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No, I use the MFDs for F1, F2, F10, Kneeboard/+/- etc. Pretty much anything that is not in the cockpit is on the MFDs, mostly system buttons. I use buttons on the Warthog for gear, engine start (Home Key) that kind of stuff. But if I can click on it in the cockpit I use my finger lasers. Course, I do have four more MFDs on a shelf.

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No, I use the MFDs for F1, F2, F10, Kneeboard/+/- etc. Pretty much anything that is not in the cockpit is on the MFDs, mostly system buttons. I use buttons on the Warthog for gear, engine start (Home Key) that kind of stuff. But if I can click on it in the cockpit I use my finger lasers. Course, I do have four more MFDs on a shelf.

 

Appreciated your input, after reading this post and Discord, I noticed many users are selling their devices and sticking to PointCTRL only.

I have several(Saitek panel, 3 MFDs, A-10 UFC...) so want to plan in advance if I have to make substantial modification to my cockpit once PointrCTRL unit arrives.

 

Thanks again.

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I sold my Mfds. I did think I could position and sort of use with pointctrl, but couldn't get it to work i realised it was a waste of time. Just use pointctrl.

I do have a small keyboard close, and have stuck some tabs over the f1, f5, and F10 keys so I can find them easily.

 

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I sold my Mfds. I did think I could position and sort of use with pointctrl, but couldn't get it to work i realised it was a waste of time. Just use pointctrl.

I do have a small keyboard close, and have stuck some tabs over the f1, f5, and F10 keys so I can find them easily.

 

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Thank you!

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While I still have my MFDs, I stopped building the extra switch boxes I had planned and don't really use the MFDs. With a VR headset on it's faster to use PointCtrl for the MFDs for me. The only time the other physical switches are needed is when I don't want to take the time to look away from what I'm doing to click it on with PointCtrl, like configuring the airplane to land in the carrier pattern. I could still do it pretty easily and actually maybe faster still than finding the physical buttons and switches blind, but on some rare occasions you may sacrifice speed for looking outside the cockpit.

 

The buttons are handy and very natural for the salute command for the catapult and NVG on/gain adjustments.

 

I was very happy to see PointCtrl in use with the USAF in that video, congrats Miles!

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While I still have my MFDs, I stopped building the extra switch boxes I had planned and don't really use the MFDs. With a VR headset on it's faster to use PointCtrl for the MFDs for me. The only time the other physical switches are needed is when I don't want to take the time to look away from what I'm doing to click it on with PointCtrl, like configuring the airplane to land in the carrier pattern. I could still do it pretty easily and actually maybe faster still than finding the physical buttons and switches blind, but on some rare occasions you may sacrifice speed for looking outside the cockpit.

 

The buttons are handy and very natural for the salute command for the catapult and NVG on/gain adjustments.

 

I was very happy to see PointCtrl in use with the USAF in that video, congrats Miles!

 

Really appreciated your input, thanks. In fact I stopped working on my Hornet UFC and Viper ICP, which were summer projects, as my number in the waiting list has come closer.

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Really appreciated your input, thanks. In fact I stopped working on my Hornet UFC and Viper ICP, which were summer projects, as my number in the waiting list has come closer.

 

Yeah, especially for the ICPs/UFCs. If you only fly one aircraft, you build muscle memory for all the blind physical button mashing I think it might be faster. But as soon as you switch models, being able to see what's going on with them with the different button layouts is faster.

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Hey Harlikwin,

 

FireCat says you keep your original number for v2. So when v2 comes out and you want to upgrade, you don't have to wait. When v2 production starts shipping, the list should go very fast, so the point should be moot.

 

Thanks for your patience and continued support,

 

Miles

 

Patently waiting for v2 myself

 

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Ok, I’ve not been on DCS and therefore used PointCTRL for a few weeks and now it’s not working.

 

I was fiddling with an Arduino recently and was changing com ports here and there so I don’t know if I’ve done something there or not.

 

I’ve been back to try and re-set everything back up without luck. I change the port (only 1 of the 9 available turns green), press the number 2 button and it will not connect.

 

For a while Windows gave me a message that the device was not recognised but this no longer happens. Plugging it into my Star.com powered hub, the USB port light comes on briefly then goes off - I’ve tried many different USB ports.

 

In device manager it says Device Descriptor request failed (code 43).

 

The PointCTRL HMD has a red light (is it supposed to have a green light as well?)

 

Hope anyone can help.

 

Thanks

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Ok, I’ve not been on DCS and therefore used PointCTRL for a few weeks and now it’s not working.

 

I was fiddling with an Arduino recently and was changing com ports here and there so I don’t know if I’ve done something there or not.

 

I’ve been back to try and re-set everything back up without luck. I change the port (only 1 of the 9 available turns green), press the number 2 button and it will not connect.

 

For a while Windows gave me a message that the device was not recognised but this no longer happens. Plugging it into my Star.com powered hub, the USB port light comes on briefly then goes off - I’ve tried many different USB ports.

 

In device manager it says Device Descriptor request failed (code 43).

 

The PointCTRL HMD has a red light (is it supposed to have a green light as well?)

 

Hope anyone can help.

 

Thanks

 

You could also try Discord channel, maybe more users can read your issue there.

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Ok, I’ve not been on DCS and therefore used PointCTRL for a few weeks and now it’s not working.

 

I was fiddling with an Arduino recently and was changing com ports here and there so I don’t know if I’ve done something there or not.

 

I’ve been back to try and re-set everything back up without luck. I change the port (only 1 of the 9 available turns green), press the number 2 button and it will not connect.

 

For a while Windows gave me a message that the device was not recognised but this no longer happens. Plugging it into my Star.com powered hub, the USB port light comes on briefly then goes off - I’ve tried many different USB ports.

 

In device manager it says Device Descriptor request failed (code 43).

 

The PointCTRL HMD has a red light (is it supposed to have a green light as well?)

 

Hope anyone can help.

 

Thanks

 

Hey Mr Mojo,

 

Voice Assist will only recognize PointCTRL when its using in ports 1 thru 10. If you were programing arduinos, there may be a lot of unused populated com ports.

 

If you haven't already, I would try unplugging PointCTRL and removing all of the unused devices as in the pic below. Then plug PointCTRL back in and update the firmware. The PointCTRL firmware may be corrupted by accidentally uploading to the PointCTRL port with the arduino IDE.

 

I would also check the USB connector on the HMS, we had had several of them fail if they get stressed.

 

Let me know how you make out, we wil get it sorted, Its best to catch me in the discord for PoitCTRL support.

 

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Ok, I got it now. You were right, it was a firmware issue. Reinstalled the latest firmware and manually changed the COM port - as soon as I pressed button 2 on the HMD it connected. Everything is back to normal.

Thanks, Miles

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Any idea on when the list will be moving again?

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I am focusing on v2 right now, have been working hard at it, and should be posting some updates soon. My quarantine is over from my trip, and Los' son Miles, is starting work again today, so things should pick up again.

 

Again, thank you everyone for your patience and support.

 

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I am focusing on v2 right now, have been working hard at it, and should be posting some updates soon. My quarantine is over from my trip, and Los' son Miles, is starting work again today, so things should pick up again.

 

Again, thank you everyone for your patience and support.

 

Miles

 

that´s great news!

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I am focusing on v2 right now, have been working hard at it, and should be posting some updates soon. My quarantine is over from my trip, and Los' son Miles, is starting work again today, so things should pick up again.

 

Again, thank you everyone for your patience and support.

 

Miles

 

Will the V1 waiters be automatically moved to the V2 list? Are you going to stop production of the V1?

 

 

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Will the V1 waiters be automatically moved to the V2 list? Are you going to stop production of the V1?

 

 

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Hey Harlequin420,

 

PointCTRL v2 is replacing v1, It's the same list for v1 and v2, it will just pick up by lowest number first. v2 is much easier to produce, so hopefully I will get through this list soon, build inventory, and just go just live on the web site with same day shipping.

 

Thanks for the question,

 

Miles

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Hey Harlequin420,

 

PointCTRL v2 is replacing v1, It's the same list for v1 and v2, it will just pick up by lowest number first. v2 is much easier to produce, so hopefully I will get through this list soon, build inventory, and just go just live on the web site with same day shipping.

 

Thanks for the question,

 

Miles

 

Awesome! Two more short questions and I’ll stop bugging you. I’m about ~50 away on the list. But since ordering I now have my G2 coming and a Pimax 8KX. So a) can we order 2 when our number is called and b) are all the kits basically the same (since when I ordered it was for my Oculus Quest) and now have new/different VR devices that aren’t listed on your supported list yet...?

 

 

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Awesome! Two more short questions and I’ll stop bugging you. I’m about ~50 away on the list. But since ordering I now have my G2 coming and a Pimax 8KX. So a) can we order 2 when our number is called and b) are all the kits basically the same (since when I ordered it was for my Oculus Quest) and now have new/different VR devices that aren’t listed on your supported list yet...?

 

 

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Hey Harlequin420,

 

You are certainly not bugging me. As I have said before, I do this because I enjoy being part of this community. The best part of the whole PointCTRL thing is when I am on discord voice/screen share with you guys and you use PointCTRL for the first time. Even though it's a simple device, and a pain to make, the reaction is always well worth the efforts.

 

I keep updating the HMS mounts as new VR Headsets come out. When your number is up, that's when you specify which mount you want. As far as ordering 2 sets, If I have enough units, you can order 2 if you like. Like I said, when v2 production starts it should go fast.

 

Thanks,

 

Miles

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certainly not bugging me

 

Course it is bugging him. He has started to drink. Heavily. Hanging out with undesirables, stealing cars (mostly Honda Elements, cause he likes the headroom and the rubber floors which are surprisingly dog friendly) and burgalizing burgalable burgs to come up with money to pay for his drinking habit. Chocolate milk is not cheap you know.

 

 

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Course it is bugging him. He has started to drink. Heavily. Hanging out with undesirables, stealing cars (mostly Honda Elements, cause he likes the headroom and the rubber floors which are surprisingly dog friendly) and burgalizing burgalable burgs to come up with money to pay for his drinking habit. Chocolate milk is not cheap you know.

 

 

Dammit Vorkosigan, That was supposed to have been a private conversation between you and I. But things have progressed from chocolate milk to a nice 50/50 mix of Tequila and Mylanta with some fresh mint from the garden. I think that may be part of the reason v2 is taking so long though.

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Hi,

 

This device emulates mouse isn't it? Or is it separate from mouse? For instance if I move the mouse does it conflict with pointctrl?

That would be great to have it emulate a vr controller as well. I have a vive, clicking on the left of the headset fires up the steamvr interface that allows me to launch desktop view for instance which can be handy to do something on the desktop without removing my headset... BUT I need to fire up my steamvr controller to be able to click on anything inside this VR interface. Not very convenient... would be amazing to be able to do that with pointctrl...

 

Thanks

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It's mouse emulation, which makes it work with the most possible hardware and doesn't even have to use it with VR then. It's like any other time you have two mouse devices installed, the one being actively used is the used input. It seamlessly transitions between moouse devices then too. I get what you are asking with SteamVR, but this way there is no Oculus vs. Steam, no extra lighthouse, etc. issues.

 

I haven't played with Vive controllers. If those commands are able to be keyboard key bound (I doubt it but haven't checked), the ABPs could be used to do those things.

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