hideki2 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Hey! As in the title. Rb04 does acquires a target tracks perfectly hit and nothing. That is my experience 3 out of 4 times. Is it really how ineffective it is ment to be? I remember commenting on that more than a year ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudel_chw Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 This is from a test made on the latest OpenBeta, using Rb04(AI): For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600X - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia GTX1070ti - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar - Oculus Rift CV1 Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A10Yoda Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Hey! As in the title. Rb04 does acquires a target tracks perfectly hit and nothing. That is my experience 3 out of 4 times. Is it really how ineffective it is ment to be? I remember commenting on that more than a year ago. I had to look up information again and saw that the RB-04 is a 660 lb (Imperial) Warhead. Which means it can do catastrophic damage to a war ships hull. That said, I have noticed the Rb-15 appear to do more damage in DCS which is only a 440 lb (Imperial) warhead. I saw a recent update to the Viggen stating they had recently changed the warheads of these weapons. I originally thought the RB15 had more, but was surprised to also see that the RB-04 should have more pop to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzgerov Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 It sinks merchants just fine but needs a couple to take out small warships. Large ships it only damages. RB-15 better for ...well everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baco Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Well it makes sense, warships hace compartments that can be sealed, and much more efficient crews to contain damage... merchants with just a hole, will go down no matter what... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A10Yoda Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 See I think this is an issue. The Rb-15 is a longer range weapon but the warhead is under 500 lbs (440 lbs). The Rb-04 is a similar style warhead but contains almost 700 lbs of explosive. The Rb-04 should be out preforming the 15 in damage.It sinks merchants just fine but needs a couple to take out small warships. Large ships it only damages. RB-15 better for ...well everything. Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Well it makes sense, warships hace compartments that can be sealed, and much more efficient crews to contain damage... merchants with just a hole, will go down no matter what... That's actually not the case. Merchant ships and especially tankers are beeing built to very high standards in this regard, which are required by international regulations. This includes a second hull, that keeps the ship sealed and afloat in case of damage to the outer hull. This is usally not the case for warships. A good example of this are the two collisions of US Navy destroyers with merchant vessels in the pacific last year, where the USS Fitzgerald and the USS John S. McCain took substantial damage resulting in the death of 7 and 10 US navy sailors respectively. The damage on the merchant vessels on the other hand was rather minor in comparison (see attached pictures). USS Fitzgerald: USS John S. McCain: ACX Crystal that collided with the USS Fitzgerald: Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FS Voodoo Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 This kind of missile are not build to destroy ship but to damage or set on fire. It's more straits for a naval force to manage a injured ship beacause you need a lot of boat to help him. See the Sheffield History during the Falklands War. If you want to sink a ship, a torpedo is most suitable =). [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "Fighter Pilots make movies, Bomber Pilots make History" http://veaw4.fr/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanOfALF Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 A AJ37 pilot wrote in a forum that warships was not their main target, they wanted to take out the transport ships. Usually they were in formation in the middle between escort warships. Transports was the main target, as they were a bigger threat as they had troops that could invade. As he said, warships doesn't invade. So that's what the Rb04 and tactics was used for, if I'm to believe the pilot. Regards FanOfALF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDontLikeBigbrother Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 RB04 has a shaped charge warhead which is not very effective against ships: 1 The shaped charge warhead needs to explode at an exact height above the target to aquire the best result. However a ship is not a flat suface. 2 The damage method of shaped charge warhead is not effective against ships. A shaped charge warhead is effective against a tank because a tank has a very compact inside, those important parts are very close to each other. However, a ship is very big, so a shaped charge may just hit some kitchens or restrooms. Maybe a more violent way is better for antiship role:simply tear the structure apart with a big bomb---- use HE warheads. And I think think that is why rb15 choose this type of warhead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
microvax Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 The russians still had some ships with 100mm sidearmor in some places during the time the RB04 was designed, that lead to the top down shaped charge attack. Later on the RBS15 like most missiles is a semi armor piercing blast frag warhead that penetrates the structure and explodes inside, obviously causing a lot more damage. Against heavily armored ships the rb04 should fair better still. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] *unexpected flight behaviour* Oh shiii*** ! What ? Why ? What is happening ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hideki2 Posted September 17, 2018 Author Share Posted September 17, 2018 The RB04 has been vastly improved in the latest OB update. Thanks devs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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