ships

[upyr1]

I know we're getting an Essex class carrier, but anyone know if we're getting any cruisers, destroyers, or battleships or what we'll have for the Japanese side? When the dynamic campign is out I want a carrier battle.

[Silver_Dragon]

Exess Carrier coming from Magnitude 3 3rd party with F4U1 Corsair. ED expected expand WW2 assets pack in a future to build mor naval assets.

[Devil 505]

Oh god, my balls tingled when I saw "ships".  I would love to see the future accelerated and more time put into full blown Naval modules.  Even started a thread on it a while back I think.  WW2 is the best place to start.  Japan, Germany, and the US all had PT (Patrol) boats that would be a great intro into the naval module world.  We already have a German AI one.  Really looking forward to improved Navy operations at some point.  

 

I wish I knew how to code and work with Mods.  I have these two beauties sitting 4 hours from me on the coast.  They are both pampered pretty well and look amazing.  The USS Stewart is one of 3 destroyer escorts left in the world.  The USS Cavalla is the sub.  I could get some amazing photogrammetry going for both if I had a way to program them into modules for DCS.  

 

When she returns, I also have the Battleship Texas down the road.  She was moved to dry dock for refit.  My grandfather served on her.  PHENOMENAL ship.  

 

Edited December 9, 2020 by robert.clark251

[KL0083]

 

[AG-51_Razor]

A CVE for the Corsair and any other US Navy carrier planes would be a priority of mine however anything from that era would be gladly accepted!

[rkk01]

That’s ^^ not a WW2 condition sub though...

 

Post war the RN and USN conducted a lot of research on the German Type XXI and XXIII subs - the result being surviving WW2 subs were heavily modified for Cold War service. USN boats were larger anyway, but the RN T class, for example, were lengthened and streamlined to provide more battery capacity, reduce noise and increase underwater speed.  The T class conversions were very successful and conducted some of the early electronic intelligence gathering off the Soviet home ports...

Edited January 19 by rkk01

[rayrayblues]

My father served on this ship 1943/45. Fletcher Class Destroyer DD 679 USS McNair.

This would be a nice addition.

 

 

 

[Andrew8604]

WWII US Navy ships?  For an Essex-class carrier, I would suggest typical escorts of the time.  The fleet carriers were "fast carriers".  That is, the whole battle group was capable of 31 to 33 knots, I believe.  DE's (destroyer escorts) and CVE's are not part of a fast carrier group.  They could only do about 22 knots or so.  They escorted slow amphibious groups and cargo/oiler ships.

 

Destroyer (DD) - I would suggest the Fletcher Class.  There were 175 of these built.  The most numerous of probably any destroyer class of any navy.  They were common. I'd suggest a version with five 5in /38 guns in single mounts (with single Mk37 fire-control system) and three twin 40mm mounts (with Mk51 FCS), as they probably would have been configured while escorting Essex-class carriers.  Each twin 40mm mount had its own Mk51 director, nearby on a separate pedestal.  The Mk51 was a visually aimed, lead-computing sight that then aimed the 40mm mounts assigned to it.  The iron sights on the 40mm mount were a backup in the event of no Mk51's being in service.  The single 40mm mounts on the APA (amphibious attack transport ships) in DCS are visually aimed by watching where the tracers go in 2D video...and good luck hitting anything with them.

 

Light Cruiser (CL) - I suggest the Cleveland Class.  27 of these were built.  Probably the most of any cruiser class.  They carried 4 triple-mount 6" guns, 6 twin 5in/38 mounts, 4 quad-mount and 6 twin-mount 40mm guns with multiple Mk51 directors.

 

Battleship (BB) - Probably the Iowa Class.  4 of these built.  Besides the nine 16in guns, there were ten twin 5in mounts and 20 quad 40mm mounts.

 

All of the above had various numbers of 20mm gun mounts, too.

 

Light Carrier (CVL) - The Independence Class, for sure.  9 were built.  With 2 quad, 8 dual and 16 single 40mm mounts, with 10 Mk51 directors.  Various guns could be linked up with different directors.

 

Essex Carrier (CV) - 24 were built, but only about 14 in time to serve in WWII.  All had 4 twin 5in mounts and 4 single 5in mounts, from 8 to 18 quad 40mm mounts, and a bunch of 20mm. 

 

So 5 models of ships here.  That should be a very good start.

 

Eventually, I'd like to see an older set of 5 or 6 ships classes around the Yorktown class and Lexington class carriers.  These would go along well with a Battle of Midway map and the F4F-4 Wildcat, SBD Dauntless and TBD-1 Devastator aircraft.

 

Then all of these assets could be used in various scenarios in various maps.

[Rakkis]

As I stated in the other ships thread over in WWII Assets Pack: I believe surface combatants should be the priority, with the most widely produced of each primary combatant modeled first (Type 1934, Matsu Class[?], C Class[?], Fletcher Class). After that a Capital ship each: Bismarck, Hood (as much as I'd love to see Warspite the Hood/Bismarck showdown is too historically relevant to dismiss), Akagi, and a South Dakota Class, then everything else as needed. I FULLY expect ED to get right on all of this as soon as I win the lottery and give them $10 Million to do what some random guy on the internet planned out in his boxers whilst sipping his morning coffee.  

[rkk01]

Don’t see the point of Bismarck and Hood in a flight sim... 

 

On the other hand, for ETO naval assets:

 

- Scharnhorst, Gneisenau and Prinz Eugen all fit for the Channel maps

- Scharnhorst and Tirpitz would spice up a Norway coastal map, even if Mossie raids on these boats are not historically accurate (highball anyone?)
- Most interesting theatre for UK / German / Italian naval assets (in an air warfare / flight sim terms) would be the Mediterranean

[Rakkis]

32 minutes ago, rkk01 said:

Don’t see the point of Bismarck and Hood in a flight sim... 

Sir, this is a Digital COMBAT Simulator, Bismarck and Hood were surface COMBATANTS. lol  But no, I understand your point, and you're likely correct at least at our current stage off WWII Asset Needs.

[upyr1]

On 12/8/2020 at 10:03 PM, Devil 505 said:

Oh god, my balls tingled when I saw "ships".  I would love to see the future accelerated and more time put into full blown Naval modules.  Even started a thread on it a while back I think.  WW2 is the best place to start.  Japan, Germany, and the US all had PT (Patrol) boats that would be a great intro into the naval module world.  We already have a German AI one.  Really looking forward to improved Navy operations at some point.  

 

I wish I knew how to code and work with Mods.  I have these two beauties sitting 4 hours from me on the coast.  They are both pampered pretty well and look amazing.  The USS Stewart is one of 3 destroyer escorts left in the world.  The USS Cavalla is the sub.  I could get some amazing photogrammetry going for both if I had a way to program them into modules for DCS.  

 

When she returns, I also have the Battleship Texas down the road.  She was moved to dry dock for refit.  My grandfather served on her.  PHENOMENAL ship.  

 

 

It would be cool to see the Texas shelling one of the Normandy maps we have