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Beginning to think the Hornet stick is Vaporware...I know there are a few prototypes but no reason it's taken them a couple of years to work on a stick that has an exact design and dimensions...it's not like there is much of anything to test. If TM wanted to bring an add-on stick they already would have

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Well I'm really going to laugh if someone like Virpil beats them to market with a Hornet stick and steals away the potential market:D

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They do have a good amount of user base who has the warthog system, and it would be a shame to lose a chunk of that segment to someone else. But again this is a niche product so it probably won't bring in much revenue to begin with. Maybe an updated TM1600 system with more buttons, better gimbal, and cheaper price would make more sense since it would appeal to the mass.

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Well, some folks from China seem to be already on their way...

 

At $800+? I don't they will be much threat to Thrustmaster at that price point. If TM can offer a stick to swap onto the Warthog base (which I thought was the whole point of making it detachable) for ~$100, I think it'll be a hit. Being that it's been more than a year now since we've heard anything about it, I suspect there are manufacturing cost/pricing concerns holding it back. It was supposed to be released around the same time as the pendular rudder pedals... yet here we are, still no F-18 stick.

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At $800+? I don't they will be much threat to Thrustmaster at that price point. If TM can offer a stick to swap onto the Warthog base (which I thought was the whole point of making it detachable) for ~$100, I think it'll be a hit. Being that it's been more than a year now since we've heard anything about it, I suspect there are manufacturing cost/pricing concerns holding it back. It was supposed to be released around the same time as the pendular rudder pedals... yet here we are, still no F-18 stick.

 

 

But the throttle is more important. I mean other than "realism" of the button layout, there is nothing you CANNOT do with the Wathog stick.

 

But if that WinWing ships soon, they will lose customers for sure.

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But the throttle is more important. I mean other than "realism" of the button layout, there is nothing you CANNOT do with the Wathog stick.

 

But if that WinWing ships soon, they will lose customers for sure.

 

I agree. But I doubt that's why the F/A-18C stick hasn't shown up yet.

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I suspect this is now going to either ship with another Warthog bsse(which would be terrible considering the Warthog is now a very outdated design with plastic parts) or as part of a new HOTAS. The WinWing guys will steal a lot of this market even at $800-1000. That won't be much of a hurdle to a lot for a good quality set...

 

I really do feel like TM has missed the boat on this opportunity.

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Some news on Facebook.

 

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We thank you very much for your interest in this top-flight project! We are currently focusing all of our efforts on getting this officially-licensed development successfully off the ground.However, we’re not able to say any more about it at the moment. Thank you for your patience and understanding.

 

I don't think we'll see this stick anytime soon, Thrustmaster gear is focused too much on racing games and space sims nowadays.

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But the throttle is more important. I mean other than "realism" of the button layout, there is nothing you CANNOT do with the Wathog stick.

 

But if that WinWing ships soon, they will lose customers for sure.

 

 

 

 

Which brings me to my question...other than realism, which a sim isn't, why an F/A-18 stick again? I have to give up buttons...controls on my stick, and I just don't understand why I want to do that.

 

 

I pay for a better base, but a less-capable stick on the existing base?

 

 

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Which brings me to my question...other than realism, which a sim isn't, why an F/A-18 stick again? I have to give up buttons...controls on my stick, and I just don't understand why I want to do that.

 

 

I pay for a better base, but a less-capable stick on the existing base?

 

 

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Realistic 1:1 mapping of buttons and controls mainly. For VR its more immersive that way, there is a small disconnect when you look at the stick in VR and its different than what you feel button wise in your hand. Plus the F18 stick works with the harrier, and IIRC the F15 as well. So its a 3fer.

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Unreal...this should've been out a couple of years ago. TM just doesn't seem to care

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Unreal...this should've been out a couple of years ago. TM just doesn't seem to care

 

 

 

They’ve got everyone by the balls, why should they care to hurry it up? Up until this point, the new players just keep putting out Russian style grips or space sim style grips, so why should they care? Maybe the Chinese group that just surfaced will motivate them, but otherwise, I’m not surprised they aren’t in any hurry....there’s zero reason to be, for them.

 

 

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Which brings me to my question...other than realism, which a sim isn't, why an F/A-18 stick again? I have to give up buttons...controls on my stick, and I just don't understand why I want to do that.

 

 

I pay for a better base, but a less-capable stick on the existing base?

 

 

Help me out here...

 

The F/A-18C Hornet stick from TM has the same amount of buttons as the existing Warthog stick. You do not lose functions, buttons, etc.

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What, is the Recce Event Mark Switch a 4 way plus push button?

 

No. There is a three-position rocker below the castle switch. That plus the 5-way castle switch equals the same amount of inputs from the Hats on the Warthog e.g. TMS and DMS switches. All other buttons function the same as the existing ones on the Warthog.

 

No clue why the image is rotated the wrong way. It wasn't uploaded that way.

 

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They’ve got everyone by the balls, why should they care to hurry it up? Up until this point, the new players just keep putting out Russian style grips or space sim style grips, so why should they care? Maybe the Chinese group that just surfaced will motivate them, but otherwise, I’m not surprised they aren’t in any hurry....there’s zero reason to be, for them.

 

 

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Very true...disappointing. At this point the F-18 Grip from TM is vaporware. I really think if it does ever appear it will be paired to a base(which will be a no go for me) or as a complete Hotas which unless they've really stepped up to and above their peers like VKB and Virpil will also be a no go. If it's like the TPR pedals then we'll see. Those are a top tier product no doubt.

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No. There is a three-position rocker below the castle switch. That plus the 5-way castle switch equals the same amount of inputs from the Hats on the Warthog e.g. TMS and DMS switches. All other buttons function the same as the existing ones on the Warthog.

 

No clue why the image is rotated the wrong way. It wasn't uploaded that way.

 

Image is from the 2018 E3 convention.

 

 

 

Little still confused maybe. Maybe not.

 

 

 

WH: 1 8x, 1 5x, 2 4x, Pinky/lever/side/thumb buttons, 2 stage trigger

 

 

F18: 1 8x, 1 5x, 1 4x or is that 5 on the side?, 1 3x, pinky/lever/thumb/recce, 2 stage trigger

 

 

Honestly I'll bet I'm still a button shy because TM uses switches that only register throws, so the three position is probably only two in the game.

 

 

I don't use their software. Rather than add a layer of ThingsToGoWrong I use their controllers natively and make my own controllers (with real 3PST switches if necessary). My biggest argument against their throttle...it's neutered with those cheap switches.

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The three position is a forward and back rocker, and with depress. All function just fine in any game/title. It is an addition, not on a RL Hornet stick.

 

Paddle, NWS, REECE are single press buttons

Castle and Weapons select is 5-way

Trim is 8-way

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3-way rocker

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