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Hey Guys, the new firmware has a different menu system. Its re-designed to be used with the GUI/AUI. If you have the GUI up it will show and tell you what menu item you are on, and describe the procedure.

 

I am working on updating the instructions, but if you run the GUI you wont need them.

 

Don't forget to hop over to the PointCTRL discord channel to get support quicker than here.

 

Miles

 

I'll try a reset and use the gui. are there any known issues with using multiple monitor setups and nvidia surround?

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Happy new year everyone!

 

Hi Miles,

 

Is it possible that since the latest firmware update, the HMS is set more sensitive?

Since I updated it, it seems to have quite a bit more issues with infrared interference. I must say though, that I didn't re-calibrate the device yet. I'm not sure if that is recommended after flashing the firmware, but I thought I'd wait with that until I could use the new GUI.

 

Hey Sirrah,

 

You are correct, it is slightly more sensitive to it IR. It helps with cursor smoothing, without any lag. I do plan on adding an IR sensitivity slider on the GUI for those that can't occlude the natural light.

 

If your stuck now, I can make and email you a less sensitive firmware version.

 

Thanks for bringing this to my attention,

 

Miles

Now shipping up to website Pre-Order Form date 2022/03/10

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I'll try a reset and use the gui. are there any known issues with using multiple monitor setups and nvidia surround?

 

No need to factory reset if your cursor limits and targets are good. The first item is the 5 point calibration that you can now do independently of the other two.

 

I don't know of any multiple monitor issues, however you will notice when adjusting your cursor limit and targets, the cursors will move quicker when you press the FCU button.

 

I will try and get a graphic reference up today for the menu.

 

Miles

Now shipping up to website Pre-Order Form date 2022/03/10

Pre-Order  Form Submission https://pointctrl.com/preorder-form/

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Hey Sirrah,

 

You are correct, it is slightly more sensitive to it IR. It helps with cursor smoothing, without any lag. I do plan on adding an IR sensitivity slider on the GUI for those that can't occlude the natural light.

 

If your stuck now, I can make and email you a less sensitive firmware version.

 

Thanks for bringing this to my attention,

 

Miles

 

No need Miles, you've got plenty enough on your hands as it is ("on your hands", see what I did there? :D)

 

I'll manage with the current version. A sensitivity slider would be a great feature in a future version though :thumbup:

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Miles, I saw your room scan video and was curious if you've implemented modulated IR Tx/Rx to help filter out false inputs from the daylight (like TV remotes use).

 

Congrats on the cool product and nice use of 3D printing!

 

Hi kenventions,

 

First off, welcome to the forums,

Sorry I missed your suggestion, and its a good one. The IR sensor array I use does not have that capability. I have done it with software but at the expense of cursor update rate and resolution. I kind of have a reverse implementation to filter out the lighthouse IR.

 

If your in the weeds with this stuff, a standard TV remote runs at around 38khz or 38,000 flashes per second. My sensor reads at 200hz or 200 frames per second. That cuts my theoretical perfect world software implementation down 100 reads per second. Now add to that, we have an small exposure time window to deal with inside that 5ms read time. So now to ensure we get a good read (on or off) during that exposure time we have to ensure the on and off time is long enough to hit that window. Now this sets up a scenario where two frames can be read as on or off with one pulse. To compensate for that we now have to span two frames to get reliable reads. which cuts our raw usable sensor frame rate down to 50. Add to that all of the processing and cursor smoothing and we have very laggy cursor.

 

I'm sure their are many other methods, I am my no means an electronics or coding expert, and I try and focus the time I have on the showstoppers.

 

Thanks for your thoughtful suggestion, I really do appreciate it, and I liked where you going with it. Maybe in the future when these type of sensors improve.

 

Miles


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What is the current estimated lead time for new orders (as of 04-JAN-2020)?

Wayz Out

 

 

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What is the current estimated lead time for new orders (as of 04-JAN-2020)?

 

Hey Wayz,

 

Should be within 30 days.

 

Thanks for the interest.

 

Miles


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Important Update: The new menu system broke up the spinning circle thingy, into three separate steps. This was done so you don't have to go through the first two steps of defining the cursor limits, and setting cursor targets, just to do a quick re-calibration.

 

The reason they are at the end, is because they will usually only be performed once during your initial set-up of PointCTRL.

The five point calibration is first so you can go right into it easily without having to run Voice Assist or decipher the cursor graphic for the menu item.

I will be slowing down the cursor in the next firmware update.

 

For familiarization and practice with the new menu, I recommend going full screen with the graphic below. Then enter the Set-Up mode with PointCTRL and cycle through the menus while observing the cursor movement and comparing it to the below graphic.

 

Sorry for changing things on those of you that are already comfortable with the old system. I think separating the three set up items will be better for everyone.

 

Thanks,

 

Miles

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Now shipping up to website Pre-Order Form date 2022/03/10

Pre-Order  Form Submission https://pointctrl.com/preorder-form/

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Important Update: The new menu system broke up the spinning circle thingy, into three separate steps. This was done so you don't have to go through the first two steps of defining the cursor limits, and setting cursor targets, just to do a quick re-calibration.

 

The reason they are at the end, is because they will usually only be performed once during your initial set-up of PointCTRL.

The five point calibration is first so you can go right into it easily without having to run Voice Assist or decipher the cursor graphic for the menu item.

I will be slowing down the cursor in the next firmware update.

 

For familiarization and practice with the new menu, I recommend going full screen with the graphic below. Then enter the Set-Up mode with PointCTRL and cycle through the menus while observing the cursor movement and comparing it to the below graphic.

 

Sorry for changing things on those of you that are already comfortable with the old system. I think separating the three set up items will be better for everyone.

 

Thanks,

 

Miles

 

 

 

 

Thanks Miles. I'm back now! :D I'll give the FW and update/changes a whirl this weekend.

hsb

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I think your Pony Express doesn't know which way it is to Australia :)

 

(Australia Post does the same. I had a parcel sent from a city suburb 5 km away that went all over Australia before eventually finding me.)

 

Tracking History

 

January 6, 2020, 4:38 pm

Arrived at Facility

CANADA

Your item arrived at a facility in CANADA on January 6, 2020 at 4:38 pm.

January 6, 2020, 12:53 pm

Processed Through Facility

CANADA

January 6, 2020, 2:53 am

Customs Clearance

CANADA

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December 31, 2019, 4:55 pm

USPS in possession of item

WALLINGFORD, CT 06492

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Haha cheers Miles.

 

I still haven't properly sat down and set it up yet either.

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I’ve been dormant on the forums for nearly a year, but now that I’m back stateside I’ll soon be looking to fire DCS back up with an improved PC, for going VR for the first time. What you’ve done here is nothing short of amazing! I am even more stoked about getting back into the game now.

 

You will definitely be getting an order from me when I’m ready sir!

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I’ve been dormant on the forums for nearly a year, but now that I’m back stateside I’ll soon be looking to fire DCS back up with an improved PC, for going VR for the first time. What you’ve done here is nothing short of amazing! I am even more stoked about getting back into the game now.

 

You will definitely be getting an order from me when I’m ready sir!

 

 

DEROS baby! Welcome back. I think you'll like VR. There's a lot of good discussion in the VR sub-forum so post any question you might have ther.

hsb

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Here's a couple shots of Miles during our three day flying Con, Even there he was hard at work as our tech guy, keeping things flying, but getting in some flights as well.We had up to five VR flyers, on point control as well simultaneously as well.

 

Los

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Anyone know how to get my PointCTRL package out of the clutches of the Canadians? :)

It is supposed to be on its way to me in Australia, but has not moved for the past 9 days.

 

January 6, 2020, 4:38 pm

Arrived at Facility

CANADA

Your item arrived at a facility in CANADA on January 6, 2020 at 4:38 pm.

January 6, 2020, 12:53 pm

Processed Through Facility

CANADA

January 6, 2020, 2:53 am

Customs Clearance

CANADA

January 2, 2020, 12:13 pm

Processed Through Regional Facility

JAMAICA NY INTERNATIONAL DISTRIBUTION CENTER

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Maybe the address is wrong somehow? I sent something to an incorrect address once, and tried to get it recalled. No such luck with Canada Post. You may have to wait until it goes back to sender.

 

 

Not that I'm an expert on mail. However I do live in Canada.

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Yes. That would be possible.

I remember a story some years ago about a tourist thinking he was on a flight to have a holiday in Sydney, Australia and he thought it was a bit colder than expected when he arrived in Sydney, Nova Scotia!

However, I would expect to see the tracking information updated and it has now been 10 days for them to discover an incorrect address.

I'm a bit worried that some bugger has pinched it!

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Yes. That would be possible.

I remember a story some years ago about a tourist thinking he was on a flight to have a holiday in Sydney, Australia and he thought it was a bit colder than expected when he arrived in Sydney, Nova Scotia!

However, I would expect to see the tracking information updated and it has now been 10 days for them to discover an incorrect address.

I'm a bit worried that some bugger has pinched it!

 

Hey Terry,

Sorry, I am traveling, I will see what I can find out. Every order has always reached it's destination........................ eventually.

 

Miles

Now shipping up to website Pre-Order Form date 2022/03/10

Pre-Order  Form Submission https://pointctrl.com/preorder-form/

PointCTRL Support Discord https://discord.gg/jH5FktJ

PintCTRL Website https://pointctrl.com/

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