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Guys here's an idea - stop asking for new modules - ask for them to work on the core and sort out the ton of legacy code that is creating havoc.

 

I'm guessing these guys asking for new modules at the moment are Single player who dont want carrier operations or any type of ground war. Its a mess currently for those that are ignorant of the current picture.

 

Any dev's need to be fixing what is 2.5.6

 

 

Ed still needs modules to make profit. And they said a new project will be announced within March. Doubt its gonna be the phantom given certain keywords they used, but there is something already brewing.

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Guys here's an idea - stop asking for new modules - ask for them to work on the core and sort out the ton of legacy code that is creating havoc.

 

I'm guessing these guys asking for new modules at the moment are Single player who dont want carrier operations or any type of ground war. Its a mess currently for those that are ignorant of the current picture.

 

Any dev's need to be fixing what is 2.5.6

 

 

Like it has been said, ED needs a steady cash flow to keep the lights on and be able to keep working on the legacy code. So unless you want to fund them privately nothing is changing to the current business model.

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Like it has been said, ED needs a steady cash flow to keep the lights on and be able to keep working on the legacy code. So unless you want to fund them privately nothing is changing to the current business model.

As far as I'm concerned at this point ED can also fail, I will be foolish but it is like that, otherwise they charge the new DCS 3.0 so we finish once and for all to make the usual speeches.

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Though both require crew/teamwork mindset the pilot does have more control in the F4E than in the tomcat.

 

 

In the F4E pilot does at least have close canopy switch, and armament selector panel, and i think the pilot can still guide in AGM65's or bullpups ( hand control stick in the pilots pit) if need be.

 

In the tomcat pilot can';t so much as wipe his rear end with toilet paper without assistance from the RIO :D

 

Of course best multiseaters, are the ones where the pilot is control and can do just about everything as if they were a single seater ( F/A18F and F15E) , and the backseater is just there as a ridealong, maybe to manage only the boring repetitive stuff no pilot wants to do, like radios, or manually input coordinates. You know just enough to keep em occupied, and feeling as if they are needed ;)

 

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Like it has been said, ED needs a steady cash flow to keep the lights on and be able to keep working on the legacy code. So unless you want to fund them privately nothing is changing to the current business model.

 

 

I could be wrong...but...

 

 

 

 

 

I guess they need to introduce or prioritize modules that the MAJORITY would use than select few experts. More players, more sales, more profit.

 

 

They could have delayed the Hind and prioritized the F-4 Phantom. There aren't many helo players unless you have the full setup of VR or TrackIR, the helos are difficult to fly, and fully utilize. Also not everyone has the ideal full setup.

 

 

 

So until they get to a stability, they really need to prioritize what module gets more sales.

 

 

For example: If they decide to make a S-3 Viking, B-1B or try a C-130 transport (Both have more than 3 seat and its complicated). There would only be a few takers and that would be the purists. Also, these modules require MORE work from them and effort than combat fighter modules, plu it would be very complicated. I certainly would not be inclined to buy a Viking...


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I don't know why, but I'd prefer the F-4C or F-4B Variants as they were the first Phantoms to be used in Vietnam... and they didn't even have guns mounted on them. Then they added the first gun pod to it and it temporarily solved the lack of guns for a few years before the E Variant came with the nose mounted gun. Also the E was used on Navy, Marines and Army... The B was used by the Navy and Marines, but soon would update to the C variant at the same time the Army received the F-4C... So Yeah We need these F-4 Phantoms as an awesome CW era jet to use.

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32 minutes ago, LoganTMT said:

I don't know why, but I'd prefer the F-4C or F-4B Variants as they were the first Phantoms to be used in Vietnam... and they didn't even have guns mounted on them. Then they added the first gun pod to it and it temporarily solved the lack of guns for a few years before the E Variant came with the nose mounted gun. Also the E was used on Navy, Marines and Army... The B was used by the Navy and Marines, but soon would update to the C variant at the same time the Army received the F-4C... So Yeah We need these F-4 Phantoms as an awesome CW era jet to use.

 

I'd love as many variants as possible. I'm not sure how difficult that would be, as they all have quite a bit in common. Obviously the E/K/M are probably exceptions.

 

We'd also probably need period assets to go with them. Right now we have no Cold War era BLUFOR escorts (you can kinda approximate cold war variants with the Ticonderoga and OHP, but given they have Phalanx Block 1B, they are 1999+ variants).

 

The same with a carrier, you could use HB Forrestal (if it ever gets released), but it's a later ship. We're missing things like a late Essex/early Forestall/early Enterprise. 


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At least an F-4E is essential, and I would prefer what I think was the mid 80s variant Belsimtek was about to develop before they were gobbled up by ED (which, in my opinion, was one of the worst things happened in DCS as far as I'm concerned, Belsimtek was making aircraft I like, and was doing them the way I like :P). It was an F-4E with the most advanced TGP available for it (though a massive, heavy, and draggy one), all the multirole goodness, Mavericks, self lased LGBs, TV guided bombs, anti radiation missiles, ARN-101 nav system. Though the immediate predecessor would work as well, as I think only things differed was the older INS nav system, and less capable but lighter pave spike TGP instead of more capable but holy-crap-massive pave tack.

70s-80s, possibly up to early 90s is where most DCS assets are, and we have many existing and upcoming modules in this period. Besides, it is where any sort of hope for possbility to have blufor-redfor counterparts realistically made. And I just like the blend of advanced and primitive provided by birds from this period. F-4E was not only the most multirole, it also was the variant that carried the flag of Phantom all over the world, and through the decades and conflicts. Germany, Greece, Turkey, Egypt, Israel, Japan, South Korea, Iran, for a period Australia too, all operated, and some still operates it. Saw conflicts many times over the Middle East, and we already have two Middle East maps that can host Turkish, Israeli, Egyptian, and Iranian Phantoms. And it has an actual gun for the love of goodness! 😛

Also a later F-4E had aerodynamics refinements that made it a better dogfighter, though very late naval ones got it as well.

That said, I do understand people who are enthusiasts of naval aviation, and Phantom's beginings as a naval aircraft. And given that the variants are significantly different even in their cockpit setups/responsibilities/capabilities of pilot vs WSO/RIO, it would be a shame not to have both. I really think both F-4E and either F-4J or F-4S should be made, separately payware if need be. More advanced variants of naval Phantom adds things that make them also distinct like smokeless engines, and radars that actually have look down-shoot down ability, which F-4E radars never got aside from later nation specific upgrades that changed the radar.

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24 minutes ago, WinterH said:

At least an F-4E is essential, and I would prefer what I think was the mid 80s variant Belsimtek was about to develop before they were gobbled up by ED (which, in my opinion, was one of the worst things happened in DCS as far as I'm concerned, Belsimtek was making aircraft I like, and was doing them the way I like :P). 


Belsimtek was not gobbled by ED. Belsimtek and ED join forces and now, old Belsimtek studio change your name on 2018, the studio continue working on the Mi-24 and other projects.

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Most of the Belsimtek team is still here with us at ED, the plans for the F-4 is on hold / not in our near term plans currently. But that's not to say it wont happen at all, it is an iconic aircraft after all. 

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Can we get at least some decent 3D model for AI? I noticed there will be some model updates soon (SH-60, S3, B1-B,...) so I hope for update for this beatiful jet too.

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4 minutes ago, Agim said:

Can we get at least some decent 3D model for AI? I noticed there will be some model updates soon (SH-60, S3, B1-B,...) so I hope for update for this beatiful jet too.

I doubt they will put work into a new AI model, if there will be an entirely new and playable Phantom in the near or mid future, for which a new model will have to be created anyways.


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AI updates has on progress

 

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Because DCS World is built on a project spanning almost two decades, some units now show their age and will be updated throughout the year. It is also important that we add new units to better fill the battlefields. Here are some of the items that we intend to create or update in 2021:

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10 minutes ago, QuiGon said:

I doubt they will put work into a new AI model, if there will be an entirely new and playable Phantom in the near or mid future, for which a new model will have to be created anyways.

 

Well, there was the Su-34

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The difference is that there's no chance of getting a full fidelity Su-34, while the Phantom is more of a question of "when?", rather than "if". Unfortunately, right now it seems like the answer to "when?" is "a long time".

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Belsimtek was not gobbled by ED. Belsimtek and ED join forces and now, old Belsimtek studio change your name on 2018, the studio continue working on the Mi-24 and other projects.

With all due respect Silver, your denial is hilarious 😆 especially when the post immediate follow yours, from an actual ED staff says that "most of the former Belsimtek team is still with us here in ED". They were acquired by ED, BST's plans/pipelines stopped, Hind was pushed years ahead, Cobra and Phantom were effectively put on ice, in favor of working on ED's own plans i.e. finishing the Hornet and making the Viper. There is no indication that BST plan and work a schedule of modules for themselves anymore independtly from ED. So yeah, they were, and are gobbled up from what I can see :). That at least sped up production of ED's plans, and probably allowed them to move resources to other needed changes as well, which are all good. But that doesn't change the fact that they are now ED, and BST is not really a thing anymore.

 

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Well, there was the Su-34

Su-34 never really had a chance to become module, so it is just a case of a bad looking AI object replaced with a newer, nicer one. Maybe they have thought that it fits a current time frame on Syria map etc. Phantom may still have a chance of eventually becoming a thing, even if from a 3rd party. So an expensive new 3d model right now may prove a wasted effort a few years in.

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1 minute ago, WinterH said:

Su-34 never really had a chance to become module, so it is just a case of a bad looking AI object replaced with a newer, nicer one. Maybe they have thought that it fits a current time frame on Syria map etc. Phantom may still have a chance of eventually becoming a thing, even if from a 3rd party. So an expensive new 3d model right now may prove a wasted effort a few years in.

 

Hmm, what about the F/A-18C? (not the Lot 20)

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49 minutes ago, Agim said:

Can we get at least some decent 3D model for AI? I noticed there will be some model updates soon (SH-60, S3, B1-B,...) so I hope for update for this beatiful jet too.

 

We plan to update many of the old models. Just finding the time to fit them all in is the challenge. The team are working hard now on lots of tasks. 

 

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15 minutes ago, Northstar98 said:

 

Hmm, what about the F/A-18C? (not the Lot 20)

Hmm yeah something like that may happen even if in dev. I don't know of course, but think that F/A-18C and F-5E were cases where in progress model may have been added as an AI, while the more upgraded one as development continued became the module eventually. Though I seem to recall F-5E model update and F-5E-3 release were almost simultaneous, F-18 one was, as far as I recall a few years before the module.

I would personally feel "yeah great more hints that F-4E isn't happening" if we get an AI update only.

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2 minutes ago, WinterH said:

Hmm yeah something like that may happen even if in dev. I don't know of course, but think that F/A-18C and F-5E were cases where in progress model may have been added as an AI, while the more upgraded one as development continued became the module eventually. Though I seem to recall F-5E model update and F-5E-3 release were almost simultaneous, F-18 one was, as far as I recall a few years before the module.

 

Yeah, I think you're right, I always wondered about the F-5E (not E-3), as they're identical as far as I can tell at least.

 

2 minutes ago, WinterH said:

I would personally feel "yeah great more hints that F-4E isn't happening" if we get an AI update only.

 

Fair enough, though there is Heatblur's A-6E and maybe the Draken; though in the case of the latter we haven't heard anything in what, years?

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1 hour ago, WinterH said:

With all due respect Silver, your denial is hilarious 😆 especially when the post immediate follow yours, from an actual ED staff says that "most of the former Belsimtek team is still with us here in ED". They were acquired by ED, BST's plans/pipelines stopped, Hind was pushed years ahead, Cobra and Phantom were effectively put on ice, in favor of working on ED's own plans i.e. finishing the Hornet and making the Viper. There is no indication that BST plan and work a schedule of modules for themselves anymore independtly from ED. So yeah, they were, and are gobbled up from what I can see :). That at least sped up production of ED's plans, and probably allowed them to move resources to other needed changes as well, which are all good. But that doesn't change the fact that they are now ED, and BST is not really a thing anymore.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Northstar98 said:

 

Well, there was the Su-34

Uhm, since when is the Su-34 an aircraft that will get their own full fledged module?! :huh:

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3 minutes ago, QuiGon said:

Uhm, since when is the Su-34 an aircraft that will get their own full fledged module?! :huh:

 

I used a poor example, the same thing applies to the F/A-18C and kinda the F-5E-3...


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6 minutes ago, Northstar98 said:

I used a poor example, the same thing applies to the F/A-18C and kinda the F-5E-3...

Those aircraft fit exactly what I meant: The old AI models have not been upgraded (they are still there!), because a totally new model has been developed instead to be playable (which is also being used as a new AI unit besides the old one).

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48 minutes ago, Northstar98 said:

Fair enough, though there is Heatblur's A-6E and maybe the Draken; though in the case of the latter we haven't heard anything in what, years?

Heatblur said something to the effect of "we want to add these as AI objects to enhance/support experience of Viggen&F-14 modules, but we would possibly like to make them into modules in future if possible". Probably not even nearly verbatim of what was said, but that's the gist of it as I remember. And you are right, it's been years and they are not ready even as AI objects yet.

One thing I know is that, I would personally LOVE them both as modules :P. 
 

48 minutes ago, Northstar98 said:

I always wondered about the F-5E (not E-3), as they're identical as far as I can tell at least.

Visually, F-5E has the "pointy nose", and F-5E-3 has the "shark nose" which apparently enhances flight characteristics in some way. RWR and radars should be different too, and maybe auto maneuvering flaps were E-3 exclusive too not sure. But from an AI model perspective, I'd say probably only difference is the nose :))


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MiG-21Bis, Fw-190D, Bf-109K, P-51D, F-86F, Ka-50, UH-1H, Mi-8MTV2, Hawk T1A, C-101, FC3, A-10C, CA, Mirage 2000C, Gazelle, L-39, MiG-15Bis, F-5E, AJS 37 Viggen, Yak-52, Christen Eagle II, MiG-19, I-16, JF-17, F-14, F/A-18C, Fw-190A8, AV-8B/NA, Spitifre IX

 

Mods:

A-4E, MB-339, Edge 540

 

Utility modules:

Combined Arms, NS 430 GPS

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