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I mean...perhaps this is a little too "on the nose" but a 38th Parallel map would be great! not to try and make DCS compare even closer to any other particular flight sim :lol: But a none discriminant 38th parallel map would be great.

 

My question would be what would people prefer? A 1980s-Modern Day Korean 38th Parallel map or a 1950-54 map?

 

TL : DR, whos more happy to compromise here? I would prefer a more modern map and compromise when flying Korean war jets because I fly more modern planes...but who knows...if we got a accurate 1950s Korean map perhaps I'd be willing to compromise Modern missions for more 1950s accuracy when I want to fly my Sabre or the Mig.

 

Why compromise? In a different thread, I suggested 3 versions (how unreasonable of me!),

 

1) Korea 1950's, 1980, 2020 (pick one for more roads more buildings more and paved airfields). Mustangs, Migs, Corsairs, Sabres, Vipers, Hornets and Carriers, Cobras and Hips, Hueys.

 

Also:

 

2) Norway Sweden Finland Russia region (think EF2000 map) because mountains, Fjords, glaciers, for Viggen era, F-16 era, and maybe paint up some JF-17's to look like Grippens or Eurofighters. Serious problem though: this is about 8 times more terrain data than the largest DCS map today, so it'll have to wait for new/better hardware, and/or better software

 

3) Vietnam. for Huey's, A-6's, F-5 Tigers, Mig-19's and 21's, eventual F-4's and A-7's. possible Cobra (if they ever get here)

 

4) Central America. Or South America, a sliver of it anyway. Because trees and rivers, hills and mountains.

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IMHO Korea is a much more likely candidate than Taiwan. Here's why:

 

1. Adding the Republic of China as a playable nation is bound to stir huge controversy in the PRC. ED understandably doesn't want to upset the massive Chinese market and lose their support for new and existing Chinese modules.

 

2. Any number of conflicts could play out in Korea, from an alt history ending of WW2 to the present day. Because the Korean Peninsula is region of significant strategic importance, any such conflict would practically guarantee some degree of participation of at least two, potentially three superpowers through geographic proximity and/or vested interests in the area.

 

3. It seems to me that Russia would be far less likely to join a conflict across the Taiwan strait than a second Korean War. The majority of REDFOR hardware in DCS is of Russian origin, so keeping Russia as a potential actor on a given map seems like the sensible thing to do.

 

As a side note, both areas seem equally well-suited to carrier operations and benefit from being located in South-East Asia, a region woefully underexplored by combat simulators in general.

 

I'm not convinced that a map of the Fulda Gap would be feasible given the density of population centres in Western Europe, it might take up A LOT of drive space. Both the Balkans and the Aegean seem like very interesting ideas though. We have enough Middle Eastern maps as is, so any region with plenty of green (or white, depending on the season) would be a welcome change. Maybe Kaliningrad could be an option?

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Please, UGRA, finish 100% your current products before starting another project. Some of us are tired of half-finished products and eternal betas in DCS World. Please, don't be as other developers (won't say names) that don't actually finish the products because they are always jumping from a project to another.

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Why compromise? In a different thread, I suggested 3 versions (how unreasonable of me!),

 

 

 

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Tbh yes, thats why I didn't use that as an option. We have yet to have a developer make a "map pack" and even Heatblur currently is the only developer thats giving us anything more then 1 playable product from 2 seperate dates for the same price as others. Even people like TrueGrit are just going to add something like the AIM-132 on the end of the EF-2000's development cycle rather then making a fresh dedicated aircraft for British players.

 

So until I'm proved otherwise in the map department I'm assuming that the $40-60 price gap only allows for 1 map without the risk of loosing profits.

 

for a Korea map this would be extremely evident too (even more then most) as since the 1950s to present South Korea and at some extent even North Korea have exploded industrial wise. Its not something you could overlook as easily as say the Channel map (when doing Cold War missions on that map vs WW2 stuff)

 

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Middle Earth. Who wants to buzz the shire in a Huey?
Better not. It would be so disappointing knowing you could make the Shire-Mount Doom travel in just minutes instead of 2 years… :lol::lol::lol:

 

 

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Balkans, Fulda gap, GIUK, Baltic Sea are the ones I am hoping for as well!

I really wait for the Falklands so I can start getting further away form the warmer maps and have snowy missions. (except Caucasus)

 

My strongest wish though is an improved map system in general so the map size can steadily grow. (or engine, I dont know what is needed for that)

I would really love to have Germany (Fulda Gap) and Balkans on one map for example, or have the GIUK Line together with the Baltics and Norway.

 

That's what I hope for before they make more maps. Finished products are obvious for me, I think UGRA knows that, so no need to mention it that often.

 

 

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So until I'm proved otherwise in the map department I'm assuming that the $40-60 price gap only allows for 1 map without the risk of loosing profits.

 

for a Korea map this would be extremely evident too (even more then most) as since the 1950s to present South Korea and at some extent even North Korea have exploded industrial wise. Its not something you could overlook as easily as say the Channel map (when doing Cold War missions on that map vs WW2

 

Modern day, assets for both now and the 50s, and suspend disbelief for 50s scenarios. I know, even two eras of assets might be pushing it.

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1. Korea

2. Korea

3. Korea

 

If you'd make Korea with a low detail Shandong peninsula, Liaoning peninsula and MCAS Iwakuni I'd be set for life.

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As we are on the subject of possible border clashs .....I thought Id throw on my oar.

 

(1) Cold war front .....German-Czech-Poland area.....I think it would be one of everybodys favourites to be honest.

(2)India-Pakistan-China border region.....An interesting area for of potential clashs.

(2)Greece-Turkey.....Another favourite in my opinion.

(4)North and South Korea..... Terrain much like Caucaus I expect.

(5) Expand on the Channel map for future British/European wars ..... lmfao

 

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Honestly Ugra has a lot of awesome stuff planned for this map, perhaps more than any other in DCS, the rest of the world will need more devs I reckon.

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On 1/20/2021 at 5:42 AM, carss said:

How about a China/Taiwan theatre? Or India Pakistan theatre?

I've browsed across the forum regarding Taiwan(ROC) being added as a faction or adding a Taiwan-Strait map, as a Chinese myself, although I am greatly in favour of adding Taiwan, it is foreseeable that adding Taiwan would result in DCS be immediately banned by CPC in China mainland, which would be a remarkable customer loss for ED. You can judge by ED's recent behaviour that they did not want that to happen.

Let's hope this will happen in the future, after China get a better government/policy.

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