ED Team BIGNEWY Posted July 18, 2020 ED Team Share Posted July 18, 2020 Hi all Today I updated windows 10 to the new feature update Windows 10 version 2004 I had a massive FPS decrease and was scratching my head a little, after some troubleshooting I re-applied my NVIDIA settings in the NVIDIA control panel and all was back to normal. Just wanted to share that with you in case it is not something you have tried if you are seeing low frame rates after windows 10 feature update. Thanks Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svsmokey Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Thanks ! 9700k @ stock , Aorus Pro Z390 wifi , 32gb 3200 mhz CL16 , 1tb EVO 970 , MSI RX 6800XT Gaming X TRIO , Seasonic Prime 850w Gold , Coolermaster H500m , Noctua NH-D15S , CH Pro throttle and T50CM2/WarBrD base on Foxxmounts , CH pedals , Reverb G2v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted July 18, 2020 Author ED Team Share Posted July 18, 2020 Also Using the new windows 10 hardware accelerated GPU Scheduling created stutter in VR for my machine. Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmiefel Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 Also Using the new windows 10 hardware accelerated GPU Scheduling created stutter in VR for my machine. Many thanks for these informations. As this latest feature update is now finally available for my PC I was thinking about updating if it will make things - and esp. DCS - run better. Seems it would be better to stay with 1909 feature version for now? And could you tell if and where this GPU scheduler could be disabled? Primary for DCS and other flightsims: i9 12900K@default OC on MSI Z790 Tomahawk (MS-7D91) | 64 GB DDR5-5600 | Asus TUF RTX3090 Gaming OC | 1x 38"@3840x1600 | 1x 27"@2560x1440 | Windows10Pro64 Spoiler Secondary: i7 11700k@5.1GHz on MSI Z590 Gaming Force MB| 64 GB DDR4-3200 | PowerColor RX6900XTU Red Devil | 1x 32"@2560*1440 + 1x24"@1980*1200 | Windows10Pro64 Backup: i7 6700K@4.8GHz | 64 GB DDR4-2400 | PowerColor RX5700XT Red Devil | SSD-500/1000GB | 1x49" 32:9 Asus X49VQ 3840x1080 | Windows10Pro64 Flightsim Input Devices: VPC: ACE2 Rudder / WarBRD Base / T-50CM2 Base with 50mm ext. / Alpha-R, Mongoos T-50CM, WarBRD and VFX Grip / T-50CM3 Throttle | VPC Sharka-50 + #2 Controle Panel | TM Cougar MFD-Frames| Rift S - Secondary: TM HOTAS WARTHOG/Cougar Throttle+Stick, F-18-Grip | TM TPR Rudder | DelanClip/PS3-CAM IR-Tracker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted July 19, 2020 Author ED Team Share Posted July 19, 2020 Many thanks for these informations. As this latest feature update is now finally available for my PC I was thinking about updating if it will make things - and esp. DCS - run better. Seems it would be better to stay with 1909 feature version for now? And could you tell if and where this GPU scheduler could be disabled? Now I have had time to tweak and try the features my FPS is back up to normal, so 2004 update is good for me as long as I dont use hardware accelerated GPU Scheduling, and after re-applying my NVIDIA settings. Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toutenglisse Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 Also, on my computer, with GPU scheduling activated and correspounding nvidia driver installed, I had A LOT of graphic driver crashes in several games/sim. Why a no go for me (I've not noticed framerate/stutters issues but maybe there were). Since then no issues (GPU scheduling deactivated). Schmiefel this option is not activated by default - to directly open the window where it's located, I write "paramètres graphiques" (graphical parameters ?) in windows search bar - first result displayed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustang Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 Been using GPU scheduling in 2004 with my 2080 RTX with no issues, streaming, VR etc what display driver are you people using? 451.67 here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 2004 with my warthog HOTAS won't let my PC sleep or even just let the screen timeout unless I unplug it. The problem irritated me so much I rolled back to 1909. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverdevil Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 i checked my settings this morning and GPU scheduling was not enabled. i did not make this change so it must have, on my machine, not enabled at the point of 2004 update. to reiterate toutenglisse's observation and suggestion. AKA_SilverDevil AKA Forums My YouTube “It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.” — Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrl11 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 BIGNEWY, What are your NVIDIA settings? Was there one in particular that brought the frame rates up? thanks. 1st vAEW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpipe Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 Now I have had time to tweak and try the features my FPS is back up to normal, so 2004 update is good for me as long as I dont use hardware accelerated GPU Scheduling, and after re-applying my NVIDIA settings. Interesting, as i had only gone as far as to default my nvidia CP settings so maybe i will try setting them again and see if it holds performance in DCS. Thanks for this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lange_666 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 2004 with my warthog HOTAS won't let my PC sleep or even just let the screen timeout unless I unplug it. The problem irritated me so much I rolled back to 1909. Happens with other stuff then the Warthog too: https://forum.virpil.com/index.php?/topic/1868-virpil-devices-not-letting-pc-sleep-after-2004-update/ Win11 Pro 64-bit, Ryzen 5800X3D, Corsair H115i, Gigabyte X570S UD, EVGA 3080Ti XC3 Ultra 12GB, 64 GB DDR4 G.Skill 3600. Monitors: LG 27GL850-B27 2560x1440 + Samsung SyncMaster 2443 1920x1200, HOTAS: Warthog with Virpil WarBRD base, MFG Crosswind combat pedals, TrackIR4, Rift-S. Personal Wish List: A6 Intruder, Vietnam theater, decent ATC module, better VR performance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Happens with other stuff then the Warthog too: https://forum.virpil.com/index.php?/topic/1868-virpil-devices-not-letting-pc-sleep-after-2004-update/ Good to know thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worrazen Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Yep that's why Windows updates are disliked a lot in the power user community. I'll be moving to a freshly installed Windows 10 with Update build of 1809 (permanently unless I install another version specifically, I don't do updates on an already deployed install), fully debloated and optimized for gaming/dev, a good comparison for DCS troubleshooting versus most of the community that moves to the latest updates. Modules: A-10C I/II, F/A-18C, Mig-21Bis, M-2000C, AJS-37, Spitfire LF Mk. IX, P-47, FC3, SC, CA, WW2AP, CE2. Terrains: NTTR, Normandy, Persian Gulf, Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted July 20, 2020 Author ED Team Share Posted July 20, 2020 Been using GPU scheduling in 2004 with my 2080 RTX with no issues, streaming, VR etc what display driver are you people using? 451.67 here. 451.67 here also, as soon as I turn on GPU scheduling VR stutters and my frame rate dumps Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worrazen Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 That's expected actually, the feature has to be supported by the whole pipeline and it was said officially this is only preliminary and the benefits of this will mostly be seen in the future. Modules: A-10C I/II, F/A-18C, Mig-21Bis, M-2000C, AJS-37, Spitfire LF Mk. IX, P-47, FC3, SC, CA, WW2AP, CE2. Terrains: NTTR, Normandy, Persian Gulf, Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YSIAD_RIP Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Windows 10 with Feature Update 2004 and AMD Radeon Vega 56/64 Thanks to this BIGNEWY Post, I confirmed a similar performance issue with my AMD Vega 56 Bios flashed to Vega 64. Currently using the Latest Radeon 20.7.2 Drivers (NO support for GPU SCHEDULING) There is a Radeon 20.5.1 Beta with GPU SCHEDULING, but I do not want to use a beta driver. After Applying the Windows 10 2004 Feature update, I noticed a 7-15 FPS drop in performance. I did my benchmarks using F-86 and F-14 cold-start in the Caucasus map and testing with F-16 Normandy Free Flight. Long Story short: I used the Windows 10 Recovery Option and went back to the previous version of Windows 10 1909. I will wait for future Radeon Driver Updates and Test GPU Scheduling On/Off when AMD makes that feature available in the next non-Beta Graphics Driver. Cheers. Do not own: | F-15E | JF-17 | Fw 190 A-8 | Bf 109 | Hardware: [ - Ryzen7-5800X - 32GB - RX 6800 - X56 HOTAS Throttle - WINWING Orion 2 F16EX Grip - TrackIR 5 - Tobii 5C - JetPad FSE - ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javelina1 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Been using GPU scheduling in 2004 with my 2080 RTX with no issues, streaming, VR etc what display driver are you people using? 451.67 here. same here, using 451.67 and the GPU scheduling enabled as well. No issues with VR, games, or anything else... MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenmamba Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Latest windows 10 update and DCS performance Hello community, I installed the latest Windows 10 update today, it was a big one I guess since it made restart my computer several times. Following that my DCS world experience has encountered some major performance issues. The loading time has significantly increased and I encounter a noticeable FPS loss. Do you guys have a solution or is it a temporary issue with every Windows 10 major update ? I was so happy with the latest update of DCS world, a lot of background work has been done and performance wise you can feel it .... now I feel that windows 10 just made everything hard to enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svsmokey Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=281151 9700k @ stock , Aorus Pro Z390 wifi , 32gb 3200 mhz CL16 , 1tb EVO 970 , MSI RX 6800XT Gaming X TRIO , Seasonic Prime 850w Gold , Coolermaster H500m , Noctua NH-D15S , CH Pro throttle and T50CM2/WarBrD base on Foxxmounts , CH pedals , Reverb G2v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenmamba Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Thanks brother ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Zach Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 What do you mean by "re-applied"? Were your Nvidia settings reset to default? Sent from my SM-A715F using Tapatalk Hardware: T-50 Mongoose, VKB STECS, Saitek 3 Throttle Quadrant, Homemade 32-function Leo Bodnar Button Box, MFG Crosswind Pedals Oculus Rift S System Specs: MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS, RTX 3090, Ryzen 7 5800X3D, 32GB DDR4-3200, Samsung 860 EVO, Samsung 970 EVO 250GB Modules: AH-64D, Ka-50, Mi-8MTV2, F-16C, F-15E, F/A-18C, F-14B, F-5E, P-51D, Spitfire Mk LF Mk. IXc, Bf-109K-4, Fw-190A-8 Maps: Normandy, Nevada, Persian Gulf, Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornelius Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 I was also wondering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sniperwolfpk5 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Hi all Today I updated windows 10 to the new feature update Windows 10 version 2004 I had a massive FPS decrease and was scratching my head a little, after some troubleshooting I re-applied my NVIDIA settings in the NVIDIA control panel and all was back to normal. Just wanted to share that with you in case it is not something you have tried if you are seeing low frame rates after windows 10 feature update. Thanks What do you mean by "re-applied"? Were your Nvidia settings reset to default? Sent from my SM-A715F using Tapatalk I have same question. What to do with Nvidia settings should I reset to default or what. @BIGNEWY what you have done with Nvidia settings. Please explain Win10, Intel 3rd Gen. Core i7 3.8Ghz, 20GB ram, Nvidia Geforce 1060 6GB Opentrack (Download it from HERE), PS3 Eye, Saitek x52-pro Joystick, DIY Rudder Pedals, Google Cardboard with DCS World English is not my native language Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted July 21, 2020 Author ED Team Share Posted July 21, 2020 What do you mean by "re-applied"? Were your Nvidia settings reset to default? Sent from my SM-A715F using Tapatalk I had not changed my NVIDIA settings at all, they were setup how I always have them. But after the windows update I had huge problems which went away after just re-applying the same unchanged NVIDIA Settings. Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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