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You can assume it is cancelled. Because there is no timeline for it. They just say "sure we are going to make it in someday"

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Like others said, it wasn't supposed to be just after the F-16, and frankly, we may forget about it for years even in best case unfortunately.

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I think that has not "cancelled" only delayed meanwhile F/A-18C/F-16C has been completed, has the same situation with the "planned" AH-1S, delayed meanwhile ED working on the Mil Mi-24P.

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It was Wags' interview for the Fighter Pilot podcast, iirc F-4E and the Cobra were "on the list of projects we'd like to do" or words to that effect. Next project after the 16 has been the Hind for some time now IIRC. After the Hind I don't think there's anything scheduled for the core team, which might mean something like a comprehensive rework of assets given there'll be modellers with no project.

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The F-16 and Mi-24 were "cancelled" too at some point.

 

And yeah, considering that's more than a decade ago now, it would pretty much count as cancelled, so not sure that's a good example at all :P

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And yeah, considering that's more than a decade ago now, it would pretty much count as cancelled, so not sure that's a good example at all :P

 

 

How is that not a good example? Evidently sometimes this is as long as it takes.

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How is that not a good example? Evidently sometimes this is as long as it takes.

 

Evidently, it means it's as good as cancelled :)

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So just to fuel random speculation.

 

ED has teams (a bit more normal ones than razbams idea of what that is). A modern fixed wing team. A helo team. A ww2 team.

 

So the mi24 will come after ka50 v3.0 and the ah1 after that.

 

A totally different team is doing the f18/16. Then the mystery module (f15c/mig/su/f22) then the f4e.

 

And the ww2 team doing whatever (maybe they could do the spad at some point and do korea and vn a solid)

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I think there is no mystery module, it is the Mi-24 in my opinion, if you're talking about Wags' "an anticipated module" comment in one of those AMA/interviews. If there is anything more substantive about a mystery module, I'd like to see it.

 

To be fair, we don't know if AH-1 is after Mi-24, or is also on the backburner. So we may or may not get Phantom after Mi-24, but I somehow don't think it is the case. Well I would be highly disappointed if it came quick, but like how Hornet and Viper turned out to be, so in that sense I suppose it is better. I just hope when it comes, they stick with the variant they chose, it was THE best variant that can be chosen in my opinion.

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And yeah, considering that's more than a decade ago now, it would pretty much count as cancelled, so not sure that's a good example at all :P
Not cancelled at all since you have a Hornet and a Viper right now despite being postponed some 10 years ago, right? :lol:

 

Granted the F-4E was meant to be the next Belsimtek jet, granted that after rejoin of both teams their schedule changed and Phantom is postponed (and I was expecting it as much as anyone), but definitely nothing to do with the 10 years delay awaiting for official licenses and a technology capable of holding those two. The Phantom doesn't have such a problem now in DCS 2.5, I believe (well, who knows about licensing, but…).

 

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Lots of heresy going on here, F-4E is the only variant that matters, at all. Naval Meh-4 would be such a shame if we don't get the E first :P

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Oh fine, it has a sissy Chair Force hook but not the bold, rigid, Navy one with clean lines.
The very same sissy chair than Naval ones mate :lol: :lol: :lol: .

 

 

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Now I'm just looking forward to the F-8J by Magnitude and hoping it might be in open beta next Christmas.

I very much doubt that. It's still very early in its development. I would be suprised if it will be ready for EA for Christmas next year.

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Definitely sad that they postponed the F-4E, was the module I bet most were looking forward to after the F-16.

 

Now I'm just looking forward to the F-8J by Magnitude and hoping it might be in open beta next Christmas.

Yeah I hoped it would be on this years plans for modules but atleast they talked about the F-15E

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