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Chizh is apparently talking about a Black Shark 3 upgrade in the russian forum as Silver Dragon noticed:

 

I'm not sure what I should make of that? :huh:

 

 

Edit: Chizh has deleted his comments now. :music_whistling:


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Not sure but expected a update to a Ka-50N "Night Shark" or Ka-50Sh?

 

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And is going to be a payed one.

 

I've already payed for BS1, then BS2 and now is official, BS3 as a payed one.

 

I cant express myself how disappointed i feel. I hope for previous owners-payers of several consecutive versions of BS some sort of discount or fair gest could be made.

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The graphics upgrade for BS2 should still come for free this year though.

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Thats not my conclusion reading the russian thread but is better to wait for some official statements. I dont like to speculate.

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BS2 appeared on 2011, I've had 7 years to play with her, during which it has been adapted by ED to run on newer versions of DCS with no extra charge, and I've enjoyed using her all these years ... and I fully expect that ED will still update her cockpit for free, if noting else than to adapt it better to 2.5 graphics changes.

 

So, if they came out with an improved variant of the BS, I've no problem with paying for it .. I realize that the development costs have to be covered, and I expect that BS3 will too be updated for free for many years to come :)

 

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"Originally Posted by -Slayer-

Do I guess everything correctly by CHA-3:

- Needles

- BKO

- Electrics and possibly other unrealized things.

- Real ins (errors, etc.)

- new cockpit

- New external model

Maybe something else will be?

Yes, except ins. However, maybe her hands will reach.

While in terms of missile explosives and defense system."

 

The translation is pretty bad, but there will be a new cockpit and external model, plus some systems.

 

"Пока в плане ракеты ВВ и оборонная система."

 

Apparently some air to air missiles (they mention R-73 but I'd presume Igla-V?) and defensive systems as well? Would that be another variant or another prototype airframe?

 

Not sure what BKO stands for?

 

I don't mind paying for these if there is some fair discount for the owners of BS2.

 

I remember being annoyed about paying for the BS1-> BS2 upgrade which seemed quite limited in scope and came in a rather short time period, but that was so long ago that I understand they need to charge for any further updates.


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Chizh has deleted his comments now :music_whistling:

 

 

Apparently some air to air missiles (they mention R-73 but I'd presume Igla-V?) and defensive systems as well? Would that be another variant or another prototype airframe?

 

Not sure what BKO stands for?

Maybe the defense systems might also include a RWR? Maybe that's what BKO stands for?

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BKO is mentioned at Wikipedia

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missile_approach_warning_system

 

as President-S (BKO) from KRET and Scientific-Research Institute Ekran

 

which might be interesting

 

Л-370Э50 seems to be a version for the Ka-50

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Oh, it's now a RWR, but an MWS. That would be a great addition as well!

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Only two Ka-50 were fitted with a MWS, bort 25 and i think bort 27

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that's a no then!

I don't think so. The plan for BS3 looked pretty solid in Chizhs comments and Chizh isn't just anyone. He's the producer. I guess it's just that those comments and the included information came a bit too early and in the wrong place. ;)

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BS2 appeared on 2011, I've had 7 years to play with her, during which it has been adapted by ED to run on newer versions of DCS with no extra charge, and I've enjoyed using her all these years ... and I fully expect that ED will still update her cockpit for free, if noting else than to adapt it better to 2.5 graphics changes.

 

So, if they came out with an improved variant of the BS, I've no problem with paying for it .. I realize that the development costs have to be covered, and I expect that BS3 will too be updated for free for many years to come :)

 

Same. I've had more than my money's worth out of BS-1 & 2.

 

But...the situation is different for BS-3. If you didn't want to upgrade BS-2 then you could continue using BS-1 standalone. But if you don't want/can't upgrade to BS-3 then what happens?

 

But this is all speculation so....

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But...the situation is different for BS-3. If you didn't want to upgrade BS-2 then you could continue using BS-1 standalone. But if you don't want/can't upgrade to BS-3 then what happens?

 

BS2 is more or less working now, no? Just needs some cockpit fixes for the new lighting system.

 

I'd expect they'd implement those before BS3 is released, but I guess that would also depend on the amount of work required. Perhaps it makes no sense if it's a lot of double effort better focused on the BS3 upgrade.

 

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Not sure but expected a update to a Ka-50N "Night Shark" or Ka-50Sh?

 

I had hoped that this would happen for years. If it were, and Black Shark 3 would be made, I would gladly pay for it - but I agree, there has to be a different variant that adds to the experience. Ka-50N at the least.

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I feel it is fair to pay for BS3 and would gladly do it. No company can support and keep up to date 10 year old software, especially game, for no additional cost.

 

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Provided it's an update that substantiates it, absolutely.

 

I'm not sure I'd be able to justify putting down cash on a new cockpit alone, but if we got another variant with different capabilities? Absolutely.

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