nick10 Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 Currently sizing up a new build and the suggestion is: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6Ghz 6 Core 12 Thread AM4 Retail Box - With Wraith Stealth Cooler Gigabyte B450M DS3H AM4 mATX Desktop Motherboard Corsair 16GB Kit (2x8GB) DDR4 Vengeance LPX Black C16 3200Mhz WD Blue 1TB 3D NAND M.2 SSD Gigabyte GeForce GTX1660Ti OC 6GB GDDR6 Deepcool Earlkase RGB White Mid Tower Silverstone Essential Series 550W 80Plus Gold Semi- Modular Power Supply TP-LINK T4E AC1200 Wireless Dual Band PCIe Adapter Windows 10 Home OEM 64-Bit DVD Opinions appreciated cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudel_chw Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 Seems well balanced, I don’t know if your budget allows, but 16 Gb is about the minimum for dcs, try for 32 GB instead. If the budget doesn’t allow, then I would go for a single 16GB dimm instead. It will disable memory dual channel, but it will make it easier to add another dimm later on, as reaching 32 GB with 4 dimms is hard to achieve sometimes without having to reduce the memory speed. For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600X - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia GTX1070ti - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar - Oculus Rift CV1 Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick10 Posted June 15, 2020 Author Share Posted June 15, 2020 Good tips thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David OC Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 "Gigabyte GeForce GTX1660Ti OC 6GB GDDR6" This card will only be OK... at 1080p. It's as good as the top card 2 generations ago etc. 980ti https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-980-Ti-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1660-Ti/3439vs4037 I would go a 2060 super or better (2070 super) myself and would allow mild VR and or 1440P monitor. https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-2060S-Super-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1660-Ti/4049vs4037 I would also go with a better and more powerful power supply for overclocking a little, but that's just me. i7-7700K OC @ 5Ghz | ASUS IX Hero MB | ASUS GTX 1080 Ti STRIX | 32GB Corsair 3000Mhz | Corsair H100i V2 Radiator | Samsung 960 EVO M.2 NVMe 500G SSD | Samsung 850 EVO 500G SSD | Corsair HX850i Platinum 850W | Oculus Rift | ASUS PG278Q 27-inch, 2560 x 1440, G-SYNC, 144Hz, 1ms | VKB Gunfighter Pro Chuck's DCS Tutorial Library Download PDF Tutorial guides to help get up to speed with aircraft quickly and also great for taking a good look at the aircraft available for DCS before purchasing. Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strong05 Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 Get a B550 or X570 mobo so that you can update your cpu later down the line if you choose. Mobo/CPU typically out last the GPU. GPU is also the easiest thing to upgrade in a few years. 5800X3d, 32GB DDR4@3400, 6800 xt, Reverb G2, Gunfighter/TMWH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick10 Posted June 16, 2020 Author Share Posted June 16, 2020 Ok another two 8gb sticks of ram to give me 32gb in total comes at an additional cost of $160 AUD. Am I gonna see that much difference for that? Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aluminum Donkey Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Currently sizing up a new build and the suggestion is: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6Ghz 6 Core 12 Thread AM4 Retail Box - With Wraith Stealth Cooler Gigabyte B450M DS3H AM4 mATX Desktop Motherboard Corsair 16GB Kit (2x8GB) DDR4 Vengeance LPX Black C16 3200Mhz WD Blue 1TB 3D NAND M.2 SSD Gigabyte GeForce GTX1660Ti OC 6GB GDDR6 Deepcool Earlkase RGB White Mid Tower Silverstone Essential Series 550W 80Plus Gold Semi- Modular Power Supply TP-LINK T4E AC1200 Wireless Dual Band PCIe Adapter Windows 10 Home OEM 64-Bit DVD Opinions appreciated cheers The processor has 6 cores, 12 threads, and a moderate clock speed. It's a lot of dough for average performance. You're better off with an Intel processor for DCS as long as it's a K type, it doesn't matter much (or at all) how many cores or threads it has. The graphics card you're looking at is a little pricey for average to mediocre performance in DCS. You'd be better off trying to find a GTX 1080, or 1080 Ti, used. The 1660 Ti is all right, but certainly not great, and they want a lot of bread for a GPU with only ~1500 CUDA cores. You'd be better off with twice as many, if you can find a card used/open box/black market etc. Your choice of RAM looks good, but you're much better off with a CPU that can be overclocked instead of one with lots of cores/threads and a moderate clock speed. Although the 3600 is pretty good and looks cost-effective, it won't run at 4.2 GHz with more than 1 thread. It'll probably only run at 3.6. Not bad, but not great. The i3-9350K has 4 cores & threads, and will probably overclock to 5.0 GHz or possibly more, and is roughly the same price. You'll need an overclocking motherboard to make full use of it (Z370/390.) AD Kit: B550 Aorus Elite AX V2, Ryzen 7 5800X w/ Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, 2 x 16GB Kingston Fury DDR4 @3600MHz C16, Gigabyte RTX 3070 Windforce 8GB, EVGA SuperNova 750 G2 PSU, HP Omen 32" 2560x1440, Thrustmaster Cougar HOTAS fitted with Leo Bodnar's BU0836A controller. --Flying is the art of throwing yourself at the ground, and having all the rules and regulations get in the way! If man was meant to fly, he would have been born with a lot more money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudel_chw Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Ok another two 8gb sticks of ram to give me 32gb in total comes at an additional cost of $160 AUD. Am I gonna see that much difference for that? . You wont get more fps, but I got a notable improvement in smoothness and much much less stuttering. Don’t use 4 sticks .. use 2 sticks of 16 GB, the cost should be about the same. I have a pretty old PC by now, but when I upgraded the ram from 16 to 32 GB I was so impressed with the smoothness that I recorded this video to show it off :) xGUWrJDOCQs Best regards. For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600X - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia GTX1070ti - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar - Oculus Rift CV1 Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick10 Posted June 16, 2020 Author Share Posted June 16, 2020 You wont get more fps, but I got a notable improvement in smoothness and much much less stuttering. Don’t use 4 sticks .. use 2 sticks of 16 GB, the cost should be about the same. I have a pretty old PC by now, but when I upgraded the ram from 16 to 32 GB I was so impressed with the smoothness that I recorded this video to show it off :) xGUWrJDOCQs Best regards. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 With a 1660 GPU you dont need to shoot for the highest clocking CPU unless you play at minumum LOD and lowest resolution. Imho, the 3600 is a solid choice. Invest in 32GB, that is something you will not regret. ...and maybe a better PSU for longevity and for the sake of hardware. Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VitS Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 With a 1660 GPU you dont need to shoot for the highest clocking CPU unless you play at minumum LOD and lowest resolution. Imho, the 3600 is a solid choice. Invest in 32GB, that is something you will not regret. ...and maybe a better PSU for longevity and for the sake of hardware. This is missleading. You can run absolutely lowest settings and still be cpu bound even with 1660. Graphics is not only thing DCS uses your CPU for. It needs to run scripts for all units on the map, it needs to calculate physics for all radars. And so on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 This is missleading. You can run absolutely lowest settings and still be cpu bound even with 1660. Graphics is not only thing DCS uses your CPU for. It needs to run scripts for all units on the map, it needs to calculate physics for all radars. And so on I disagree with misleading to some extend tho you are also not totally wrong. It rather leads to a well balanced system that will utilize CPU and GPU more or less equal up to their potential. Throwing in a 3900X or 9900k wont yield much more given the GPU used. I think 32GB would be the better option to spend another 70-90€. ...and I would really think about the B550 chipset option. Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick10 Posted June 20, 2020 Author Share Posted June 20, 2020 So what’s the verdict - 32 gb or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 32GB is the way to go Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick10 Posted June 20, 2020 Author Share Posted June 20, 2020 Ok thanks for help chaps I will likely pull the trigger on this now: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6Ghz 6 Core 12 Thread AM4 Retail Box - With Wraith Stealth Cooler Gigabyte B450M DS3H AM4 mATX Desktop Motherboard Corsair 32GB Kit (2x16GB) DDR4 Vengeance LPX Black C16 3200Mhz Gigabyte GeForce GTX1660Ti OC 6GB GDDR6 WD Blue 1TB 3D NAND M.2 SSD Deepcool Earlkase RGB White Mid Tower Silverstone Essential Series 550W 80Plus Gold Semi- Modular Power Supply Bykski RBW Controller And Lighting Pack (V3) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 How much Vram It seems dcs needs 8gb of Vram minimum how much Vram dose the 1660 have and will it be enough when 2080ti users are saying their 11gb is maxed out? How much Vram does DCS need particularly in Vr? I am leaving the Mac/Bootcamp world and would like to join the Vr world. So I to am purchasing a new flight sim rig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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