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Hello,

 

its nearly impossible to click switches in the up-position when there is a cover over them.

 

I need to lean back completely and smash the mouse for like 30 times to find that one little pixel to reach the switch.

Hard to explain :(


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Hi!

 

Yeah, the hydraulic transfer switch and pump can be hard to reach with the guard up, either lean back or move your view back.

 

We're looking at ways of solving this but it's due to the cover covering the switch too much currently.

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I found that also, and it's generally not how guarded switches work, well not in Boeing 777 and 787 and 747 anyway. Can't 100% say for sure what they are like in any fighter aircraft.

 

There is usually a mechanism that as you push the guard back down, it flips the switch to its normal position, or it simply the design of the cover itself that does it.

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I found that also, and it's generally not how guarded switches work, well not in Boeing 777 and 787 and 747 anyway. Can't 100% say for sure what they are like in any fighter aircraft.

 

There is usually a mechanism that as you push the guard back down, it flips the switch to its normal position, or it simply the design of the cover itself that does it.

 

 

yeah like in the ka50

Main-Module: F-16C

Semi-Active-Modules: F/A-18C Hornet, F-14B, AJS37 Viggen, Mirage 2000C, UH-1D Huey, KA-50, SU-27, FW190, BF109, F-86, MIG-21, A-10C, C101, Gazelle, MI-8, SU-33

Maps:Syria,Persian Gulf, Caucasus, 1944 Normandy, NTTR

Hardware: VKB Gunfighter mk.2 Pro, Thrustmasters Wathog Throttle, VKB T-Rudder, Oculus Rift

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This is hell for people with no 3d tracking, I couldn't solve it without binding movement keys... please make a binding for it, or even better, just make it more lenient in its detection radius - I know it's a minimal issue, but it's actually a game breaking one for anyone looking to do a complete startup without trackir (I have just a Tobii 4c, no spatial movement)

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In VR I am about 50/50 sometimes I just have to try a couple of times.

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Key binding for this needed ASAP. I tried leaning back with Track IR and I still can't get it.

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In VR here as well. I have to lean my head in. Very odd position to get it to a viewable state. Setting it to high is fine it's bringing it back down that's hard and takes a bunch of clicks.

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Key binding for this needed ASAP. I tried leaning back with Track IR and I still can't get it.

 

Well after some toying around I used another view control using RCntrl+RShift+Numpad keys to pan/zoom the view in the cockpit.

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A solution. Just clicking over the guards they closed so the switch also go to the closed default position That way we can modify it.

Or just put a manipulator on the aft part of the guard that is only posible to manipulate when the guard is up.

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Try to aim your mouse pointer right at the base of the switch where it comes out of the control panel. Leaning over to the right so you can physically see where the switch comes out of the panel helps.

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Key binding for this needed ASAP. I tried leaning back with Track IR and I still can't get it.

Yes very hard, was a PITA first assisted startup yesterday, had to smach my mouse button multiple time to make it work

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One way to solve this coule be to make it so that the clicking the cover flips and reverts the switch under it to the NORM position. So all one would have to do to engage it is lif tthe cover and flip the switch, once done only flip the cover back down.

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One way to solve this coule be to make it so that the clicking the cover flips and reverts the switch under it to the NORM position. So all one would have to do to engage it is lif tthe cover and flip the switch, once done only flip the cover back down.

 

already mentioned...

 

A solution. Just clicking over the guards they closed so the switch also go to the closed default position That way we can modify it.

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Hi!

 

Yeah, the hydraulic transfer switch and pump can be hard to reach with the guard up, either lean back or move your view back.

 

We're looking at ways of solving this but it's due to the cover covering the switch too much currently.

 

In my experience, the covers are shaped in a way that if you close them, you actuate the switch back with them. Hence I was confused why we can't just close the cover, and it puts the switch back into normal.

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Yes, this is a real pain. I have the exact same issue with the Emergency Flight Hydraulic switch nearby.

Very, very difficult in TrackIR, but effectively impossible in VR.

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Or make the guard flip up higher.

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First off, AMAZING JOB GENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hands down the dream I have been waiting for since I was a kid back in the day of Janes USNF and Fleet Defender.

 

Second, for the love of god fix the Hydraulic Transfer Pump switch like the guys are saying here. I only do realistic start ups and I have tried every way/view possible and it is a crap shoot if I can get it back to normal or not. Turning it off is no problem, it is going back to normal. You gents fix this and we will be good to go.

 

Absolutely love the Tomcat guys, I can not stress this enough. I have gents at work ready to start buying DCS now. Looking forward to the A-6 next Hahahaha!!!!!

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Yeah, I feel like I want to qualify every minor gripe I report on here. This is hands down the most impressive module I've ever seen and I've been in DCS since Black Shark was launched, and I'm so pleased for Heatblur that it's come good after such a long development.

 

Also, please fix the hydraulic transfer pump switch guys! >_<

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