Uncontrolled planes self exploding at parking stand

[NightFlier]

Perfectly working mission before the latest update (2.5.6.53756) I've been working on for 1 month, now has 5 uncontrolled Red planes (all the uncontrolled aircrafts in the mission) self exploding after 2 minutes. Uncontrolled Helis are ok. Airborne planes are ok.

No unwanted triggers are present, all the triggers are ok.

 

Thanks

[NeedzWD40]

Yes, I've been having a similar strange issue, but only on the Persian Gulf map and at Shiraz, Lar, and Kerman airbases. Uncontrolled aircraft set to red Iranian side will mysteriously explode 75-90 seconds from mission start at these airfields, regardless of date or time.

 

 

I cannot recreate the effect with a new mission, only with some older ones. What seemingly fixes it for me is adding an uncontrolled blue plane to Shiraz airfield, after which nothing explodes anymore. I'm playing around to see if there's any other avenues outside of starting from scratch.

[Wesjet]

Can confirm NeedzWD40's report above about defective missions, I have a copy of some that he has built and was able to replicate the issue as described. I did not test the solution however.

 

Similarly, I have not been able to create the issue from a fresh mission.

[NightFlier]

Does it solve the issue copying, deleting and pasting those planes?

Edited August 20, 2020 by Night Flier

[Grimes]

If you can't recreate it with a new mission, then attaching an older mission where it does occur would be helpful.

[NeedzWD40]

Alright, so prior to this update, uncontrolled red side jets were fine; nothing happened. Now, anywhere from 60-120 seconds after the mission starts, every uncontrolled red jet at Shiraz, Kerman, and Lar will explode. Attached is the mission without the blue jet present at Shiraz and the same mission with the blue jet present (v0 is the one with the fix applied and vEXP is without). For me, at approximately 98 seconds in, the uncontrolled red jets explode. This has been verified by others. New groups, deletion and recreation of old groups has no effect -- they all suffer the explosion.

jenas_pass_pg_ob256vEXP.miz

jenas_pass_pg_ob256v0.miz

[NightFlier]

Any news regarding this issue?

[NeedzWD40]

The only news I have is that I have another scenario that has the same bug.

osiris_theatre_pg_ob255v0.miz

[NightFlier]

Is it an old one (pre-DCS update) or is it happening on a fresh mission?

 

This is getting annoying, hours and days spent on triggers, ideas, coordinations and now those missions are unusable...

[Grimes]

The newer missions were helpful because I was able to delete objects to simplify the mission file while retaining the bug. After a bit of tweaking I have been able to figure out the cause and report the bug. The good news is it occurred on one test build but not another, so I hope that perhaps they can figure out what the problem is and merge a fix. I set it as a high priority because this is fairly game breaking and that they might have inadvertently fixed it on that other build.

 

As a workaround I think if you switch them to late activation it will be fine.

 

 

The cause of the problem is interest to say the least. Going bymy tests it appears that if any enemy aircraft is further than somewhere around 450km away from an uncontrolled group, that group will eventually explode. It doesn't really make any sense why. Maybe they added some garbage collection to process anything outside a given radius of active aircraft, I don't know. Suffice to say it was a real headscratcher figuring out why it was happening. Hopefully this will get fixed swiftly.

[Woody01]

Im glad to see this thread! I thought I must have done something weird to make this happen. This is on a brand new build it is happening to me on, I totally rebuilt a mission from scratch because of this. Yes a fairly major bug.