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Hello,

 

does distance from JTAC at mission start influence whether F4 JTAC Communication menu will be available?

 

If I start mission 10 NM from JTAC, everything is working perfectly. JTAC appears under F4 in Communication menu, comunicates, marks target etc,...

 

But if I start mission 85 NM from him, there is no JTAC in Communication menu at all, and it doesn´t appear even if I get closer.

 

See enclosed mission. JTAC is near Kobuleti. If you spawn at Kobuleti, JTAC menu is there. If you spawn at Nalchik, nothing (but F6 Tanker and F7 AWACS works).

 

Is this bug or feature? How can I make it work? Late activation once near or friendly AI aircraft flying nearby doesn´t work.

 

Thanks

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Radio frequencies do not penetrate land, since JTAC is on the ground, he can be behind a hill for example, in that case you wont be able to communicate to JTAC. If the line of sight is simulated in the game.

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AFAIK LOS is simulated.

 

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Well, that would be OK if F4 JTAC comm menu appears once player gets closer, but it doesn´t.

It seems player have to be within some distance from JTAC from the begining (spawn).

In earlier version of enclosed mission, JTAC was activated by trigger once in nearby zone. If player flies to that zone from Kobuleti, everything works flawlessly. If player flies to that zone from Nalchik, JTAC spawns (it is visible in F7 Ground unit view), but there is no F4 JTAC in comm menu.

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Aha. Get it.

I use VAICOM Pro, so I can call anything anytime, as long as I've got LOS and correctly tuned radio. But I see that it's not fisable to use voice comms/speech recogition in every situation.

 

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Well, that would be OK if F4 JTAC comm menu appears once player gets closer, but it doesn´t.

It seems player have to be within some distance from JTAC from the begining (spawn).

In earlier version of enclosed mission, JTAC was activated by trigger once in nearby zone. If player flies to that zone from Kobuleti, everything works flawlessly. If player flies to that zone from Nalchik, JTAC spawns (it is visible in F7 Ground unit view), but there is no F4 JTAC in comm menu.

Is it possible that the trigger is timebound and has therefore disabled by the time you get there

 

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Is it possible that the trigger is timebound and has therefore disabled by the time you get there

 

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No. It was simple trigger "once part of coalition in zone, activate ground group". And as said before, JTAC itself activated (it was visible by F7), but no F4 JTAC radio comm menu appeared.

 

It seems like LOS is checked only at the start of the mission, but there are no updates later. Maybe not even LOS*, but purely distance: players close enough get F4 JTAC menu, and others do not, even if they literally fly over the JTAC.

 

*JTAC menu works for players at ramp at Kobuleti, and there are plenty of hills, trees and buildings between them and JTAC, so no direct LOS.

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When I look at your mission map, I nowhere can find a JTAC !

Maybe I don`t understand your mission building.

Can you explain that to me ?

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When I look at your mission map, I nowhere can find a JTAC !

Maybe I don`t understand your mission building.

Can you explain that to me ?

 

JTAC is NNE of Kobuleti, as on map screenshot.

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This is what I see on your map NNE of K. No JTAC !

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This is what I see on your map NNE of K. No JTAC !

 

I am not at PC at the moment to check, but location of JTAC is clearly visible on screenshot on post #8. It may be hidden in original mission file in OP. It is definitely there, because it is in radio menu if spawned at Kutaisi.

Whole mission is ment to be radio comm and navigation practise. It has 5 parts. Part 1 is visual flight from Nalchik to Beslan. Part 2 is flying along waypoints to Tbilisi. Part 3 is escorting tanker to Kutaisi. Part 4 is locating ground target using JTAC and part 5 is locating air target using AWACS. Except of JTAC part, everything works.


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The JTAC unit is hidden in the mission. You can unhide it in the units list.

 

I tried the mission and JTAC does not come up if taking off from Nalchik in the F18 slot you have created there for some reason. I moved your test F18 to Nalchik and JTAC came up, so may be something to do with the slots you have created.

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The JTAC unit is hidden in the mission. You can unhide it in the units list.

 

I tried the mission and JTAC does not come up if taking off from Nalchik in the F18 slot you have created there for some reason. I moved your test F18 to Nalchik and JTAC came up, so may be something to do with the slots you have created.

 

That is interesting. It was ment as multiplayer mission for me and few friends, so all slots at Nalchik are "original ones", the slots at Kutaisi are only for trigger testing.

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Probably solved

 

Thank you for idea, m9matt! :thumbup:

 

In this particular case it seems that it is not about distance from JTAC, but about ORDER in which units were placed in mission editor. I have never encountered something similar before, but every player/client aircraft which I heve put in editor AFTER JTAC, does have JTAC in radio comm menu. Those which were there BEFORE JTAC, doesn´t.

 

 

**EDIT**

OK, another test proved that problem was not in ORDER, in which units were placed in mission editor, but in Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V. Every single added player/client group is OK, but once I have used Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V it somewow corrupted both copy and original group and there were no JTAC menu for them.


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