthog

Joystick grips: Winwing F18, TM F-16

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Of course it would help, but below ss1.5 I wouldn't be able to see a single word in my cockpit.

 

 

 

Pd of 1.5 is very different from 150% ss...

So which of the one did you use?

Pd of 1.5 in dcs or oculus software is more then 200% ss in steamvr for instance.

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PC: 9900K/RTX2080Ti, 32GB RAM.

Joystick bases: Winwing SuperLibra, FSSB R3 Warthog

Joystick grips: Winwing F18, TM F-16

Throttles: Winwing Super Taurus

Hardware: MFG Crosswind Rudder, 4 Thrustmaster Cougar MFD, Logitech G13

VR:Valve Index

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OG vive. 2880 x 1600 pixels combined by google

 

 

 

Try to raise supersampling to a level where the gpu is the bottleneck...then you probably will see the difference

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PC: 9900K/RTX2080Ti, 32GB RAM.

Joystick bases: Winwing SuperLibra, FSSB R3 Warthog

Joystick grips: Winwing F18, TM F-16

Throttles: Winwing Super Taurus

Hardware: MFG Crosswind Rudder, 4 Thrustmaster Cougar MFD, Logitech G13

VR:Valve Index

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Does it at least lets you go higher graphic setting without frame rate hit? Higher PD or SS? MSAA? Shadows on? It should in theory if your CPU is bottlenecked and have tons of GPU headroom.

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Pd of 1.5 is very different from 150% ss...

So which of the one did you use?

Pd of 1.5 in dcs or oculus software is more then 200% ss in steamvr for instance.

 

steamvr that one

 

Try to raise supersampling to a level where the gpu is the bottleneck...then you probably will see the difference

 

Does it make sense to raise even more? My cpu is chocking on its 3 physical core. Graphs are included in the video.

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Does it at least lets you go higher graphic setting without frame rate hit? Higher PD or SS? MSAA? Shadows on? It should in theory if your CPU is bottlenecked and have tons of GPU headroom.

 

Yes it is "bottlenecked" because not all cores are utilized.

 

No settings are same. Although 3080 is giving me more GPU headroom but it is useless.

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Damn same cpu and GPU as me. This does not bo well. God I hope you find a way to solve this. Was thinking bout grabbing a 3090, but looking at this there may not be any point. Was after a FPS in VR of at the least 60 in ALL circumstances , pref up near the recommend 75fps for the Rift S Or new quest 2.

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[result] rtx 3080 for VR

 

steamvr that one

 

 

 

Does it make sense to raise even more? My cpu is chocking on its 3 physical core. Graphs are included in the video.

 

 

 

If you are cpu bottlenecked the only way to observe differences in performances between two different gpus is to move the load towards the gpu, so raising the resolution.

If you want to compare two different processors you should do the opposite...lower the res in order to move the load towards the CPU.

 

Anyway here you (we) want to compare GPUs, so raise your res (super sampling) and use the simplest mission possible (no ai units).

The best one I usually use for benchmarking GPU framtimes is the Fa/18 instant action in persian gulf map.

Fly over abu dhabi and observe the differences between resolutions or even better switching GPUs

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Joystick bases: Winwing SuperLibra, FSSB R3 Warthog

Joystick grips: Winwing F18, TM F-16

Throttles: Winwing Super Taurus

Hardware: MFG Crosswind Rudder, 4 Thrustmaster Cougar MFD, Logitech G13

VR:Valve Index

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Damn same cpu and GPU as me. This does not bo well. God I hope you find a way to solve this. Was thinking bout grabbing a 3090, but looking at this there may not be any point. Was after a FPS in VR of at the least 60 in ALL circumstances , pref up near the recommend 75fps for the Rift S Or new quest 2.

 

What is your setting? Do you run good? No cpu bottlenecking?

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What is your setting? Do you run good? No cpu bottlenecking?

 

Pretty much identical to your DCS settings, but no it doesn’t run well, I have the ground stuttering all over the place in VR. Which is there regardless of any setting changes. Ref the CPU bottlenecking, if I’m honest I’ve never checked. Hell I wouldn’t even know how to check.

 

I just stick in recommended settings and check the FPS and see if it’s smooth.

 

 

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Pretty much identical to your DCS settings, but no it doesn’t run well, I have the ground stuttering all over the place in VR. Which is there regardless of any setting changes. Ref the CPU bottlenecking, if I’m honest I’ve never checked. Hell I wouldn’t even know how to check.

 

I just stick in recommended settings and check the FPS and see if it’s smooth.

 

I have upgraded my whole rig just for DCS and it still sucks. I know your feeling. I thought it was all about my rig was not good enough, until I got that FPSVR plugin recently in steam. Then I finally figured it out it was DCS’ game engine problem. As you can see the CPU frametime is bad and those bars under cpu graph is cpu utilization of each core. Only three tall bars in the physical core.

 

At this time I have basically gave up.

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