German bomber (at least AI)

[wolle]

Please make the Ju-88 able to drop iron bombs (not just torpedos), or add another German bomber to the asset pack. Without a German bomber, WWII missions are severely hampered. ..

[rayrayblues]

On 6/27/2020 at 8:59 AM, wolle said:

Please make the Ju-88 able to drop iron bombs (not just torpedos), or add another German bomber to the asset pack. Without a German bomber, WWII missions are severely hampered. ..

 

 I agree. +1

What we really need, especially with The Channel map, is the Heinkel He-111 and the Junkers Ju-87 Stuka dive bomber.

These were used extensively during the battle of Britain and the famous night raids on London were carried out by the 111.

Right now we have no German bombers in the game.

The Ju-88 is primarily a torpedo plane or heavy fighter, although it could carry bombs

It would be nice to have something in a large formation to shoot at.

Edited December 28, 2020 by rayrayblues
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[Mogster]

That’s the thing about BOB scenarios, you can created realistic missions with a relatively small plan set. Hurri, Spit MK1, He111, Ju87, Me109E, Me110.

[Rakkis]

+1 Axis really needs a level bomber AI Asset. Iron Bomb Ju-88 would be an "easy" quick fix, He-111 ideally in the long run.

[Brigg]

Yeah an AI German level bomber is a necessity for the WW2 Assets Pack and not really sure why there is not already one. 

Edited January 16 by Brigg

[philstyle]

yes please. adding level bombing capability to the AI JU88 would make a big difference.

[rhinofilms]

+1. Would make so much sense to have flyable bombers with historically accurate bombsites and the ability to jump into turrets to fire at fighters, but if that's too ambitious at least balance the ME with German bombers that can bomb.

[Nealius]

Also nerf the godlike Ju-88 AI tail gunners. They have higher accuracy than a modern jet's Vulcan cannon. 

Edited January 31 by Nealius

[Pikey]

+1 German AI target bombers please. The current Ju is great but its for torpedos.

[Northstar98]

+1 Ju-88 A-4 should have a bombing capability (bomb bay doors are animated in the modelviewer).

 

But yes, a He 111 H-xx would be fantastic, as would a Fw 200 C-3/C-4. 

[71st_AH Rob]

Turning the Ju-88 into a true bomber is an easy win but effort on the He-111 would not be a great investment right now.  The maps we have are firmly set in 1944 and by 1943 the 111 was so outclassed that it was relegated to a transport role and ironically a torpedo bomber.

 

If they are going to invest the effort in creating a new axis bomber, a Ju-188 would be a better option I that.

[Mogster]

3 hours ago, 71st_AH Rob said:

Turning the Ju-88 into a true bomber is an easy win but effort on the He-111 would not be a great investment right now.  The maps we have are firmly set in 1944 and by 1943 the 111 was so outclassed that it was relegated to a transport role and ironically a torpedo bomber.

 

If they are going to invest the effort in creating a new axis bomber, a Ju-188 would be a better option I that.

Why? After the Ju88 the He111 was the most produced German bomber though, still in production to the point when piston bomber production was halted in late 1944. It could legitimately be present in any mission where a German bomber could turn up, BOB, Channel, Eastern front, Med right through the war. The 188 didn’t replace the Ju88, not many were made and if the squadrons were allocated any they’d be left in a corner and used for special missions requiring more speed and altitude like solo reconnaissance. By the time they were allocated to squadrons upgraded Ju88 versions were available that meant it wasn’t really much better.

[rayrayblues]

3 hours ago, 71st_AH Rob said:

The maps we have are firmly set in 1944

 

I disagree. The maps don't really have dates and times on them. They're just maps.

You can set any scenarios that you want with the ME. I am currently using The Channel Map for the new WW1 mod.

The grass aerodromes Hawkinge and Lympne are a very close representation of what they had back then.

There were no paved runways yet, so as you can see, using your imagination, the maps are pretty much generic.

 

3 hours ago, 71st_AH Rob said:

If they are going to invest the effort in creating a new axis bomber, a Ju-188 would be a better option I that.

 

Now this is a good idea. The more the merrier. If I want to set a 1940/41 BOB scenario, the He-111's and Ju-87 Stukas are necessary,

and while we're at it, there is also a need for Hurricanes and early Spits.

For later 1943/44 scenarios yes the Ju-188's and FW-200's would fill the bill, as would the Me-264. 

Bottom line though is that there currently are no German bombers in the game which for me at least, leaves a big hole to fill.

 

As for the Ju-88 torpedo planes, I don't see any WWll ships to attack, or am I missing something?

[Pikey]

aye, we are currently very late war, for no other reason that what models they found first in TFC. I would prefer consistentcy in the matchups and work back. It's sad to see that a Hurricane gets put at the back of any queue by those "rules" but we have what we have and should use it and be as consistent as is possible before being imaginative.