GKOver Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 The are several videos available in the internet showing harriers bowing while VSTOL and without moving at the same time. But... how is that possible? I have an idea (with nozzle at maximum) but it is not working for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kengou Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 I imagine nozzles from 82 to 90 or so and pitch down, but probably takes a lot of practice to get it right. Virpil WarBRD | Thrustmaster Hornet Grip | Foxx Mount | Thrustmaster TWCS Throttle | Logitech G Throttle Quadrant | VKB T-Rudder IV | TrackIR 5 AMD Ryzen 5 3600 | Nvidia GTX 1060 6GB | 32GB DDR4 3200 | SSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Exulte Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 Yep. Nozzles can swing past 82' obviously. It's just a matter of balancing everything. Де вороги, знайдуться козаки їх перемогти. 5800x3d * 3090 * 64gb * Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyJWest Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 without moving at the same time... I think the answer is that they are actually moving. Just not enough to be obvious. If you start in a stationary hover, and 'bow down' significantly, you are going to move forward, even if you swing the nozzles to the 99° position as you do so. Moving the nozzles maybe a second or so earlier will start you moving backwards though, so by the time you've finished your 'bow' you won't have gained so much forward momentum. That seemed to work for me, though I didn't put much effort into doing it with any precision - I'm still working on the more fundamental aspects of hovering, and was happy enough to convince myself it could be done. It's probably worth looking at your attempts in replay, from an external view. Even looking at it side on, where fore-aft movement will be most apparent, unless you are really close to the ground (not a good idea for this manoeuvre) any such movement probably won't seem as pronounced as it is in-cockpit. Which goes for hovering in general, really - it almost always looks worse in cockpit than it does from outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tea_cypher Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 I rember hearing, that IRL they would start moving backwards a little befor doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyJWest Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 I rember hearing, that IRL they would start moving backwards a little befor doing it. Yup. I had another go yesterday, and a little rearward movement at the start seemed to make it work better. The other thing you need to do is add power as you start to go nose-down - if you don't, you'll lose height. From what I can remember, pilot's demonstrating this seem generally not to try to return into a level hover. Instead, they pull up beyond horizontal, and climb away forwards (presumably with nozzles moved to less than the 82-degree level hover position). Probably easier than reestablishing a flat hover, and more impressive looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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