Harlikwin Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 But tbh, I'd now buy AMD. Why? DCS doesn't multicore much. New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etherbattx Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Why? DCS doesn't multicore much. but dude, it’s great for “sticking to the man”. blaze your own trail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Why? DCS doesn't multicore much. Good question. A: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-disable-hyper-threading-spectre-attack,39333.html B: I think AMD is fast enough for my needs Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlikwin Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Good question. A: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-disable-hyper-threading-spectre-attack,39333.html B: I think AMD is fast enough for my needs Good thing my my 9700k doesn't HT :music_whistling: New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etherbattx Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 GPU or CPU? Good thing my my 9700k doesn't HT annoying for sure, but it’s doubtful your wife would install bad software on your machine. (i’m assuming you wouldn’t do it yourself) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob11 Posted May 15, 2019 Author Share Posted May 15, 2019 Well my i7 9700K has shipped so it will be here in a couple of days I hope. For now I am going to UG only CPU+MOBO+RAM and stay with my old GTX970 - see how it goes. I am planning on replacing it with a 2070 eventually but that will have to wait until October...:no_sad: SB11 CPU: intel Core i7 9700K ~ 3.6 GHZ , nVidia RTX2060 SUPER, 32GB 3300 Mhz RAM, DELL 24" LED. Windows 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricktoberfest Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Well my i7 9700K has shipped so it will be here in a couple of days I hope. For now I am going to UG only CPU+MOBO+RAM and stay with my old GTX970 - see how it goes. I am planning on replacing it with a 2070 eventually but that will have to wait until October...:no_sad: SB11 Let us know the difference. I’m very curious how much difference it will make with the old gpu still. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I3570K @ 4.5Ghz, 16Gb DDR3 @ 2400, Vega64 @1080p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruman Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Well my i7 9700K has shipped so it will be here in a couple of days I hope. For now I am going to UG only CPU+MOBO+RAM and stay with my old GTX970 - see how it goes. I am planning on replacing it with a 2070 eventually but that will have to wait until October...:no_sad: SB11 Did you go for 16 or 32GB of RAM? 3000MHz? Intel I9 10900k @5.1GHz | MSI MEG Z490 Unify | Corsair Vengeance 64GB - 3600MHz | EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 VPC T-50 Base /w Viper & Hornet Grip | VPC Rotor TCS Pro w/ Hawk-60 Grip | TM TPR LG C2 42" | Reverb G2 | TIR 5 | PointCtrl | OpenKneeboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob11 Posted May 15, 2019 Author Share Posted May 15, 2019 16GB @3200 Ghz for now. Dya think I need more firepower? CPU: intel Core i7 9700K ~ 3.6 GHZ , nVidia RTX2060 SUPER, 32GB 3300 Mhz RAM, DELL 24" LED. Windows 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted May 16, 2019 ED Team Share Posted May 16, 2019 Well my i7 9700K has shipped so it will be here in a couple of days I hope. For now I am going to UG only CPU+MOBO+RAM and stay with my old GTX970 - see how it goes. I am planning on replacing it with a 2070 eventually but that will have to wait until October...:no_sad: SB11 I think you should still see a good performance jump. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruman Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 16GB @3200 Ghz for now. Dya think I need more firepower? Your RAM are fine. I like 32GB because it simply compensates for not efficient memory management by the developers. I guess you have two 8GB modules installed and still have to empty slots, correct? Intel I9 10900k @5.1GHz | MSI MEG Z490 Unify | Corsair Vengeance 64GB - 3600MHz | EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 VPC T-50 Base /w Viper & Hornet Grip | VPC Rotor TCS Pro w/ Hawk-60 Grip | TM TPR LG C2 42" | Reverb G2 | TIR 5 | PointCtrl | OpenKneeboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob11 Posted May 16, 2019 Author Share Posted May 16, 2019 Your RAM are fine. I like 32GB because it simply compensates for not efficient memory management by the developers. I guess you have two 8GB modules installed and still have to empty slots, correct? I will, :music_whistling: still have to wait for all my parts to arrive...:pilotfly: SB11 CPU: intel Core i7 9700K ~ 3.6 GHZ , nVidia RTX2060 SUPER, 32GB 3300 Mhz RAM, DELL 24" LED. Windows 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demon_ Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Funny. I remember on some previous threads that some of you told us that the performance gain between specific generations and most of the other generation was... small. Do you compare these CPU at the same frequency? You all know that the Sandy bridge is good. At least delid it before to spend $$$. I think Intel has understand (9700K) that physical cores are better than virtual cores for gaming. And generate less heat for the overclocker. Attache ta tuque avec d'la broche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etherbattx Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 posts and opinions go back and forth and not everyone uses the same options or configuration. it’s tricky to know what to believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 Realities do differ ;) Gesendet von iPhone mit Tapatalk Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob11 Posted May 24, 2019 Author Share Posted May 24, 2019 Low FPS over cities GPU or CPU related? SB11 CPU: intel Core i7 9700K ~ 3.6 GHZ , nVidia RTX2060 SUPER, 32GB 3300 Mhz RAM, DELL 24" LED. Windows 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 As eatherbattx says, in addition to a wild mix of settings, conditions and other measurable things comes ones own perception and validation. Whereas one could well find a common understanding of fluent or stutter, things like Enough LoD or maybe less , more pixels or better VR... etc. That is harder to agree on But unfortunately hw requirements depend on most of those as well. We are getting far OT... as usual Gesendet von iPhone mit Tapatalk Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob11 Posted May 24, 2019 Author Share Posted May 24, 2019 I am well aware of that, but giving that my settings are: all on high and tree an preload radius settings are about MAX (except grass and clutter at 500m and chimney smoke on 0) aniso on 4x MSAA on 4x motion blur and SSAA are OFF and res is 1024X1080 would you guess that dropping from 30 (Vsync on) to low 20's above cities is CPU or GPU related? SB11 CPU: intel Core i7 9700K ~ 3.6 GHZ , nVidia RTX2060 SUPER, 32GB 3300 Mhz RAM, DELL 24" LED. Windows 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madeiner Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 I am well aware of that, but giving that my settings are: all on high and tree an preload radius settings are about MAX (except grass and clutter at 500m and chimney smoke on 0) aniso on 4x MSAA on 4x motion blur and SSAA are OFF and res is 1024X1080 would you guess that dropping from 30 (Vsync on) to low 20's above cities is CPU or GPU related? SB11 Definately CPU/ram. Overclock your CPU if you can. You should also lower your MSAA to 2x or off even, depending on if you play MP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosqui Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Definately CPU/ram. Overclock your CPU if you can. You should also lower your MSAA to 2x or off even, depending on if you play MP. If he set msaa to off he have double fps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob11 Posted May 25, 2019 Author Share Posted May 25, 2019 If he set msaa to off he have double fps Wouldn’t that make my picture jaggy as hell? SB11 CPU: intel Core i7 9700K ~ 3.6 GHZ , nVidia RTX2060 SUPER, 32GB 3300 Mhz RAM, DELL 24" LED. Windows 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob11 Posted June 13, 2019 Author Share Posted June 13, 2019 first impressions Well I promised I'll come back to you after the upgrade and here it is: GPU still the same: GTX 970. I upped my CPU - now i7 9700K~3.6 MHz, my RAM now 32GiG~3200MHz, my MOBO, and my SSD (much faster now) and.... hardly any change. FPS still the same - dipping to about 20 flying low in busy crowded areas. and the occasional flickering black screen. so I guess that settles it - apparently CPU doesn't have much impact on performance in DCS. it's a pity I dumped about $1500 to find the answer... CPU: intel Core i7 9700K ~ 3.6 GHZ , nVidia RTX2060 SUPER, 32GB 3300 Mhz RAM, DELL 24" LED. Windows 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegOhm_SD Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 (edited) Well I promised I'll come back to you after the upgrade and here it is: GPU still the same: GTX 970. I upped my CPU - now i7 9700K~3.6 MHz, my RAM now 32GiG~3200MHz, my MOBO, and my SSD (much faster now) and.... hardly any change. FPS still the same - dipping to about 20 flying low in busy crowded areas. and the occasional flickering black screen. so I guess that settles it - apparently CPU doesn't have much impact on performance in DCS. it's a pity I dumped about $1500 to find the answer... Now the GPU...OC that K, find those good settings and your in good shape. Edited June 13, 2019 by MegOhm_SD Cooler Master HAF XB EVO , ASUS P8Z77-V, i7-3770K @ 4.6GHz, Noctua AC, 32GB Corsair Vengeance Pro, EVGA 1080TI 11GB, 2 Samsung 840 Pro 540GB SSDs Raid 0, 1TB HDD, EVGA SuperNOVA 1300W PS, G930 Wireless SS Headset, TrackIR5/Wireless Proclip, TM Warthog, Saitek Pro Combat Pedals, 75" Samsung 4K QLED, HP Reverb G2, Win 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strikeeagle345 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Well I promised I'll come back to you after the upgrade and here it is: GPU still the same: GTX 970. I upped my CPU - now i7 9700K~3.6 MHz, my RAM now 32GiG~3200MHz, my MOBO, and my SSD (much faster now) and.... hardly any change. FPS still the same - dipping to about 20 flying low in busy crowded areas. and the occasional flickering black screen. so I guess that settles it - apparently CPU doesn't have much impact on performance in DCS. it's a pity I dumped about $1500 to find the answer... you need to overclock the 9700K. leaving it at 3.6 will net you nothing. when I clocked mine up to 5ghz, is when i noticed the changed. Strike USLANTCOM.com i7-9700K OC 5GHz| MSI MPG Z390 GAMING PRO CARBON | 32GB DDR4 3200 | GTX 3090 | Samsung SSD | HP Reverb G2 | VIRPIL Alpha | VIRPIL Blackhawk | HOTAS Warthog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlikwin Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Well I promised I'll come back to you after the upgrade and here it is: GPU still the same: GTX 970. I upped my CPU - now i7 9700K~3.6 MHz, my RAM now 32GiG~3200MHz, my MOBO, and my SSD (much faster now) and.... hardly any change. FPS still the same - dipping to about 20 flying low in busy crowded areas. and the occasional flickering black screen. so I guess that settles it - apparently CPU doesn't have much impact on performance in DCS. it's a pity I dumped about $1500 to find the answer... Well, the issue is that there are always 2 bottlenecks. the CPU and The GPU. If you have a crappy CPU and a good GPU, the CPU can't feed the GPU enough data and it stalls out. If you have a good CPU and crappy GPU (your case), the CPU can feed the GPU, but the GPU will choke on it so it becomes the limting factor. I think if you upgrade to even a lower end card like a 1070 you will see a decent improvement. New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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