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J11A for stand-alone SU27 and SU33 users.


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I ll copy paste the thread that I opened in the DCS wish-list section. Hopefully looking for a reply.

 

"Hello good sirs,

 

Id like to ask for a way to purchase or get the J11. There are people just like me and my friends that handpicked the planes from the fc3 package. So we didnt get the J11 for free, but we are willing to buy it or do w/e it gets to get it cuz especially for multiplayer purposes it is amazing. We own the su27 stand alone package, and the su 33 stand alone package already, and many other planes, so why shouldnt we have any access to the J11 at all? Moreover its the only plane from red side that has data link and active radar missiles, it matches the F18 perfectly and now that Viper is coming its needed.

 

Please consider it..."

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I didnt read every page, but as it seems now the version FC3 buyers got has DL and they consider to remove it, am I right? Even so with DL or not, the other users should still have some kind of access to the plane.

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Well first of all, it's not Deka who don't want to get J11 as Su27 and Su33 bundle. All credit goes to ED. Deka said multiple time it's all on ED hands.

 

Now, for specs, deka allready said J11 FC3 wasn't finished and polished. It was rushed. When they finished JF17 they are interested on reworking it (mostly cockpit) and eventually make a full J11B. But nothing sure there.

Consider actual J11A as a Su27 with reworked exterior, and R77.

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Well first of all, it's not Deka who don't want to get J11 as Su27 and Su33 bundle. All credit goes to ED. Deka said multiple time it's all on ED hands.

 

Now, for specs, deka allready said J11 FC3 wasn't finished and polished. It was rushed. When they finished JF17 they are interested on reworking it (mostly cockpit) and eventually make a full J11B. But nothing sure there.

Consider actual J11A as a Su27 with reworked exterior, and R77.

Ye I understand. Thats the main reason we want it. The Su27 flying model+datalink+R77. Anyhow I understand what you saying, so I guess we ll have to wait and see how the JF17 development is going. THank you for your reply

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Posted this/similar issue here on june 2nd already... it sadly was ignored by ED so far, though Nineline and Bignewy read my PM, but didn't forward the idea to their superiors I guess... https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=242231

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exactly... low price + action YouTube trailer showing it's capabilities attracts new customers... (there's still no DCS J-11 video on their YouTube channel...)

DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, Stinger fix (broken since over 2 years), canopy 6DOF tracking-limit (deny head-through-canopy)

NOTAM (to DCS server-admins): Please adhere to the common sense gaming-industry administration-policy as most of the global gaming-industry does, after all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thank you.    -    That moment when companies don't want to mention important facts in their ToS... -.-   -    Dell Visor WMR, Ryzen 5 3600 (6C/12T), RX 580 8GB

 basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a DCS pilot claims about another famous DCS pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence - that would only be bullheadedly

PvP: 125+ hours AV-8B VTOL, JF-17 AKG-A2A, royal dutch airforce F-16C, F-14 crew - PvP campaigns since 2013

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Yep, either their marketing team (maybe it's just one person, who knows...) is too busy, or ED doesn't have dedicated marketing people... o_O but ignoring this thread/idea is the worst thing to do

DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, Stinger fix (broken since over 2 years), canopy 6DOF tracking-limit (deny head-through-canopy)

NOTAM (to DCS server-admins): Please adhere to the common sense gaming-industry administration-policy as most of the global gaming-industry does, after all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thank you.    -    That moment when companies don't want to mention important facts in their ToS... -.-   -    Dell Visor WMR, Ryzen 5 3600 (6C/12T), RX 580 8GB

 basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a DCS pilot claims about another famous DCS pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence - that would only be bullheadedly

PvP: 125+ hours AV-8B VTOL, JF-17 AKG-A2A, royal dutch airforce F-16C, F-14 crew - PvP campaigns since 2013

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Ok, I watched the video, but what is "MFI-55" good for?

DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, Stinger fix (broken since over 2 years), canopy 6DOF tracking-limit (deny head-through-canopy)

NOTAM (to DCS server-admins): Please adhere to the common sense gaming-industry administration-policy as most of the global gaming-industry does, after all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thank you.    -    That moment when companies don't want to mention important facts in their ToS... -.-   -    Dell Visor WMR, Ryzen 5 3600 (6C/12T), RX 580 8GB

 basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a DCS pilot claims about another famous DCS pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence - that would only be bullheadedly

PvP: 125+ hours AV-8B VTOL, JF-17 AKG-A2A, royal dutch airforce F-16C, F-14 crew - PvP campaigns since 2013

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ED is failing at even mentioning J-11 in FC3 store page, it's really embarrassing (I informed them twice about it)

DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, Stinger fix (broken since over 2 years), canopy 6DOF tracking-limit (deny head-through-canopy)

NOTAM (to DCS server-admins): Please adhere to the common sense gaming-industry administration-policy as most of the global gaming-industry does, after all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thank you.    -    That moment when companies don't want to mention important facts in their ToS... -.-   -    Dell Visor WMR, Ryzen 5 3600 (6C/12T), RX 580 8GB

 basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a DCS pilot claims about another famous DCS pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence - that would only be bullheadedly

PvP: 125+ hours AV-8B VTOL, JF-17 AKG-A2A, royal dutch airforce F-16C, F-14 crew - PvP campaigns since 2013

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They don’t want to advertise it until it’s ready for individual sale

 

:huh: :disgust: why the hell sell it individually

DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, Stinger fix (broken since over 2 years), canopy 6DOF tracking-limit (deny head-through-canopy)

NOTAM (to DCS server-admins): Please adhere to the common sense gaming-industry administration-policy as most of the global gaming-industry does, after all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thank you.    -    That moment when companies don't want to mention important facts in their ToS... -.-   -    Dell Visor WMR, Ryzen 5 3600 (6C/12T), RX 580 8GB

 basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a DCS pilot claims about another famous DCS pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence - that would only be bullheadedly

PvP: 125+ hours AV-8B VTOL, JF-17 AKG-A2A, royal dutch airforce F-16C, F-14 crew - PvP campaigns since 2013

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Buy Flaming Cliffs 3

 

I guess you're not aware that with FC3 you don't get all the missions for the stand-alone versions of the FC3 aircraft, and you don't get the individual wallpapers, either.

 

That said, I started with FC3, but then I purchased all FC3 aircraft by themselves to get a) all missions, and b) all wallpapers, but then again, the only one we cannot buy stand-alone is the J11A... so that's what we're waiting for.

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Yes, it always saddens me that FC3 doesn’t get the individual wallpapers or all missions, but unfortunately you still need it to fly J-11A. When the J-11A is standalone I’m sure that won’t change, at least until everything transfers to MAC or what the DCS side of it ends up being called

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