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I am completely stumped because i was able to run it at 3ghtz for 2 months before i did this but anyway... i reformatted my computer and got everything up and running and when i wanted to put it back up to 3ghtz i get into windows and it loads the Catalyst control center (i have a 2900XT) and i go in there and do some messing around and my computer restarts. blue screen and stuff.. me so confused... anybody want to break the ice? LOL

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Betcha it's a BIOS setting you forgot to change...?

 

Common board, I used to have one... Some reading material

 

Take care on this first one... his out of the gate voltages are too high for a final OC of 3Ghz

 

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=115217

 

http://www.thetechrepository.com/showthread.php?t=41

 

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=112648

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do the Blue screen happen in other occasions as well?

Why did you changed BIOS setting at all for formating? (did you upped the voltage to 1.35V?)

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i put the bios settings back to default before i formatted. because i was at 3ghtz before i reformatted..... and no i havent cheacked if the blue screen happens anywhere else because i have to go though the catalyst control center to set up graphics for my games.

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What does the blue screen say. If you are changing settings in your graphics driver, it could be the graphics card.

 

If you reset your settings, if could be the PCI clock lock not set for 33.33MHz. I forget how PCI-e clock is generated.

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The blue screen comes up so fast and goes i can only just tell that it was there LOL it happens so fast i cant read it. its there for all of about a half a second. but for now i'm not overclocking because of it....i'll wait to see what next month's drivers bring for ATI because i didnt have these problems until 7.8 came out.

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Have you tried to go back to an earlier version of Catalyst? Have come across some forum-threads where people have had issues with the 7.8-set.

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The blue screen comes up so fast and goes i can only just tell that it was there LOL it happens so fast i cant read it.

 

Go into Control Panel and go to "System" and then the "Advanced" tab. Click "Settings" under Startup and Recovery. Then Uncheck "Automatically Restart"

 

Dont give up on this.... you'll get it sorted ;)

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Fudd if i do that would it just freez instead of restart? what would it do? and yes i went back to the 7.7 drivers and still same issue :P

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Fudd if i do that would it just freez instead of restart? what would it do? and yes i went back to the 7.7 drivers and still same issue :P

 

Yeh... It'll just stop at the BSOD screen and not reboot... I have had BSOD's sitting for hours, it shouldn't affect anything. Your CPU wont throttle and eat itself if that's what you're getting at... LOL ;)

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hmmm. i updated bios but i'm still getting restarts..... but now when i updated bios it loads into windows and i get an "Catalyst control center Monitoring program error and needs to close" no idea what that is but after i hit end my screen goes to S*#T :helpsmilie: My Co washout says its a PCI express frequency something? but its at default in bios. and when i overclock i go to 100 like the tutorials show me :(

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This is the guide i'm following.... Also... what is MCH voltage? never messed with that. i'm not overclocking now ofcourse since its imfreakingpossible for me to at the moment but i think it was 333mhz to get to 3ghtz for my processor

 

The settings in this guide will assume the user has adequate cooling for their processor.

And uses one of the following recommended motherboard:

-abit AW9D series (975X)

-ASUS P5W DH series (975X)

-DFI Infinity or LANParty 975X/G

-abit AB9 series

-ASUS P5B* Deluxe/WiFi-AP (965P)

-Gigabyte 965P-DS3 or DS4 or DQ6

*P5B vanilla is not recommended

**nForce590/570 Intel Edition based motherboard will not work with this guide nor recommended for overclocking**

 

Recommended cooling:

-Scythe Infinity

-Scythe Ninja Plus

-Scythe Mine

-Tuniq Tower 120

-Thermalright Ultra-120 or SI-128 or SI-120

-Noctua NH-U12

-Thermaltake Big Typhoon

-Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro

-Zalman CNPS CNPS9500AT

-Zalman CNPS 7700AlCu or 7700Cu

(The first 7 heatsinks listed here will allow you to clock beyond 3.4Ghz stable)

 

Please also use RAM that’s rated:

-DDR2-667 4-4-4-xx (good for ~400Mhz*)

-DDR2-800 5-5-5-xx (good for ~410Mhz*)

-DDR2-800 4-4-4-xx (good for 500Mhz+*) ->Best for E6300/E6400

-DDR2-1066 5-5-5-xx (good for 530Mhz+*)

-Or any other RAM of the above mentioned speed that has even lower timings

*refer to Part2 for maximum Mhz extraction under 1:1 operation

 

The aim of this guide is to reach as close to 4Ghz (final clockspeed) as possible

 

Part1. Tidying Up Your BIOS (not all BIOS may have those options)

*You must update your BIOS to the latest version before proceeding*

 

1. Disable ‘AI Tuning’ for ASUS, ‘C.I.A.2’ for Gigabyte

2. Set PCI Express (PCIe) frequency @100Mhz (‘Auto’ for DS3/DS4/DQ6)

3. Set PCI frequency @33Mhz

4. Disable Hyperpath 3 (for P5W DH only)

5. Disable any ‘spread spectrum’

6. Disable Q-Fan (for ASUS only)

7. Disable ‘Limit CPUID Max to 3’

8. Disable any overvoltage protection

9. Disable ‘C1E’

10. Disable ‘EIST’

11. Disable Virtualization Technology

12. Disable No-Execute Memory Protect

13. Disable any other thing you don’t use

14. Do not enable any speed enhancements you see

 

The purpose here is to lighten up duties placed on the chipset

 

Part2. Memory Adjustments

**Expand options for Gigabyte BIOS under ‘M.I.T.’ by pressing CTRL+F1**

Gigabyte: Set ‘Memory Multiplier’ to 2 (1FSB:1RAM operation)

ASUS: Set ‘DRAM Frequency’ to DDR2-533 @266Mhz FSB (1FSB:1RAM operation)

As you increase the FSB, the RAM will follow in the pattern of 1:1 shown in BIOS.

 

1. Set ‘DRAM Timing’ to manual or disable SPD (use SPD for P5W DH)

2. In BIOS you will see 4 separate timing digits, change them to the ones specified on your RAM

 

e.g. 4-4-4-12

CAS# Latency (tCL)

RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD)

RAS# Precharge (tRP)

RAS# Precharge Delay or Active to Precharge (tRAS)

 

When 1FSB:1RAM is overclocked above the rated frequency of your RAM use the following values

Timing: 5-5-5-15

vDIMM: 2.2V

 

e.g. DDR2-667 4-4-4-12 1.9V operating at ~400Mhz will need to be set to 5-5-5-15 2.2V

 

3. Leave the rest of other timings either at ‘Auto’ or at their default values

 

Part3. Voltage (again not all BIOS will have the option or uses different name)

***The following voltages are to be used with Part4***

 

1. Set DRAM/DIMM Voltage (vDIMM) to 2.1V or 2.2V if specified by RAM (+0.3V or +0.4V)

2. Set MCH Voltage (vMCH) to 1.55V

3. Set FSB Voltage (vFSB) to 1.40V

4. Increase SB Voltage (vICH) by +0.1V from default-lowest value

5. Set CPU Voltage (vCore) for the following CPU

 

E6300=1.370V E6400=1.375V E6600=1.400V E6700=1.400V X6800=1.400V

 

Part4. Frequency Control

First attempt:

1. Set CPU Host Clock/Frequency (FSB) to 333Mhz (300Mhz for X6800)

2. Set CPU Clock Ratio or Multiplier to the default value for your processor

 

E6300-> 333x7=2331

E6400-> 333x8=2664

E6600-> 333x9=2997

E6700-> 333x10=3330

X6800-> 310x11=3410

 

3. Save settings and reboot

 

Further attempts:

1. Up even more FSB by 5Mhz or 2Mhz increasement

2. Calculate your final clockspeed

3. Up even more vCore if needed by 0.025V increasement

 

 

Part5. Stability Testing

You will need the following programs:

- CPU-Z

- Prime95

- Memtest86+

- Core Temp

- SpeedFan

 

1. Fire up CPU-Z and keep it running in the background to monitor clock speed

2. Fire up Core Temp to monitor temperature

3. Fire up SpeedFan to monitor voltages

3. Run dual instances of Prime95 in torture mode for 2 hours

4. (Optional) Run Memtest86+ for 2hrs

5. If stable go to Part4-Further Attempts, if not go back to last stable frequency

6. Once you’re happy with the settings proceed to the final part

 

Note1: The higher the final clock speed, the lower the temperature for CPU has to be to maintain stableness

 

Note2: Delta of Idle-Load reported by Core Temp should not exceed by 26°C

 

Note3: vCore should not fluctuate by more than +/- 0.100V. If it does, improve cooling on MOSFETs

 

Note4: If an attempt fails and the computer doesn’t boot, hold down ‘Insert’ key when booting to restore default settings in BIOS

 

Part6. Finalising

-Lower vCore by one notch at a time until lowest possible while maintaining the same stableness

-Do the same for vMCH, vFSB, vICH after the above step is completed

-Record the BIOS settings which works (except DFI and ASUS owners)

-(Optional) Pull off a PCMark and/or SuperPi32M score and compare to stock to gauge performance increase.

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hmmm. i updated bios but i'm still getting restarts..... but now when i updated bios it loads into windows and i get an "Catalyst control center Monitoring program error and needs to close" no idea what that is but after i hit end my screen goes to S*#T :helpsmilie:

 

Have you done clean installs of ATI Drivers? Meaning, have you gotten rid of everything ATI related through "add/remove programs" then used a program like Driver Cleaner Pro to clean up remaining traces of the previous driver? Heck, I think there's even a tool from ATI to remove everything (Mustang! where are you? lol)

 

 

 

As for the overclock here's what I see needs to be done.

 

For sure disable Vanderpool and raise your PCI Express Frequency to 105 then try again...

 

If Vanderpool is greyed out when you enter your bios then shutdown and unplug your PSU for about 30 seconds.

 

If problems still present Disable CPU TM, and Disable Execute Disable Bit

 

Still problems? Take you FSB Term Voltages and ICH voltages off auto and put them on the middle values.

 

333Mhz FSB should be a walk in the park with the above BIOS changes. Any further problems and im thinking a software problem.

 

Try Vanderpool first... then go through those changes... last thing we'll do is assume you have a droopy board and that your CPU actually isn't getting 1.4v on the Vcore

 

If you're still hitting a wall then come onto 3Sqn comms

 

P.S. Throw up a screen shot of your memory settings... under Northbridge Configuration

 

P.S.S One last thing, did you freeze your BSOD's so you could read them? What error messages were you getting at the bottom of the blue screen? Was it consistenly one thing or were there different error messages?

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Thanks for all your help guys... it was me not disabling the "execute Disable Bit" is what done it.. it works now.. i'll be doing alot of tests with prime 95 and some tweaks of voltages and stuff but for right now it seems very stable.

thank you so much guys :D works now

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ok i got some re-starts, but i forgot to take it back off of automatic restart so i'm doing that now and i'm going to re create the situation to see what the error says.

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ok i got some re-starts, but i forgot to take it back off of automatic restart so i'm doing that now and i'm going to re create the situation to see what the error says.

 

Copy that...

 

I would make the vanderpool and PCI Express frequency change and then wait for a few BSOD's (aka restarts)... get a good sample of what errors are being thrown at you and then make a decision on what needs to happen...

 

If the BSOD's are all ATI related... then you have a big clue lol

 

If they're mixed up you might start looking at RAM.

 

Do yourself a favor and speed the failure process up and grab something to speed up finding weaknesses.

 

Here's my current favorite... Blend is a good overall test, obviously lol

http://majorgeeks.com/Prime95_d4363.html

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Hey Fudd i got a blue screen... defiantly ATI!

 

it says that there is a problem with this .DLL i took a picture with my cell phone but i'm tired so i'll upload it tomorrow.

 

the culprit - ati3duag.dll

darn ATI, what do you think it is? or do you need more stuff from the blue screen? i'll upload pictures tomorrow, i'm back at stock speeds for now. freakin wierd things happening :P

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your memory voltage is too high (I use 1.95V)

Your vCore coltage is also bit high (I use 1.325V)

MCH would be your NB (north bridge) and set that to 1.45V

ICH would be your SB (south bridge) and set that to AUTO

 

Leave PCI-E to 100MHz (or up to 105)

 

Also leave RAM latencies to AUTO.

 

try them then get back with result... if any good.

 

EDIT: also, make sure you didn't install any new software/hardware while in proccess. I had Touchscreen/Touchbuddy software causing system restarts for me.

No longer active in DCS...

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Hey Fudd i got a blue screen... defiantly ATI!

 

it says that there is a problem with this .DLL i took a picture with my cell phone but i'm tired so i'll upload it tomorrow.

 

the culprit - ati3duag.dll

darn ATI, what do you think it is? or do you need more stuff from the blue screen? i'll upload pictures tomorrow, i'm back at stock speeds for now. freakin wierd things happening :P

 

Cool, thats one clue.... I would wait for two more BSODs to confirm. Until then I would google the hell out of "ati3duag.dll " and find a solution. The great thing about the web is that unless you're pioneering something then someone has had your problem before.

 

Until then be a bit wary, I wouldn't think an ATI dll problem would have you failing Prime and HCI memtest in under 5 seconds. I think there's more...

 

Like we talked about on comms I would still isolate your Ram Sticks to singles and try them in different slots.

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yea man but i dunno... i really think the ram is fine. when i get home i'll do a memtest on my ram without overclocking to see if there is a problem. if not i'm guessing its the Dll

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