redboot Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 I'm just starting to learn the FA-18 as a newcomer to flight sims. I've learned (i) taxi, take-off, straight-in landings, (ii) dumb bombs (CCIP) and rockets, and (iii) carrier take-offs. I've started on JDAMs and Radar. I only have about 3 hours a week to play and practice, so I have a longer than some ramp-up. Two questions: 1. What should I target first for learning? New weapons systems? ECM? Other? 2. At what point can I try multiplayer with reasonable capability? Do you need to learn every function first? Or can you dive in with only partial knowledge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKULA_OPTIMUS Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Most important for me, navigation, you cant hit anything if you don´t know where you are or where you are going xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzU Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Knowing where you are doesn't help if you can't land on the boat. Ok, Nav helps you find the boat but then what? Buzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomTOTEN Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Ok, Nav helps you find the boat but then what? So you made the case that navigation should be learned before carrier landings:music_whistling: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motomouse Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Start multiplayer now on the aerobatics online server! VIC-20@1.108 MHz, onboard GPU, 5KB RAM, μυωπία goggles, Competition Pro HOTAS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redboot Posted August 30, 2020 Author Share Posted August 30, 2020 Whoops, should have mentioned nav. I've learned that pretty well too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzU Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 So you made the case that navigation should be learned before carrier landings:music_whistling: Yeah, but if you can't find the boat you're just lost. If you can't land you could be dead. It's best to learn both. :) Buzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Talionis Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Aviate, navigate, communicate ... Find us on Discord. https://discord.gg/td9qeqg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrEaSeLiTeNiN Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Learning Priorities If you have little time per week and want to get to the weapons first, I'd recommend learning A-A radar/weapons/SA, then A-G weapons/radar/TPod. This is done 'test pilot' style with air starts where you are just testing and learning the systems as opposed to flying missions. The rest like countermeasures, radio comms, take off/landing and nav can come later. AMD Ryzen 5 5600X | Gigabyte RTX 3070 Gaming OC 8GB | 32GB Adata Spectrix D50 3600 Mhz (16x2) | Asus B550 TUF Plus Gaming | 2TB Aorus Gen4 HOTAS Warthog | TrackIR 5 | My Files | Windows 10 Home x64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=4c=Nikola Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Do not learn anything weapon systems related. It's changing every week. I've had to relearn TGP 3-4 times, jdams 2-3 times, laser bombs 2 times, mavericks 2 times, INS system 2-3 times, ACM modes 3-4 times, missile performance million times - it constantly shifts my timelines, and so on, you get the point. Waste of time. Even flight model is not finished, but at least it doesn't change every week. Someone suggested at this forum that learning systems as they are being introduced will be easier. Completely untrue. Do not expect fairness. The times of chivalry and fair competition are long gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverdevil Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Master being a pilot then work on being a warrior. But since it is a Sim you can work in blowing stuff up. AKA_SilverDevil AKA Forums My YouTube “It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.” — Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flamin_Squirrel Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Do not learn anything weapon systems related. It's changing every week. I've had to relearn TGP 3-4 times, jdams 2-3 times, laser bombs 2 times, mavericks 2 times, INS system 2-3 times, ACM modes 3-4 times, missile performance million times - it constantly shifts my timelines, and so on, you get the point. Waste of time. Even flight model is not finished, but at least it doesn't change every week. Someone suggested at this forum that learning systems as they are being introduced will be easier. Completely untrue. I think if systems had been released in a completed state it would have been sensible advice. As you point out though, it's been an exercise in frustration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stubbies2003 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Do not learn anything weapon systems related. It's changing every week. I've had to relearn TGP 3-4 times, jdams 2-3 times, laser bombs 2 times, mavericks 2 times, INS system 2-3 times, ACM modes 3-4 times, missile performance million times - it constantly shifts my timelines, and so on, you get the point. Waste of time. Well you not giving a time line for how long you have been flying the 18 versus this re learning makes this less than useful. Especially since I use the Mav F all the time and haven't had to re learn it so must disagree with that being a "waste of time". Now perhaps you are referencing that in conjunction with TGP use. That wouldn't be the fault of the Mav F itself as that hasn't changed in awhile now using it's own sensor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra99 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Aviate.. Navigate... Communicate... Operate... Aviate...Learn how to operate the aircraft. When you can do 25 cold starts, takeoffs and landings in a row without forgetting anything move on to ... Navigate...learn how to fly point to point using all of the tools at your disposal. Learn what the information on the HUD, HSI, CDU screens means. Learn how to create way points and put them into a flight plan.... Communicate...learn how to use Simole Radio and the in game comes to communicate with your teammates... Finally learn how to operate different weapons systems. Start with unguided dumb weapons and move in from there. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Primary Computer ASUS Z390-P, i7-9700K CPU @ 5.0Ghz, 32GB Patriot Viper Steel DDR4 @ 3200Mhz, ZOTAC GeForce 1070 Ti AMP Extreme, Samsung 970 EVO M.2 NVMe drives (1Tb & 500 Gb), Windows 10 Professional, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Thrustmaster Warthog Stick, Thrustmaster Cougar Throttle, Cougar MFDs x3, Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals and TrackIR 5. -={TAC}=-DCS Server Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3, i7-3770K CPU @ 3.90GHz, 32GB G.SKILL Ripjaws DDR3 @ 1600Mhz, ZOTAC GeForce® GTX 970. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swift. Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Aviate.. Navigate... Communicate... Operate... Aviate...Learn how to operate the aircraft. When you can do 25 cold starts, takeoffs and landings in a row without forgetting anything move on to ... Navigate...learn how to fly point to point using all of the tools at your disposal. Learn what the information on the HUD, HSI, CDU screens means. Learn how to create way points and put them into a flight plan.... Communicate...learn how to use Simole Radio and the in game comes to communicate with your teammates... Finally learn how to operate different weapons systems. Start with unguided dumb weapons and move in from there. I'll add to the Navigate section: Learn how to navigate without waypoints, so Tacan and Visual navigation. In particular Tacan point to point (not directly to and from a beacon), and non-precision IFR approaches using Tacan 476th Discord | 476th Website | Swift Youtube Ryzen 5800x, RTX 4070ti, 64GB, Quest 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 As they have said, navigation is the main thing. Insert waypoints, tacan, radios, etc, but after that, you can't go anywhere if you don't know how to defend yourself in the air, therefore the priority is radar, datalink and missiles. If you don't know how to defend yourself in the air, I don't think the multiplayer enemy will allow you to go into an area to do an air-to-ground attack. It will never reach its destination. https://launionescuadron.webnode.es/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmy Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Aviate.. Navigate... Communicate... Operate... Aviate...Learn how to operate the aircraft. When you can do 25 cold starts, takeoffs and landings in a row without forgetting anything move on to ... Navigate...learn how to fly point to point using all of the tools at your disposal. Learn what the information on the HUD, HSI, CDU screens means. Learn how to create way points and put them into a flight plan.... Communicate...learn how to use Simole Radio and the in game comes to communicate with your teammates... Finally learn how to operate different weapons systems. Start with unguided dumb weapons and move in from there. This. Totally This... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] http://www.476vfightergroup.com/content.php High Quality Aviation Photography For Personal Enjoyment And Editorial Use. www.crosswindimages.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisgrind Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Knowing where you are doesn't help if you can't land on the boat. Ok, Nav helps you find the boat but then what? Triple E near the boat isn't that hard... :smartass: Ryzen 5 3600 | 5700 XT | 32gb | NVME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Spad_ Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Aviate.. Navigate... Communicate... Operate... Aviate...Learn how to operate the aircraft. When you can do 25 cold starts, takeoffs and landings in a row without forgetting anything move on to ... Navigate...learn how to fly point to point using all of the tools at your disposal. Learn what the information on the HUD, HSI, CDU screens means. Learn how to create way points and put them into a flight plan.... Communicate...learn how to use Simole Radio and the in game comes to communicate with your teammates... Finally learn how to operate different weapons systems. Start with unguided dumb weapons and move in from there. Exactly this. Learn to fly it, then learn to fight with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaiderOne Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Do not learn anything weapon systems related. It's changing every week. I've had to relearn TGP 3-4 times, jdams 2-3 times, laser bombs 2 times, mavericks 2 times, INS system 2-3 times, ACM modes 3-4 times, missile performance million times - it constantly shifts my timelines, and so on, you get the point. Waste of time. Even flight model is not finished, but at least it doesn't change every week. Someone suggested at this forum that learning systems as they are being introduced will be easier. Completely untrue. It's so well summed up! So true ... unfortunately you are absolutely right! :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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