FALT691 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 I am trying to determine the most effective mode for using the LD-10 against know SAM sites. To this point I have been using them in SP mode and waiting until I receive a 'MISSILE LAUNCH' warning then firing them and going defensive. Is the ACT mode better than this approach? I have not had much luck using ACT mode so I am sure I am doing something noobish and not deploying the missile properly. Link to post Share on other sites
tees Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 I am trying to determine the most effective mode for using the LD-10 against know SAM sites. To this point I have been using them in SP mode and waiting until I receive a 'MISSILE LAUNCH' warning then firing them and going defensive. Is the ACT mode better than this approach? I have not had much luck using ACT mode so I am sure I am doing something noobish and not deploying the missile properly. You dont need wait for missile lunch you can engage sam with SP when its lock at you 303 & Friends discord Hangar : JF-17 Thunder, F-16C Viper, I-16, Christen Eagle II, F-14 Tomcat, Supercarrier, WWII Assets Pack, F/A-18C Hornet, AJS-37 Viggen, Spitfire LF Mk. IX, F-5E Tiger II, M-2000C, MiG-15bis, Bf 109 K-4 Kurfürst, Fw 190 D-9 Dora, F-86F Sabre, Flaming Cliffs 3, P-51D Mustang, A-10C Warthog,SA342 Gazelle, UH-1H Huey, Mi-8MTV2 Magnificent Eight, Black Shark II, Persian Gulf Map, Normandy 1944 Map, Link to post Share on other sites
AeriaGloria Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 ACT is for when you know where the SAM is, Passive is like madddog Link to post Share on other sites
shaHeen-1 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Do both active and passive chase way point? Link to post Share on other sites
AeriaGloria Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Only ACT Link to post Share on other sites
shaHeen-1 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 In what radius around way point will it go for contacts? Link to post Share on other sites
AeriaGloria Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 (edited) I don’t know test it, but it’s INS seems accurate enough to hit large targets if no radiation is found, but not so useful with 22kg warhead Edited March 24, 2020 by AeriaGloria Link to post Share on other sites
foxwxl Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 ACT is better when you have the idea where the SAM is. It more like a PB mode of HARM which lacks the DLZ indication. This mode can get good use of LD10's range. SP is a fast mode to use which U have no idea where the SAM is. PAS is not very precise since U have complete no idea where the missile will go. Deka Ironwork Tester Team Link to post Share on other sites
AeriaGloria Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 SP can be very good at off boresight. One time I was taking out a SAM in Bandar Abbas and fired when it locked me but a SAM in Seerik also locked me so my SP missile went towards Seerik making a nice 6-7G turn flew all the way and killed the SAM in Seerik. At the same time I fired in Passive mode and since I was pointing at the SAMs at Bandar Abbas they went there I’ve been meaning to try shooting behind you, I tried it on release trying to get them to go after air targets that STT and missiles but that capability seems to have been removed, give it enough time to turn and less range to compensate and it’s surprising what you can do Link to post Share on other sites
shaHeen-1 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 Lol too bad you cant fire it backwards in a dogfight. Aim9Y XD Link to post Share on other sites
LastRifleRound Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 Lol too bad you cant fire it backwards in a dogfight. Aim9Y XD More like AIM-9U-turn :megalol: Link to post Share on other sites
paco2002 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 SP can be very good at off boresight. One time I was taking out a SAM in Bandar Abbas and fired when it locked me but a SAM in Seerik also locked me so my SP missile went towards Seerik making a nice 6-7G turn flew all the way and killed the SAM in Seerik. At the same time I fired in Passive mode and since I was pointing at the SAMs at Bandar Abbas they went there I’ve been meaning to try shooting behind you, I tried it on release trying to get them to go after air targets that STT and missiles but that capability seems to have been removed, give it enough time to turn and less range to compensate and it’s surprising what you can do Don't see why they removed it. You can do that in real life. Also, an F18 hit a B52 radar gunner position with a HARM, so it can go for planes. Link to post Share on other sites
AeriaGloria Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 (edited) Who knows, maybe it really can’t do it in real life, if it can It might be really specific circumstances they don’t want to share. It would be tactically useful, but I’m sure that will be a feature in later generation LD-10, CM-102, CM-400AKG. CM-400AKG would be pretty overkill for anything but AWACS, sure it might be worth it, but the damn thing is basically a MLRS rocket with tri guidance seeker. Edited March 27, 2020 by AeriaGloria Link to post Share on other sites
Floydii Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 There is likely a division in DCS between air and ground based radars which means that ARMs only chase ground emitters (game limitation). In reality, ARMs are programmed with a 'library' of one or more emitters (the same thing that let's your RWR tell radar types apart). This library determines what the missile can home in on. Loose parameters in the library can lead to incidents like the HARM getting launched at a B52 gun radar. Link to post Share on other sites
AeriaGloria Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 Maybe, but it did seek out missiles and planes that were STT locking you the couple weeks after release. If you did it right you could even get kills with it as long as they STT the entire TOF Link to post Share on other sites
L0op8ack Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 There's a missile IRL which can attack plane by passive radar tracking, but it's not LD-10. So, we remove this ability from LD-10. Link to post Share on other sites
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