WingC3 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 Hi all, I'm not sure if this is a bug or what the root cause is: I was sitting on the ground at sochi with the engine and all other systems running while I was explaining some things to a friend who just got the viper. After about 15 minutes, I suddenly got a master caution and the annunciator panel showed the "elec sys" light. I lost all the secondary systems: Radar, HUD, etc. But, the engine was still running, and the lights were on. I shutdown the jet, and requested repair, but the aircraft was not seen to be damaged by the crew. However, restarting the engine, the main generator never came back online. Any idea what caused it? Did I inadvertently overheat something? If so, what was it, and how long can the jet be idled on the ground safely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MROK73 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 +1 Happened to me yesterday!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted December 28, 2019 ED Team Share Posted December 28, 2019 Please add a track replay when it happens, we will take a look. Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingC3 Posted December 28, 2019 Author Share Posted December 28, 2019 (edited) Please add a track replay when it happens, we will take a look. It occurs after my first sortie, when I'm sitting on the ramp in front of the other F-16. Not sure exactly how far in. https://drive.google.com/open?id=14zBxIw-K2Jn9aGq1nqO02cb7EXR5MRIo Edited December 28, 2019 by WingC3 added link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted December 28, 2019 ED Team Share Posted December 28, 2019 How do I do this when the track is larger than the rather small limit of the forum? Hi you can use a service like drop box or any other cloud service and link it. If it is a MP track and very large bare in mind they do not always replay correctly. Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingC3 Posted December 28, 2019 Author Share Posted December 28, 2019 Hi you can use a service like drop box or any other cloud service and link it. If it is a MP track and very large bare in mind they do not always replay correctly. Added link above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=Panther= Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 I've had it once, and I know one other person who had it as well. Don't have tracks, as I just thought I missed something. Twitch Channel [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Virtual Thunderbirds, LLC | Sponsored by Thrustmaster Z390 Aorus Xtreme, i9 9900k, G.SKILL TridentZ Series 32GB, 1080ti 11GB, Obutto R3Volution, Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog, TPR, Cougar MFDs, FSSB R3L, JetSeat, Oculus Rift S, Buddy-Fox A-10C UFC, F/A-18C UFC, Tek Creations F-16 ICP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3mta3 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 I've been waiting for someone else to mention this. Happened to me several times. Didn't save the tracks. Seems to be caused by running engine for quite a while on the ground. Generator fails, cannot be repaired. PC i7 7700k Gigabyte Z270 MSI GTX 1070 32gb DDR4 500gb EVO 850 SSD DCS 500gb EVO 960 NVMe SSD Windows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelGun Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Had it happen once as well. I tried shutting down and restarting with no luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingC3 Posted December 29, 2019 Author Share Posted December 29, 2019 Just in case you guys missed it: Track file link https://drive.google.com/open?id=14zBxIw-K2Jn9aGq1nqO02cb7EXR5MRIo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted December 29, 2019 ED Team Share Posted December 29, 2019 Thanks for the link and PM WingC3 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HILOK Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 (edited) hi everyone, happened twice to me + human wingman in two different missions (so basically 4 times) in nevada. yesterday and couple of days ago. here the highlights: - openbeta latest - hot start parking (no human startup) - extended ground time with running engines (20min+, then taxi) - during parking no messing with systems, just basic NAV / COM setup - no usage of ground power - 1st occurrence while parking (both jets), 2nd during taxi (both jets) - sequence: first my jet (server, so first to join), shortly after his jet (delay about the delta in join time) - "ELEC SYS" + "FLCS PMG/MAIN GEN" light, and some systems off (stby ADI, FCR, MIDS,...) hope that helps to reproduce. cheers hilok Edited January 21, 2020 by HILOK more details Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukino81 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 it happened to me more than once, when I left the plane stopped for a long time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederf Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 It happens to me consistently. I think it is some kind of overheating mechanic due to long term ground idling. Whatever the case idling in the chocks for an hour appears to be impossible currently without losing power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmy Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 I experienced this last week and we had two jets redball today on our DS2. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] http://www.476vfightergroup.com/content.php High Quality Aviation Photography For Personal Enjoyment And Editorial Use. www.crosswindimages.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=Panther= Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Captured the Main Gen failure tonight while working on something else. Jet is hot on the ramp at Nellis, and around 31 minutes the MFD power cycles, Master Caution illuminates, ELEC Caution light, and MAIN GEN light also come on. I exited shortly afterwards.MainGen Failure 30 minutes on ground.trk Twitch Channel [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Virtual Thunderbirds, LLC | Sponsored by Thrustmaster Z390 Aorus Xtreme, i9 9900k, G.SKILL TridentZ Series 32GB, 1080ti 11GB, Obutto R3Volution, Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog, TPR, Cougar MFDs, FSSB R3L, JetSeat, Oculus Rift S, Buddy-Fox A-10C UFC, F/A-18C UFC, Tek Creations F-16 ICP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legolasindar Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 2 or 3 times for me. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Cavallers del Cel - Comunintat Catalana de Simulació http://www.cavallersdelcel.cat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodak Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 From what I remember back on the A models, extended power on the ground required aux air for cooling, external air source had to be hooked up to cool electronic bays for extended ground ops checks, they're normally dependent on ram air for cooling, only get that in flight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvsgas Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 From what I remember back on the A models, extended power on the ground required aux air for cooling, external air source had to be hooked up to cool electronic bays for extended ground ops checks, they're normally dependent on ram air for cooling, only get that in flight. Cooling air is only needed when applying main power without engine running. Even in 120ºF (48ºC) weather in Phoenix AZ, the engine can provide enough cooling for the equipment. Not the pilot tho, since the electronics will take precedence. At any rate, long time on the ground with engine running does not have a time limit for the specific version of the F-16 in DCS. To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironwulf Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 [REPORTED]2.5.6.48283 F-16 Generator/Power issue After 30 minutes of idling on the ground, the F-16 generators drop offline, alignment is lost, and the FCR stops. This happens even if ground power has been applied. Once this happen the systems cannot be reset.GRissue45Kelso-MP.trk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted May 6, 2020 ED Team Share Posted May 6, 2020 Reported, I thought it maybe RPM related but it looked fine, I have asked the team to take a look thanks Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironwulf Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 I vaguely recall somewhere- and it was probably in my Falcon 4 days, that if the engine was below a certain RPM, the EPU would kick in, and thus you could not run idle for too long or it'd run it out of fuel. So, you're not alone in that thinking. I must be misremembering though, because I cannot find anything to that effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topgun505 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 I was teaching two other people on the Viper. We all started in hot starts and all three of us lost electrical in the same fashion. Not sure how long it took. 15, 20 min? I was able to clear the warning but some electrical components would not turn back on like the RWR equipment. I hooked up external power and everything turned back on. But the moment I unhooked from ground power the equipment went dead again. It appears to be an electrical generator dies and there's no way to get it back online. Topgun505 Win 10 Pro 64-bit, Intel Core i7-8700k, Evga GTX 1080 FTW, 64 GB DDR4 RAM, Alienware 34" 2K LED, TrackIR 5 Pro, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Saitek Pro Rudder, Thrustmaster MFDs x3, Razer Nostromo n52. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigTatanka Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 This was happening in our virtual squadron all the time, we realized it always happens between 30-40 minutes of being in the jet without taking off. It can also happen after you land and are sitting there in the jet with the engine running, so the time seems to be cumulative. For example, you sit on the ramp for 20 minutes briefing, go fly, and debrief for 20 minutes, you will get the failure. Dances, PhD Jet Hobo https://v65th.wordpress.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted July 8, 2020 ED Team Share Posted July 8, 2020 I have reported main generator fail after about 30 minutes https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=272453 I will merge the threads Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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