ex81 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 Hi, managed to land on the carrier about a hundret times. The big problem is: I always get this EGIW, When do I have to get in afterburner ? Before catching the wire ? Always thought, I would become to fast. What is right ? What goes up, must come down ! Intel Core i7-8700, 16 GB-RAM, Nvidia GTX 1060, 6 GB GDDR5, 1TB HDD, 500 GB 970 EVO Plus NVMe M.2 SSD, Windows 10/64, A10-C, Rhino X55, Persian Golf, F/A-18 Hornet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiny Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 You fly the AoA indexer and the ball (IFLOLS) until the back wheel touches the deck. Once the wheel contacts the deck, go burner and you either already caught the wire or you haven't. That or you completely overshoot or you get the wave-off lights, then immediately go burner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paura19 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Yeah I got EGIW even when I am pulling the throttle forward before touchdown. :noexpression: MB2 Czech DCS server. Youtube české Tutorialy Discrod MB2 1.Flight =UVP= Czech school of TOP GUN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrl11 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Try landing with the ball slightly high all the way down. It does not like when you are shallow, even a little. 1st vAEW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PL_Harpoon Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 I always had the feeling that the hornet has the tendency to drop the nose just before touchdown. Try anticipating it and be ready to pull the stick up just as you're about to touch the deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paura19 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 (edited) OK, I took these advice and run some tests Horrible landing - but _OK_ Nice landing - but EGIW Nice landing - _OK_ but full power jumps to 4wire Hold power in wires - but (EGIW) Perfect landing - _OK_ Wire3 - full throttle berofe touchdown :/ The conclusion for me is: - don't operate with throttle In Wires - before touchdown go full throttle There is a discrepancy from the manual: "Do not anticipate an arrested landing. When the aircraft touches down, advance the power to max and retract the speed brakes in anticipation of a bolter. " So it's not true. I must advance throttle before touchdown. Bonus - One turn landing - _OK_ Edited July 26, 2020 by paura19 MB2 Czech DCS server. Youtube české Tutorialy Discrod MB2 1.Flight =UVP= Czech school of TOP GUN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majapahit Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 OK, I took these advice and run some tests Horrible landing - but _OK_ Nice landing - but EGIW Nice landing - _OK_ but full power jumps to 4wire Hold power in wires - but (EGIW) Perfect landing - _OK_ Wire3 - full throttle berofe touchdown :/ The conclusion for me is: - don't operate with throttle In Wires - before touchdown go full throttle There is a discrepancy from the manual: "Do not anticipate an arrested landing. When the aircraft touches down, advance the power to max and retract the speed brakes in anticipation of a bolter. " So it's not true. I must advance throttle before touchdown. Bonus - One turn landing - _OK_ What I do not get is people not having their ICLS on (maybe sharper view not flying VR coming to think of it). Good post. | VR goggles | Autopilot panel | Headtracker | TM HOTAS | G920 HOTAS | MS FFB 2 | Throttle Quadrants | 8600K | GTX 1080 | 64GB RAM| Win 10 x64 | Voicerecognition | 50" UHD TV monitor | 40" 1080p TV monitor | 2x 24" 1080p side monitors | 24" 1080p touchscreen | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harker Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 OK, I took these advice and run some tests .... Good tests (and landings). I also found out that in order to not get an EGIW and at the same time catch a 3 wire, you need to land with the ball dropping just before touchdown and go full power, before your wheels touch the deck. Not the way I was used to, but this is what's required for _OK_ 3. What I do not get is people not having their ICLS on (maybe sharper view not flying VR coming to think of it). Good post. You don't need ICLS for CASE I, if you fly the numbers. You can use it if it helps you in the final turn, but you're already so close at this point that it can be more of a distraction than a helper, since you're supposed to only fly the ball as soon as you can see it. The vCVW-17 is looking for Hornet and Tomcat pilots and RIOs. Join the vCVW-17 Discord. F/A-18C, F-15E, AV-8B, F-16C, JF-17, A-10C/CII, M-2000C, F-14, AH-64D, BS2, UH-1H, P-51D, Sptifire, FC3 - i9-13900K, 64GB @6400MHz RAM, 4090 Strix OC, Samsung 990 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PL_Harpoon Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 You don't need ICLS for CASE I, if you fly the numbers. You can use it if it helps you in the final turn, but you're already so close at this point that it can be more of a distraction than a helper, since you're supposed to only fly the ball as soon as you can see it. I agree 100%. I use ICLS to help me line up on final but once I'm within 1nm I ignore it completely. I often got waved off when I tried to follow it to the deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majapahit Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 (edited) I agree 100%. I use ICLS to help me line up on final but once I'm within 1nm I ignore it completely. I often got waved off when I tried to follow it to the deck. Every boat trapping is high risk, for the boat in particular. I doubt if the ships boss agrees that 'pilots do not need ICLS when landing', or cares about that opinion unless the ICLS is out for maintenance. Edited July 27, 2020 by majapahit | VR goggles | Autopilot panel | Headtracker | TM HOTAS | G920 HOTAS | MS FFB 2 | Throttle Quadrants | 8600K | GTX 1080 | 64GB RAM| Win 10 x64 | Voicerecognition | 50" UHD TV monitor | 40" 1080p TV monitor | 2x 24" 1080p side monitors | 24" 1080p touchscreen | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmedges Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 I found that if advance the throttle to mil or higher right before touchdown then it doesn't complain about cutting the throttle. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Allied Air Command Website | Allied Air Command Discord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stearmandriver Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 This is the biggest problem with the supercarrier LSO right here, this false EGIW grading. Yes, you can often trick him into not giving you that grade by advancing throttles before touchdown... but that's not correct. I've taken to using the Airboss LSO grading and pretty much ignoring the boat grading for now, since at least the Airboss LSO grading makes sense, and I'd rather not destabilize a good pass with a power addition in close just to trick the boat LSO into a grade I should have gotten anyway ;). Sure hope this gets addressed soon though; would be nice to not need a script for such an integral part of the carrier experience as pass grading! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vCSG3 Bloat 203 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 at the risk of threadomancy, this problem is still alive and well... 2 :pilotfly: BrotherBloat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stearmandriver Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Is the fact that this post was moved to the Bugs section an admission that this is, in fact, a bug? I think we can all see that it is, but ED has steadfastly refused to acknowledge it, all the (many) times it's been brought up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeatServo Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Whats really going to throw you for a loop is the server log has a completely different log of your score than one displayed client side. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] ATPL - B737 - Class I Instructor Rating - Seaplane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nealius Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, MeatServo said: Whats really going to throw you for a loop is the server log has a completely different log of your score than one displayed client side. Real-time results between the server and clients differ as well. Many a time I have seen the client get an OK Underline while the server gave a cut pass or no grade. It turns up in the track files as well. Edited January 21, 2021 by Nealius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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