RealDCSpilot Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Ah, thanks! Smart workaround. i9 13900K @5.5GHz, Z790 Gigabyte Aorus Master, RTX4090 Waterforce, 64 GB DDR5 @5600, Pico 4, HOTAS & Rudder: all Virpil with Rhino FFB base made by VPforce, DCS: all modules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STRYC Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 "...You'll see the whole bandwidth there, from 0% to whatever. In DCS and VR you can really push the limits with it." Huh? Can you specify? What does any of that mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STRYC Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Star Wars Squadron game play is fun, but I'm NOT at all impressed with the graphics. In some areas it looks cartoonish like borderlands. Elite Dangerous is a much older game with far superior graphics, especially in VR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansangb Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Yeah I had a blast playing that one yesterday also. Gorgeous in VR. Well I have about decided it is time to have "a talk" later this evening with my wonderful wife , and see what kind of reaction I get when I tell her I would very much like to spend the bucks on a 3090 card. If I don't change my mind again before then which is certainly possible lol. Don, go to dinner and look absolutely frustrated (but not upset, this is important). When she asks "what's wrong?" Say, "oh, nothing..." but sigh (this is important) When she inevitably follows up with another question, say "Oh, that computer part I was going to change an changed my mind about? I may have been rash...I think my first decision was right....Remember the CUDA cores? The extra memory BW, the unique fan design?" As her eye rolls back from boredom throw in a "....but it's OK, I'll deal with it some how." And you'll have your 3090! :D:D You're welcome. hsb HW Spec in Spoiler --- i7-10700K Direct-To-Die/OC'ed to 5.1GHz, MSI Z490 MB, 32GB DDR4 3200MHz, EVGA 2080 Ti FTW3, NVMe+SSD, Win 10 x64 Pro, MFG, Warthog, TM MFDs, Komodo Huey set, Rverbe G1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealDCSpilot Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) Huh? Can you specify? What does any of that mean? It means that you can take a high resolution HMD, set a higher SS value than it's original panel resolution and still go extremely high with DCS settings, like 4x MSAA, shadows and cockpit GI enabled, high or ultra or extreme on the other settings and the 3090 won't let you down. That was my first test: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/729748024724553738/761635988866072606/DCS_Settings_3090.jpg Atm i'm also running visibility range set to extreme. If money isn't the problem, you can get there with the latest gen of hardware. I still would recommend to wait for the 16GB VRAM versions from Nvidia and AMD for better bang for the buck ratio. And maybe next year, with DCS's core engine overhauled, even lower tier hardware will be able to get the same results. Edited October 5, 2020 by Alec Delorean i9 13900K @5.5GHz, Z790 Gigabyte Aorus Master, RTX4090 Waterforce, 64 GB DDR5 @5600, Pico 4, HOTAS & Rudder: all Virpil with Rhino FFB base made by VPforce, DCS: all modules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburne Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Don, go to dinner and look absolutely frustrated (but not upset, this is important). When she asks "what's wrong?" Say, "oh, nothing..." but sigh (this is important) When she inevitably follows up with another question, say "Oh, that computer part I was going to change an changed my mind about? I may have been rash...I think my first decision was right....Remember the CUDA cores? The extra memory BW, the unique fan design?" As her eye rolls back from boredom throw in a "....but it's OK, I'll deal with it some how." And you'll have your 3090! :D:D You're welcome. Lol yeah at least something like that. I think I more so have to convince myself it is worth spending that amount. Really peeved at Nvidia for only putting 10GB of Vram in the 3080's. Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburne Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 :thumbup: OK got the wife's whole hearted blessing! I have decided to go with the 3090 in hopes it really helps get a great experience with the upcoming Reverb G2. At least the best I can achieve. Going to hold out till I can get my hands on specifically an EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra. No telling when that will be, hoping I can get it by the time the Reverb G2 gets here. Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Awesome, senior management buy in is the most important step... SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansangb Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 :thumbup: OK got the wife's whole hearted blessing! I have decided to go with the 3090 in hopes it really helps get a great experience with the upcoming Reverb G2. At least the best I can achieve. Going to hold out till I can get my hands on specifically an EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra. No telling when that will be, hoping I can get it by the time the Reverb G2 gets here. Awesome. I'm going to sit tight for Hyrbrid (AIO) version. I switched to CPU air/tower cooler so I need to be careful. hsb HW Spec in Spoiler --- i7-10700K Direct-To-Die/OC'ed to 5.1GHz, MSI Z490 MB, 32GB DDR4 3200MHz, EVGA 2080 Ti FTW3, NVMe+SSD, Win 10 x64 Pro, MFG, Warthog, TM MFDs, Komodo Huey set, Rverbe G1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueSqdn Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Talked to Falcon Northwest today... apparently I’ll be in the second batch of 3090s and my system will ship around the 13th. I’m inclined to just wait until then to get Squadrons going. Bonus: they may have patched HOTAS issues I’ve read about by then. Until then, I’m getting close to winning a Syria campaign in Liberation. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro DEFENSOR FORTIS Spoiler Systems: Falcon NW Talon: Ryzen 9 5950X @4.9GHz, 64GB DDR4, RTX 3090 FE; Falcon NW Mach V: Core i7 3930K @3.2GHz, 32GB DDR3, GTX 1080 FE Cockpit: MonsterTech MTX F, 42" 4K TV, HP Reverb G2, Oculus Rift S, PointCTRL Controls: RS F16SGRH CE, RS F18CGRH, VPC T-50CM2, VFX, WarBRD (Grips); VPC T-50CM2, RS FSSB R3L (Bases); Winwing F/A-18C, VPC T-50CM3, VPC T-50CM, TM Warthog, Cougar (Throttles); VPC ACE2 (Rudders) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueSqdn Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Just got a message from FalconNW and called them back... they have the 3090 FE in stock and were offering to me in place of the EVGA XC3 Gaming. Since the FE is what I wanted to begin with, I took it. The system is already built pending a video card, but now due to the larger size of the FE, will require some slight reconfiguration. It may end up shipping late this week, or possibly Monday. I’m told they have 20 of them in stock, but will only sell individual cards if you’re already a customer. If you’re looking for a new system, they may be the ticket for you. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro DEFENSOR FORTIS Spoiler Systems: Falcon NW Talon: Ryzen 9 5950X @4.9GHz, 64GB DDR4, RTX 3090 FE; Falcon NW Mach V: Core i7 3930K @3.2GHz, 32GB DDR3, GTX 1080 FE Cockpit: MonsterTech MTX F, 42" 4K TV, HP Reverb G2, Oculus Rift S, PointCTRL Controls: RS F16SGRH CE, RS F18CGRH, VPC T-50CM2, VFX, WarBRD (Grips); VPC T-50CM2, RS FSSB R3L (Bases); Winwing F/A-18C, VPC T-50CM3, VPC T-50CM, TM Warthog, Cougar (Throttles); VPC ACE2 (Rudders) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STRYC Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Just got a message from FalconNW and called them back... they have the 3090 FE in stock and were offering to me in place of the EVGA XC3 Gaming. So you're going to make a youtube video of DCS running on your 3090 and posting the link here, Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueSqdn Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 I’ve never done that before... wouldn’t know the first thing about it! What do people use to capture that video? I can’t just have someone record me with their phone. I WOULD be glad to post my DCS and card settings and FPS. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro DEFENSOR FORTIS Spoiler Systems: Falcon NW Talon: Ryzen 9 5950X @4.9GHz, 64GB DDR4, RTX 3090 FE; Falcon NW Mach V: Core i7 3930K @3.2GHz, 32GB DDR3, GTX 1080 FE Cockpit: MonsterTech MTX F, 42" 4K TV, HP Reverb G2, Oculus Rift S, PointCTRL Controls: RS F16SGRH CE, RS F18CGRH, VPC T-50CM2, VFX, WarBRD (Grips); VPC T-50CM2, RS FSSB R3L (Bases); Winwing F/A-18C, VPC T-50CM3, VPC T-50CM, TM Warthog, Cougar (Throttles); VPC ACE2 (Rudders) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VpR81 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) What do people use to capture that video? Windows 10 has a integrated X-Box live control bar wich is capable of recording in-game videos. I had always good results with it. Maybe you wanna give it a try. To activate it press Win + G and start recording by pressing the record button. Longer videos with X-Box live are propably to large for uploading, depending on your internet connection. But for a short video demonstrating your FPS etc., it should be ok. Another option would be FRAPS, but i haven't used it since i upgraded from Win 7 to Win 10. So i can't tell how it works out under Win 10. edit: I'm a bit confused about the new 30XX series. I'm not sure if i'm willing to spend 1500-1800 bucks for the 3090 and i'm wondering if there will be a 3080Ti, wich is what i'm waiting for. I haven't read anything about it, just that there will propably be a 3080 with 16-20GB VRAM. Will this be the 3080Ti, or will the 3080Ti be a separate model? Does anyone know that? Cheers Edited October 6, 2020 by VpR81 Phanteks EvolvX / Win 11 / i9 12900K / MSI Z690 Carbon / MSI Suprim RTX 3090 / 64GB G.Skill Trident Z DDR5-6000 / 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD / 2TB PCIe 3.0 NVMe SSD / 2TB SATA SSD / 1TB SATA SSD / Alphacool Eisbaer Aurora Pro 360 / beQuiet StraightPower 1200W RSEAT S1 / VPC T50 CM2 + 300mm extension + Realsimulator F18 CGRH / VPC WarBRD + TM Warthog grip / WinWing F/A-18 Super Taurus + F-15EX / 4x TM Cougar MFD / Slaw Device RX Viper V3 / HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Yep, it works well, but is there any way to include overlays, like fpsVR? Much more important to see that info than a simple fps. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VpR81 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Yep, it works well, but is there any way to include overlays, like fpsVR? Much more important to see that info than a simple fps. Afaik, the X-Box live bar records anything displayed on your screen. But to be honest, i never tried it with any overlays. Phanteks EvolvX / Win 11 / i9 12900K / MSI Z690 Carbon / MSI Suprim RTX 3090 / 64GB G.Skill Trident Z DDR5-6000 / 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD / 2TB PCIe 3.0 NVMe SSD / 2TB SATA SSD / 1TB SATA SSD / Alphacool Eisbaer Aurora Pro 360 / beQuiet StraightPower 1200W RSEAT S1 / VPC T50 CM2 + 300mm extension + Realsimulator F18 CGRH / VPC WarBRD + TM Warthog grip / WinWing F/A-18 Super Taurus + F-15EX / 4x TM Cougar MFD / Slaw Device RX Viper V3 / HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Just tried it. Unfortunately, it doesn't capture any overlays. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revs Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Don, go to dinner and look absolutely frustrated (but not upset, this is important). When she asks "what's wrong?" Say, "oh, nothing..." but sigh (this is important) When she inevitably follows up with another question, say "Oh, that computer part I was going to change an changed my mind about? I may have been rash...I think my first decision was right....Remember the CUDA cores? The extra memory BW, the unique fan design?" As her eye rolls back from boredom throw in a "....but it's OK, I'll deal with it some how." And you'll have your 3090! :D:D You're welcome. Snatch myself an i9 10900K, have my wife post it on facebook marketplace for $70 mark up, of course no one wants it, so I’ll end up upgrading with it soon. Ryzen 1700 @ 3.8GHz / 32GB( 4x8 ) @ 3.2GHz / 1TB ADATA NVMe System Drive / 232GB NVMe Samsung 960 / ASUS dual RTX 2080ti / Reverb / Rift CV1 / T-16000M FCS flight pack A10C/M2000C/F5E/SA342/Mi8/UH1H/KA50/AJS-37/FA-18C/AV-8B/F-14/Mig29/CA/SU-27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueSqdn Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 I’m currently using the Rift S, so any results I post will be with that until the G2 comes. Shouldn’t DCS’s built in FPS counter be enough? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro DEFENSOR FORTIS Spoiler Systems: Falcon NW Talon: Ryzen 9 5950X @4.9GHz, 64GB DDR4, RTX 3090 FE; Falcon NW Mach V: Core i7 3930K @3.2GHz, 32GB DDR3, GTX 1080 FE Cockpit: MonsterTech MTX F, 42" 4K TV, HP Reverb G2, Oculus Rift S, PointCTRL Controls: RS F16SGRH CE, RS F18CGRH, VPC T-50CM2, VFX, WarBRD (Grips); VPC T-50CM2, RS FSSB R3L (Bases); Winwing F/A-18C, VPC T-50CM3, VPC T-50CM, TM Warthog, Cougar (Throttles); VPC ACE2 (Rudders) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 I’m currently using the Rift S, so any results I post will be with that until the G2 comes. Shouldn’t DCS’s built in FPS counter be enough? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro No, it’s not all about fps especially when reprojection is involved. Frame time is much more interesting. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueSqdn Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) Anyone planning on getting the 3090 for VR? How about when you press it a second time and all the extra info shows up? For it provide frame time (and what is frame time, by the way)? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Edited October 6, 2020 by RogueSqdn DEFENSOR FORTIS Spoiler Systems: Falcon NW Talon: Ryzen 9 5950X @4.9GHz, 64GB DDR4, RTX 3090 FE; Falcon NW Mach V: Core i7 3930K @3.2GHz, 32GB DDR3, GTX 1080 FE Cockpit: MonsterTech MTX F, 42" 4K TV, HP Reverb G2, Oculus Rift S, PointCTRL Controls: RS F16SGRH CE, RS F18CGRH, VPC T-50CM2, VFX, WarBRD (Grips); VPC T-50CM2, RS FSSB R3L (Bases); Winwing F/A-18C, VPC T-50CM3, VPC T-50CM, TM Warthog, Cougar (Throttles); VPC ACE2 (Rudders) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 It’s gobbledegook most of it. And it’s bugged. VRAM shows as 0! Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Frame time is the time it takes for your GPU to render a frame. So if you have a frame time of 20ms, you would see FPS of 1000/20, i.e. 50. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueSqdn Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 If that’s so, can’t you just calculate it from your FPS? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro DEFENSOR FORTIS Spoiler Systems: Falcon NW Talon: Ryzen 9 5950X @4.9GHz, 64GB DDR4, RTX 3090 FE; Falcon NW Mach V: Core i7 3930K @3.2GHz, 32GB DDR3, GTX 1080 FE Cockpit: MonsterTech MTX F, 42" 4K TV, HP Reverb G2, Oculus Rift S, PointCTRL Controls: RS F16SGRH CE, RS F18CGRH, VPC T-50CM2, VFX, WarBRD (Grips); VPC T-50CM2, RS FSSB R3L (Bases); Winwing F/A-18C, VPC T-50CM3, VPC T-50CM, TM Warthog, Cougar (Throttles); VPC ACE2 (Rudders) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Applies to your CPU as well. That can sometimes be the bottleneck and hold back the GPU. fpsVR gives you all that info. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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