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Can´t help myself. But I am achieving these fps with 1080ti on much higher settings (in multiplayer, oculus rift).

 

I feel like there is more problem in users. Everyone thinks how he undestands the hardware and software optimalization, but truth is loong other way.

 

In my past, the greatest upgrades were like 1 Dollar for heat conducting paste and renewing contact between procesor and cooler etc. Instantly cuts down loading times and increase fps.

Vacuum the pc case, and so on. But this is more about physics than hardware specifications.

 

Wait for real test from people which dont hesitate to spec whole system, and not just that they bought the 2080 ti. You don´t know what hardware generations he is mixing up, what parts he overclocked (destabilized mostly), and at what conditions he runs the complex system. Wait for hardware specialist tests.

 

 

I've seen at least one review where a guy even shows CPU limitations on an 8700k @5.0ghz @1080P and 1440P even with the 1080Ti (some games, others were more gpu hungry). I'm not going to link it because it contains other games and I don't want to break any forum rules, but 2080 and 2080Ti are the latest UWHQ/4k cards. I'm watching a review right now where the 2080 is gaining 20-30+ fps @4k using DLSS over a 1080Ti using TAA in more than one game. 40-45+ @4k on the 2080Ti.

 

So again, to me, the value is in whether or not game developers will step up and utilize this tech to improve performance with a new AA rendering technique on hardware designed for it. Otherwise we just aren't utilizing its full potential.

 

I honestly think nVidia should have put more effort into hyping DLSS than Ray Tracing.. Ray tracing is looking like it's going to take dye shrinks to make room for more RT cores to become mainstream with framerates gamers tend to find acceptable.

 

2080 without DLSS? On par with 1080Ti, 2080 with DLSS? 30 fps can mean alot especially if you're already sub 60fps, or using say VR.

 

Right now as it stands - don't expect the 2080 to outperform a 1080Ti in DCS by much if at all. If you're not already CPU limited, a 2080Ti will offer performance increases, but not quite $600 more performance. Buying a 2080 or 2080Ti series card right now is mostly about helping to adopt a new technology and huge epeen, or increased high res/vr performance.

 

but if somehow we managed to get DLSS implemented 2080 would smoke the 1080Ti.

 

Can PM me if you want links to the reviews I've mentioned.

 

Also things to consider are VR headset resolutions. I've a mate who says he gets away with about 1.2PD with high settings to achieve 45fps VR in DCS in his Vive Pro.. on my 980Ti I have to deal with lower textures/shadows to acheive the same at 1.0PD on my Odyssey (same native resolution on the Vive Pro.)

 

prior to that he was running a Vive above default PD on a 980Ti. YOu can also set supersampling from SteamVR itself so there are a lot of factors there.

 

For my purposes the 2080Ti is the fastest option available for me to crank those settings up. DCS is also not the only use I get out of a GPU. For me buying pascal just makes less sense. Not many things I buy new other than my PC components, and I tend to make them last. I'm obviously drooling about what DLSS could do for that experience in DCS.

 

For the time being, for someone who primarily uses their PC for DCS a used 1080Ti is probably best bang per buck. Chances are that unfortunately we won't see DLSS at all. (even if I want ED to be like HAH, you're wrong!)


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Hey,

 

I dont want to go any deep in it, I am not a specialist. I just said that there can be problems in users as well to have bad performance and misjudge something.

 

I run on 1.6 PD, SSMA 2x, high shadows, other setups are from high predefined option. But need to say that there is high ammount of variables affecting fps dramatically. In persian gulf it is mostly better. 45 in air, on ground 30+. In Caucasus with the high ammount of trees and traffic its 45 in air and on ground arround 30 but sometimes show lower but I dont find it annoying. I can handle rolling in 25 fps to have nice sensation when take off. Very fps depending is also the aircraft. Viggen is quite fps reducer, while FC3 aircrafts are no concern. Single player runs almost perfectly, while on full server aerobatics multiplayer where everyone smoking is worse. But almost everytime, when like 1000m AGL or out of airfield its 45 fps constantly.

 

The truth is that the PD in Rift and Odyssey varies in higher number achievable in rift i guess.

 

I am little skeptical about videos to prove graphic performance. The video making itself has its requirements and definetly doesnt help to achieve better.

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Just got in from work with an interesting email.

Ebuyer just had me revalidate my pre order, took my money and confirmed my order. Yippee. 2080TI should be in my hands before the week is out.


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A 2080ti on a 4790k? You should have spent that money on the rest of the system first or not at all. Or buy a modern cheap cpu and something like a 1070ti.i was not going to say anything but seeing these kinda of impulse buys caused an impulse on me. :)

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Just got in from work with an interesting email.

Ebuyer just had me revalidate my pre order, took my money and confirmed my order. Yippee. 2080TI should be in my hands before the week is out.

 

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Did a fast test:

 

best regards.

If you like me to test some other settings and post to youtube, il do it.

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A 2080ti on a 4790k? You should have spent that money on the rest of the system first or not at all. Or buy a modern cheap cpu and something like a 1070ti.i was not going to say anything but seeing these kinda of impulse buys caused an impulse on me. :)

 

 

It certainly did didn't it.

 

 

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Did a fast test:

 

best regards.

If you like me to test some other settings and post to youtube, il do it.

Hi,

can you please do more tests DCS and publish at the same time recording the flight *.trk file. Thank you very much. Pet

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can you please do more tests DCS and publish at the same time recording the flight *.trk file. Thank you very much. Pet

 

You like me to change graphic settings and record the same track that i linkt to?

Yes il do that to morrow.

 

Il post here

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Could not resist any longer. My local shop somehow got stock of the MSI 2080 ti Gaming X Trio. Hopefully my Rift will be happier to give good fps with MSAA X 2 and some SS (Got 1080ti now, got the 2080ti to cater for the pimax 5k more than anything else. I am not a backer, hopefully they become available before the 3080ti!)

 

Will post here a brief 1080ti vs 2080ti DCS VR. (Not planning to do extensive testing though)

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HI,

thanks for sharing, well the same usual "trackir " stuttering when panning around is stilll present, and the fps of a 1080ti compared to a 2080ti are IDENTICAL....

 

 

There ie ZERO performance gain from a 1080ti to a 2080ti at least in 2D@2K resolution.

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I wouldn’t be surprised if the single CPU core use is now an even bigger bottleneck.

Hopefully the work on the standalone server and Vulkan will relieve some of that and let the RTX caress strut their stuff.

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Could not resist any longer. My local shop somehow got stock of the MSI 2080 ti Gaming X Trio. Hopefully my Rift will be happier to give good fps with MSAA X 2 and some SS (Got 1080ti now, got the 2080ti to cater for the pimax 5k more than anything else. I am not a backer, hopefully they become available before the 3080ti!)

 

Will post here a brief 1080ti vs 2080ti DCS VR. (Not planning to do extensive testing though)

 

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Please do!

 

Unfortunately, I did not realize it only has one HDMI and the rest are all DP. (And the virtual link usb-c)

 

So I can connect only my monitor, or the HMD, and the one does not work without the other. Interestingly, I have a usb-c to hdmi that I use with my laptop. When I plug that into the usb-c port on the 2080 ti, the screen shows nothing, but if I plug the HMD's HDMI into the adapter, it shows the image, but it has a bunch of weird pink lines all over the image.

 

I should be able to get a displayport cable to connect my screen tomorrow, freeing the hdmi up for the rift.

 

I suck at waiting though :(

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A 2080ti on a 4790k? You should have spent that money on the rest of the system first or not at all. Or buy a modern cheap cpu and something like a 1070ti.i was not going to say anything but seeing these kinda of impulse buys caused an impulse on me. :)

 

Hi,

 

I have the same CPU and investigating options to upgrade to a new i7 and the review comparisons (purely for gaming) show only a 10-15% improvement. When considering costs for RAM, MB etc etc that seems like a big outlay for minimal performance increase; Am I missing something in your statement?

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I have done some more tests with the RTX2080TI. Interesting that shadows have such great influence? Is it too heavy for the CPU?

 

Test 1 Nice FPS

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Test 3 Not Nice FPS?

 

 

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Hi all

 

I have done some more tests with the RTX2080TI. Interesting that shadows have such great influence? Is it too heavy for the CPU?

 

Test 1 Nice FPS

Test 2 Nice FPS

Test 3 Not Nice FPS?

 

 

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Hi,

 

I have the same CPU and investigating options to upgrade to a new i7 and the review comparisons (purely for gaming) show only a 10-15% improvement. When considering costs for RAM, MB etc etc that seems like a big outlay for minimal performance increase; Am I missing something in your statement?

Thanks

Neal

 

Your talking about CPu reviews that in order to evaluate their speed a 1080Ti was used in all tests (the fastest GPU then). We are doing something totally different here, therefore those 10-15% improvement is an invalid point of reference and may/will be misleading compared to what youll actually get. We are talking about new GPU improvements with different CPU's. The performance improvement potential seen with a 2080Ti will only be as good as the CPU backing it up, with some additional caveats.

 

According to GPU eviews an 8700K will bottleneck a 2080Ti @ 1080p with DX11 API (this is because a single CPU thread is used to feed the graphics card), therefore you should see reduced performance improvement in most games in those conditions compared to 1080Ti. The story goes on to say that the CPU bottleneck disappears and shifts back to the 2080Ti when DX12 or Vulkan is used on a modern game engine that can use more CPU threads for rendering, or when resolution is 4K (regardless of the API). In those conditions the 2080Ti does pull away said 20%-35%

 

So your only chance is to have an 8700K and an 4K display to play in DX12/Vulkan, otherwise the 2080Ti is massive money waste. Taking this in consideration anyone who buys 2080Ti and keeps the old 4790k CPU is going to be more disappointed.


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It certainly did didn't it.

 

 

See post 37.

 

"Politics of envy?" :huh: I paused and then giggled a bit.

 

let me tell you a tale, this was back in the 1990's. They launched a new 3D accelerator called PowerVR and reviewers said it was so promising it "could" become the dominant 3D chipset above the established 3Dfx.

I ran to buy It. 3 months later it dropped price to less than half and I was still waiting for games beyond a few half baked demos. A couple years after PowerVR was no more.

 

Lesson learned: NEVER AGAIN WILL I BE AN EARLY ADOPTER.

 

Specially when you get some reviewers writing in fat letters to "BUY IT NOW". Im not kiding, toms hardware wrote this pre launch (Tom no longer on-board) as did tweaktown after launch.

 

Facts dont care about envy. And facts are laid out behind the BS filters and some more trustworthy reviewers. Unless you have DLLS games (which you dont) that 50% price hike will never be matched by 50% improvement (and thats only valid with a potent computer to install it in). All the buyers are doing is giving in to impulse buys even if they have old computers. The only thing I feel is not envy but rather am appalled and negatively amazed at the same time that this instinct is embedded in us and taken advantage of by big corporations all the time. The continuation of these practices over time continues to harm us customers.


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A 2080ti on a 4790k? You should have spent that money on the rest of the system first or not at all. Or buy a modern cheap cpu and something like a 1070ti.i was not going to say anything but seeing these kinda of impulse buys caused an impulse on me. :)

 

 

The 4790k is today still one of the fastest cpu`s around. A 2080ti is not going to bottleneck it bar you are running games at 1080p, where an 8700k would also be in the same position. Not to mention you`d want to be put out to pasture if you were using a 2080ti for 1080 gaming. The i7 4790k is more than adequate for the job. Utilization of resources is the problem.

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thanks for sharing, well the same usual "trackir " stuttering when panning around is stilll present, and the fps of a 1080ti compared to a 2080ti are IDENTICAL....

 

 

There ie ZERO performance gain from a 1080ti to a 2080ti at least in 2D@2K resolution.

 

Try running without MSAA and enable SSAA. Basically increases the resolution which should get around any cpu limitations @1440p.

 

8700k in some dx11 titles @ 5.0ghz has ended up cpu limited with a 1080Ti @1080P and @1440p in reviews I've watched. 4k res should be a different story and I'd imagine VR as well (slightly higher pixel density). I don't know if it will provide framerates as high as your 1080Ti/8700k provided @1440P, but it should perform at higher framerates than your 1080Ti @1440p + SSAA on both cards.

 

 

If you're only interest is DCS as it is right now, make sure you're already GPU limited before upgrading, but a 2080Ti should offer better performance with enough supersampling to put the 1080Ti at 99%, which you still may be happy with the results of your 1080Ti in that regard, but the 2080Ti is a 4k card.

 

Until the 1080Ti 1080P was the resolution we were most likely to see a CPU limitation. Now apparently we've moved up to 5ghz and 1440p. Disregarding VR.


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"Politics of envy?" :huh: I paused and then giggled a bit.

 

let me tell you a tale, this was back in the 1990's. They launched a new 3D accelerator called PowerVR and reviewers said it was so promising it "could" become the dominant 3D chipset above the established 3Dfx.

I ran to buy It. 3 months later it dropped price to less than half and I was still waiting for games beyond a few half baked demos. A couple years after PowerVR was no more.

 

 

Lesson learned: NEVER AGAIN WILL I BE AN EARLY ADOPTER.

 

Specially when you get some reviewers writing in fat letters to "BUY IT NOW". Im not kiding, toms hardware wrote this pre launch (Tom no longer on-board) as did tweaktown after launch.

 

Facts dont care about envy. And facts are laid out behind the BS filters and some more trustworthy reviewers. Unless you have DLLS games (which you dont) that 50% price hike will never be matched by 50% improvement (and thats only valid with a potent computer to install it in). All the buyers are doing is giving in to impulse buys even if they have old computers. The only thing I feel is not envy but rather am appalled and negatively amazed at the same time that this instinct is embedded in us and taken advantage of by big corporations all the time. The continuation of these practices over time continues to harm us customers.

 

 

 

It's exactly the opposite. Here's another example Price gouging during storms are HIGHLY frowned upon, but in reality, price gouging is what brings needed service into an affected area. The extra charge means that someone will take the extra effort to bring goods into an area that would otherwise not have the ability to buy goods.

 

Likewise, early adopters allow the company to continue to invest so that the masses can enjoy the fruit of the early adopter.

 

Another example is the frequent business travelers who have no choice to buy the tickets at the last minute allow the regular travelers to enjoy the cheaper (advance purchase) tickets.

 

Remember, some people would say flight sim'ing is a COMPLETE waste of time because it serves no purpose. Except that it brings pleasure/fun to many many of us.

 

It's all in the eye of the beholder.

 

Finally, there are reviewers who said "don't buy it, it's a gimmick" who then posted "OMG, sorry, I messed up, BUY IT" But it was for 4K gaming. If you have a bottleneck of 1080P resolution, or CPU, or unoptimized game, 2080Ti would be a waste of time. But so would an 8700K for the same reason. You have a bottleneck that limits what the bleeding edge HW can provide.

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"Politics of envy?" :huh: I paused and then giggled a bit.

 

let me tell you a tale, this was back in the 1990's. They launched a new 3D accelerator called PowerVR and reviewers said it was so promising it "could" become the dominant 3D chipset above the established 3Dfx.

I ran to buy It. 3 months later it dropped price to less than half and I was still waiting for games beyond a few half baked demos. A couple years after PowerVR was no more.

 

Lesson learned: NEVER AGAIN WILL I BE AN EARLY ADOPTER.

 

Specially when you get some reviewers writing in fat letters to "BUY IT NOW". Im not kiding, toms hardware wrote this pre launch (Tom no longer on-board) as did tweaktown after launch.

 

Facts dont care about envy. And facts are laid out behind the BS filters and some more trustworthy reviewers. Unless you have DLLS games (which you dont) that 50% price hike will never be matched by 50% improvement (and thats only valid with a potent computer to install it in). All the buyers are doing is giving in to impulse buys even if they have old computers. The only thing I feel is not envy but rather am appalled and negatively amazed at the same time that this instinct is embedded in us and taken advantage of by big corporations all the time. The continuation of these practices over time continues to harm us customers.

 

 

 

I'll take that and the rest of your advice under advisement since my 4790k currently has a 75- 85% overhead running DCS on high settings with my existing 980TI and VR(1x physical core 2x logical core performance). How much of that overhead gets used up by the 2080TI remains to be seen, but I am betting it will not be double my current 15 - 20% utilisation. 80% of the useful VR settings in DCS are handled by GPU alone.

 

And Vulkan IS coming to DCS, so why would I waste money on hardware that will be perfectly adequate in a few months time anyway.

 

My 980ti suffers from a VRAM shortage, so why should I not get the latest and greatest card with DLSS for future proofing, not just for DCS, but other games too. I can afford it and it is currently sat on my desk waiting to be installed.

 

I suggest a little introspection as to the real motives of your post. Nothing you stated actually adds up when applied to real world scenarios and my circumstances in particular.


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I'll take that and the rest of your advice under advisement since my 4790k currently has a 75- 85% overhead running DCS on high settings with my existing 980TI and VR. How much of that overhead gets used up by the 2080TI remains to be seen, but I am betting it will not be double my current 15 - 20% utilisation. 80% of the useful VR settings in DCS are handled by GPU alone.

 

And Vulkan IS coming to DCS, so why would I waste money on hardware that will be perfectly adequate in a few months time anyway.

 

My 980ti suffers from a VRAM shortage, so why should I not get the latest and greatest card with DLSS for future proofing, not just for DCS, but other games too. I can afford it and it is currently sat on my desk waiting to be installed.

 

I suggest a little introspection as to the real motives of your post. Nothing you stated actually adds up when applied to real world scenarios and my circumstances in particular.

 

Get more supersampling out of your rift. ;)

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Get more supersampling out of your rift. ;)

 

I currently run Rift at 1.8PD on my admittedly heavily OC and slightly unstable 980TI. It is certainly something I am considering to get GPU utilisation up, depending on how it is performing vs CPU.

 

Trouble is, PD suffers from the law of diminishing returns, but I will experiment with it and report back.

 

Not sure if SSAA or MSAA would actually do anything helpful with Rift and not sure how it would impact CPU performance. Be nice if someone could advise on this as currently I do not use it. Be nice to be able to use Normandy without the shimmering trees.

I do have a lot of overhead on my CPU but I still do not want to squander it on relatively small improvements or placebos.

 

I intend to leave draw distance alone since most of my missions are in moonlight as that will impact the CPU. Currently IIRC, draw distance is very high, if that setting is the one below ultra.

Likewise shadows. Currently shadows are medium and terrain shadows on flat. CPU would be affected, but again I will experiment with it and report back.

 

Currently I reckon I am lucky to see 30 genuine fps without ASW, so 50fps would be an absolute dream.

 

I will post back with screenshots of performance, overhead and settings in due course. Probably be the weekend before I get around to installing it.


Edited by Tinkickef

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