Mustang25 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 But is this any different than the Mavs on the triple racks on the F-16? Seems a bit odd to play one way on one aircraft, but not on the others... Different missile, different engine, different SOPs. Who’s to say given how little real world info we have on the aircraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fliegerkalle Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Anybody Knows why the Rockets were removed in newest patch from innern pylons ? Greets FK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foogle Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Anybody Knows why the Rockets were removed in newest patch from innern pylons ? Greets FK Because engines don't like to ingest rocket exhaust, same reason we don't have the C-701, (S/L)D-10, or PL-5E on inboard pylons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
some1 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 But why we don't have 500lb bombs on the inner pylons? No Mk20, Mk82 or GBU-12's. Hardware: VPForce Rhino, FSSB R3 Ultra, Virpil T-50CM, Hotas Warthog, Winwing F15EX, Slaw Rudder, GVL224 Trio Throttle, Thrustmaster MFDs, Saitek Trim wheel, Trackir 5, Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeriaGloria Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 I don’t know, but I’ve never seen a picture with 500lb loaded anywhere else but outboard Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exile5121 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 HMMM Bigger HMMMMM Looks like it MIGHT be able to carry wingtip SD10's and should be able to carry center-line smart-munitions as well as 2x PL-5e's on outboard pylons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeriaGloria Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 (edited) No that’s a photo shop made by some fan, it absolutely is never intended to carry SD-10 on wingtip. The artist is mistaken to have thought that is a real load out, it is not official anyways. JF-17 has huge amount of photo shops online, in addition there is no official load chart straight from the PAC/Chengdu AFAIK. So just be wary and cautious when you see photos like this online. It’s all fine and nice for burning C-802A info into your mind but the artist is just some fanboy who’s either mistaken about wing tip SD-10 or feels that it should be possible, which it isn’t. It is no AMRAAM, it is heavier Photoshop and CGI examples, Edited March 14, 2020 by AeriaGloria Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babok Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 can you guys share your loadout a2g sead etc.. im not sure what to bring in mission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeriaGloria Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 There should be some defaults, you can always try the two missions and instant actions missions to get a feel for what weapons you like. For SEAD only weapon is LD-10 unless you consider the glide bombs as effective decoys. I mean air to ground is a freaking smorgasbord on this jet, you have options for any threat, CAS? Laser guided rockets. BAI? Glide bombs. Decapitation? CM-802AKG. All these weapons can be used for other purposes as well as long as you are comfortable using them. I would just recommend starting out with default load outs and see how it goes on the ready made missions Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaHeen-1 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 spend time with each. eventually you will develop a good sense for what you need for any situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floydii Posted May 4, 2020 Author Share Posted May 4, 2020 Any reply from the Devs on this? Every payload diagram we have seen has at least 1x 500lb class bomb on the inboard pylons. Is including them WIP or has it been ruled out based on Deka internal loadout diagrams? As an aside, why are mk83s not available on the outboard pylons when the 1257 pound LS-6-500 is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknown Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 As an aside, why are mk83s not available on the outboard pylons when the 1257 pound LS-6-500 is? Who stops you from doing that? You can equip them via rearm menu or if there is no default loadout with them just create one inside the ME so you can select that loadout later. Modules: KA-50, A-10C, FC3, UH-1H, MI-8MTV2, CA, MIG-21bis, FW-190D9, Bf-109K4, F-86F, MIG-15bis, M-2000C, SA342 Gazelle, AJS-37 Viggen, F/A-18C, F-14, C-101, FW-190A8, F-16C, F-5E, JF-17, SC, Mi-24P Hind, AH-64D Apache, Mirage F1, F-4E Phantom II System: Win 11 Pro 64bit, Ryzen 3800X, 32gb RAM DDR4-3200, PowerColor Radeon RX 6900XT Red Devil ,1 x Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe, 2 x Samsung SSD 2TB + 1TB SATA, MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals - VIRPIL T-50CM and VIRPIL MongoosT-50 Throttle - HP Reverg G2, using only the latest Open Beta, DCS settings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorianR666 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 can you guys share your loadout a2g sead etc.. im not sure what to bring in mission. 4x LD-10 SPJ pod (for RWR ranging) 2x PL-5 (self defense) Then either 2x fuel tank or 2x GB-6-SFW if you know enemy positions beforehand (beware they can be shotdown) CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600X GPU: AMD RX 580 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floydii Posted May 5, 2020 Author Share Posted May 5, 2020 Who stops you from doing that? You can equip them via rearm menu or if there is no default loadout with them just create one inside the ME so you can select that loadout later. You are correct, my mistake on the MK83s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard1393 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 This one from the update thread plus GB-6 and then soon Type 200. There is a few differences also, you can’t carry C-701 on inboard pylons like the payload list. It was a long time ago it was posted. Don’t think I’ve seen GB-500 in game yet According to this chart one could carry 4 BRM Rocket pods. This is currently not possible in game. Has this been changed since release of the module or will it be added? GPU: PALIT NVIDIA RTX 3080 10GB | CPU: Intel Core i7-9700K @ 4,9GHz | RAM: 64GB DDR4 3000MHz VR: HP Reverb G2 | HOTAS: TM Warthog Throttle and Stick OS: Windows 10 22H2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeriaGloria Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Yea it was changed that’s why some missions still have them without pylons Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger-II Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 According to this chart one could carry 4 BRM Rocket pods. This is currently not possible in game. Has this been changed since release of the module or will it be added? I knew I saw that somewhere!!! My girlfriend had to search it for me (she speaks Mandarin) and I'm unable to search it again. :lol: It was possible to carry 4xBRM in DCS, but they removed it. I don't know why. Motorola 68000 | 1 Mb | Debug port "When performing a forced landing, fly the aircraft as far into the crash as possible." - Bob Hoover. The JF-17 is not better than the F-16; it's different. It's how you fly that counts. "An average aircraft with a skilled pilot, will out-perform the superior aircraft with an average pilot." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeriaGloria Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Gas ingestion Black Shark Den Squadron Member: We are open to new recruits, click here to check us out or apply to join! https://blacksharkden.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger-II Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 (edited) can you guys share your loadout a2g sead etc.. im not sure what to bring in mission. SEAD? Depends what the air threat is, too, and how far I need to go, but a couple of options: * 2x PL-5EII * 2x SD-10 * 2x LD-10 * 2x wing tanks * 1x SPJ If air threats are not great: * 2x PL-5EII * 2x LD-10 or 4x LD-10 (being mindful the dual-pylons hit aircraft performance quite hard/increase fuel burn). * 2x wing tanks * 1x SPJ If I'm out to really cause trouble: * 2x PL-5EII * 2x LD-10 * 1x WMD7 on outer pylon * 2x BRM * 1x center-line fuel If I'm hitting EWR then I'll bring along MITM AKG's. Edited May 11, 2020 by Tiger-II Motorola 68000 | 1 Mb | Debug port "When performing a forced landing, fly the aircraft as far into the crash as possible." - Bob Hoover. The JF-17 is not better than the F-16; it's different. It's how you fly that counts. "An average aircraft with a skilled pilot, will out-perform the superior aircraft with an average pilot." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking 1-1 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 If I'm out to really cause trouble: * 2x PL-5EII * 2x LD-10 * 1x WMD7 on outer pylon * 2x BRM * 1x center-line fuel If I'm hitting EWR then I'll bring along MITM AKG's. This loadout isn't possible since you can't put BRM on the inner pylons... Before you call everything a "bug": RTFM & try again! Thank you. :music_whistling: I9-9900k, 32 GB RAM, Geforce RTX 2080 TI, 128 GB M2 SSD, 1 TB SSD, Track IR, Warthog Hotas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuumCuique Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Has there been any word if Mk.82s and Mk.20s on the inner pylons will get implemented? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paco2002 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Has there been any word if Mk.82s and Mk.20s on the inner pylons will get implemented? I posted a thread a while ago asking for that, but it looked like the people doesn't want to carry Mk82/Mk20 on the inner pylons... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaHeen-1 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 It doesn't have too much utility since Jeff uses fuel tanks often Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J20Stronk Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 It doesn't have too much utility since Jeff uses fuel tanks often ehhh. If the main reason as to why we can't have lightweight bombs on the inner stations is because the PAF always carries fuel tanks there instead of said bombs, then ED should get rid of the Dual Rack 120Cs, because the USN/MC are definitely smarter than loading 10 missiles on their planes. :lol: No, there has to be a reason. We already have an excuse as to why we can't mount rockets and missiles on the inner stations, but we don't have one for smaller, lighter, and significantly less expensive munitions. Clearance and weight should not be an issue, and SMS - LOAD has entries for them on those stations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuumCuique Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 My understanding is that a Mk83 and Mk82 use the same connection, so if it can carry a single Mk83 on the inner stations, it should also be able to carry an Mk82. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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