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So my 6+ yr old computer doesn't turn on. I tried switching out power supply, memory, and disconnecting all drives etc, computer doesn't turn on any more. Last week end when I turned it on it promptly shut itself off. It was a intel 4690k, an asus 97a MOBO, with a nvidia 1080. I am thinking the MOBO has died. So I would like to replace MOBO, CPU, Memory with current tech. I would like to try to use my nvidia 1080 as it's only a year and a half old, is that a bad idea?

 

I want to play DCS and IL2 in VR with this new computer, can you guys point me to a CPU/MOBO combo as well as give advise on whether it's okay or not to try to reuse hard drives, case, and video card? Would like to not spend more than $1k but could spend up to $2k if necessary

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i5-10600k, Z490 board of your choice, DDR4 3200 or better. That's well under $1k if you reuse the rest of the stuff. The gtx 1080 will be the bottleneck for VR but a new generation of GPU's is coming very soon so I recommend waiting a little before replacing that part.

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Yes that is why I want to reuse the graphics card if I can, that and I won't be buying a version set until next year, I only have so much $. Is overclocking a must? I have to admit that although I intended to overclock my computer, I never got around to it as everything ran good enough.


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Yes that is why I want to reuse the graphics card if I can, that and I won't be buying a version set until next year, I only have so much $. Is overclocking a must? I have to admit that although I intended to overclock my computer, I never got around to it as everything ran good enough.

For DCS single core GHz is important, so a nice intel K processor with a proper motherboard suitable for OC should be bought.

Two years ago I bought a tight-budget rig and now I´m stuck with an average board and non-Ocable cpu.

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i5-10600k, Z490 board of your choice, DDR4 3200 or better. That's well under $1k if you reuse the rest of the stuff. The gtx 1080 will be the bottleneck for VR but a new generation of GPU's is coming very soon so I recommend waiting a little before replacing that part.

Perfect advise.

Just do that and don´t look back.

But first revise your power suply: It´s important not to kill another Mobo.

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I just bought a new power supply to see if my PSU had died, it came with a special adapter to check that the PSU is working, using that adapter both PSU turned on. My plan is to use the PSU i just bought, although i did hook it up in the computer, when i pressed power buttons nothing happened. So my hope was that the new PSU could be used

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i5-10600k, Z490 board of your choice, DDR4 3200 or better. That's well under $1k if you reuse the rest of the stuff. The gtx 1080 will be the bottleneck for VR but a new generation of GPU's is coming very soon so I recommend waiting a little before replacing that part.

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My old PSU is an EVGA 750 watt certified plus gold, the new one i bought is a seasonic 750 watt certified plus gold as well. Are these high enough quality?

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This x1000

 

With consoles coming out with 8 cores, will the upcoming games move to 8 cores? Shouldn't i pick a 8 core processor for future?

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Use the link below to spec out something. It's kind of like a build your own scenario. You should be able to get a good handle on equipment and pricing through this site which offers clickable links to vendors; Amazon, B&H etc.

At the very least, this should provide you with a reference point in matching up your existing hardware with new hardware.

 

 

 

 

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My old PSU is an EVGA 750 watt certified plus gold, the new one i bought is a seasonic 750 watt certified plus gold as well. Are these high enough quality?

All Seasonic PSUs are top quality (A gold one might be better than some platinum from other vendors).

EVGA, Corsair, etc have some good PSUs but not all of their lineup. (They keep improving over the years though.) But you can trust on that Seasonic for the rest of your life.

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My old PSU is an EVGA 750 watt certified plus gold, the new one i bought is a seasonic 750 watt certified plus gold as well. Are these high enough quality?

 

It's a good device but not a top tier product. Look at the Warranty, top tier has 10-12 years warranty, good ones 7 years, medium 5 years and anything below 5 years is borderline dangerous for anything but an 105w Office PC imho.

 

Seasonic is w/o any doubt one of the best PSU makers...and they make them themselves.

 

My choices lately were all Seasonic Prime Platinum ( 650-850w range )and 1 Gold one ( 400w iirc ).

 

There are other good brands out there but many of them do not build the PSU themselves but rebrand them, like Corsair, bequiet, CoolerMaster, Antec, Enermax, etc etc.

 

Good makers are among others: Seasonic, Flextronics, SuperFlower ( those usually build PSU's for the names we all know...Corsair, Enermax, etc...)

 

 

My Tip, don't cut corners when buying a PSU for a PC that has a 500+$ GPU, plenty RAM, a costly CPU and what not else. For a 350$ Office PC a HEC-PSU with 175w is ok...just not for a gaming rig

 

 

http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/PSUReviewDatabase.html PSU Database


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The seasonic that i bought has a 10 year warranty, 750 watts, glod plus certification. Seems to meet what you say to me.

 

Will the 10600k, with its 6 cores, work for games optimized for 8 cores? I dont know if hyperthreading will make up for the less cores. Is it likely that games will be optimized for 8 cores since the major consoles will use 8? Or are flight sims and other games very far from becoming optimized on more than 6 cores?

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With consoles coming out with 8 cores, will the upcoming games move to 8 cores? Shouldn't i pick a 8 core processor for future?

 

I often read this opinion on the forums. There's roughly 200 million consoles from the previous gen still out there. I really don't think Microsoft and Sony will completely abandon that market and only make games that are compatible with and perform properly on the new consoles. Although, I'm sure there will be a few exclusives that may benefit from the extra cores.

 

I think it will be a good 2-3 years before you'll need an 8c/16t CPU to play games, 6c/12t will be fine and the next gen of Intel's CPUs should be compatible with the Z490 boards so you'll have that option down the road.

 

That being said, from what I read online the kids these days like to stream on Twitch, watch a video on YT, keep Discord open, and listen to Spotify all at the same time while gaming so it might help for that. I don't stream and just use an old tablet as an extra screen for checklists, Chuck's guides, and other reference materials.

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With actual experience being indistinguishable between Blue vs Red, with all things being equal, why go intel. It looks like you arent one to buy the newest thing thats released and the better choice is a Ryzen based system. I'd wait for Zen3 Vermeer later this year.

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obviously im not one to constantly upgrade things. Im not into multi tasking while playing games. Waiting is hard when i dont have a working computer now. You are telling me to wait 3-4 months with nothing but my phone for internet access. That's not going to be easy.

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Every 6 months there is a new and shiny CPU, GPU or whatever to buy, so: you decide.

Right now (and for DCS), I´ll go with an Intel thing. (And only basing me on the coments on this same forum and being up to date on the hardware side of things).

 

Probably I´ll change my buying decision on a Ryzen3 in three months, but you will be very happy with an actual Intel right now and forget the 5% speed increase waiting those 3 months.

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I haven't priced things out yet, but im leaning towards the intel i7 10700 (simply for future proofing with its 8 cores, trying to use my old nvidia 1080 (which i dont know if its good still) until the 30x series releases, im not sure what ram speed to get but i want 32Gb.

 

Am i on a good track?

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I just read that the nvidia 3000 series cards are likely going to be pcie 4.0...this makes me wonder. Will I need instead to get a pcie 4.0 compatible CPU to get full performance out of the 3070?

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Here is my current build list, please critic and advise planning on running 1440p till i get a 3000 series GPU and VR:

 

Noctua NH-U12A, Premium 120mm CPU cooler https://www.newegg.com/noctua-nh-u12a/p/13C-0005-00187?item=9SIAGKCBN35857

 

CORSAIR Vengeance LPX (2 x 32GB) DDR4 3600 CMK64GX4M2D3600C18 https://www.newegg.com/corsair-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820236592?item=N82E16820236592

 

MSI MAG Z490 TOMAHAWK LGA 1200 https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144303?item=N82E16813144303

 

Intel Core i7-10700K Comet Lake 8-Core https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i7-10700k-core-i7-10th-gen/p/N82E16819118123?item=N82E16819118123

 

SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2 2280 1TB PCIe Gen 3.0 x4, NVMe (https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-plus-1tb/p/N82E16820147743?item=N82E16820147743 already bought 1)

 

Seasonic FOCUS GX-750, 750W 80+ Gold, Full-Modular, 10 Year Warranty, (https://www.newegg.com/seasonic-focus-plus-750-gold-ssr-750fx-750w/p/N82E16817151187?item=N82E16817151187 already bought 1)

 

MSI GeForce GTX 1080 DirectX 12 GAMING 8G (https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-gtx-1080-gtx-1080-gaming-8g/p/N82E16814127950?item=N82E16814127950 hoping to salvage from my current computer)

 

Cooler Master HAF 912 - Mid Tower Case with High Airflow (https://www.newegg.com/black-cooler-master-haf-series-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811119233?item=N82E16811119233 hoping to salvage from my current computer)

 

SAMSUNG 860 EVO Series 2.5" 1TB SATA III (https://www.newegg.com/samsung-860-evo-series-1tb/p/N82E16820147673?item=N82E16820147673 to salvage from my current computer)

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Technical:

 

* The timings on that particular RAM could be better. You want CL16 @ 3600 (16-16-16-3X) or CL14 @ 3200 (14-14-14-3X)

 

 

If you want to save a few bucks:

 

* For the NVME drives consider other brands. I am a fan of ADATA. It is considered "off-brand" and some people don't like that. I've been using their higher end and mainstream stuff in my home lab for the last 4-5 years without issue. That's like 6-7 NVME drives and SSDs. Certainly seems fine to me. There's other brands; I just started with ADATA because they had the best "bench racing" numbers at the time. I also have some HP NVMEs as well. Solid state stuff is much more reliable than old fashioned spindles - besides - you have backups, right? Do your own research regarding brands and stuff.

 

If you are chasing the PCI 4 thing and trying to future proof - don't bother. Those are bench racing numbers to chase again - doesn't really matter in the real world. Today PCI 3 is more than enough bandwidth to saturate the video pipeline and for storage you'd never notice the difference while sitting in front of the computer.

 

You could also make the same argument on SSD vs NVME (Worth going to NVME?) but since this is a new build and NVME is mature and more elegant than SSD I'd always say go NVME. In my home lab I went as far as to add PCI add in cards to my systems in open frames to avoid having extra SATA cables and crap in the rigs. (sounds exotic - it's not - just 8-10 year old HP SFF workstations ripped out of their cases and turned into Docker/Kuberbetes clusters - much more bang for the buck than Raspberry Pis even if more expensive!)

 

 

* 2 drives? Why?

 

If you are looking to have clean dual booting in to Linux/FreeBSD/MacOS/whatever on the other device then sure but if this is just going to be a Windows box... 1TB probably will be enough to start.

 

Also, you can add a second NVME later if you really need it (motherboard supports 2?). By that time maybe you can get 2TB for 1 current 1TB prices or at least closer to SSD prices.

 

If you aren't convinced consider going to a 2TB NVME. :)

 

 

* You could consider only going to 32 GB initially (2 x 16GB). I don't think DCS will need more than 32GB for quite a while in spite of the new maps . Nothing is going to change with respect to 'DCS core' any time soon and if/when it does we will be a number of years in the future and looking at a new upgrade cycle and/or whatever new changes have arrived will likely be more optimized and use less RAM (DCS' footprint is kinda ridiculous - I mean that in the best possible way).

 

 

 

 

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Ive been having trouble finding CL16 memory on the motherboard's QVL. I hope to get a second nvme at some point but i dont see a reason to right now. The list stuff to be bought above is around $990.

 

I found this memory but not sure its on the QVL:

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232907?item=N82E16820232907


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FWIW, I ordered mine (CL14) on NewEgg. Arrived in 4-5 business days IIRC.

 

Everything else I bought local - low CL RAM was the only thing I couldn't find locally or it would be a special order with unknown/dumb estimated delivery times

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So ive priced out both a ryzen 3700x build ($970) and an intel 10700k

build ($830), so the intel is actually cheaper due to sales that end today so I am going with that

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