Emmy Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Can't say for sure when this started, (don't recall seeing it prior to the last couple of patch cycles) but in four-ship AI formations, each aircraft behind the leader is flying a progressively worse version of the funky chicken to stay in formation or to follow the leader. By that I mean that as you step through the formation using the F2 Key, each plane is flying in a progressively more exaggerated slip to keep their velocity vectors pointed to the inside of the turn but they are wings level instead of flying banked and carving the arc of the turn. By the time you get out to #4 in a spread formation, it's literally flying sideways. Rather than roll and pitch to maneuver, they will sometimes just pivot on their vertical or horizontal axis instead of employing the proper pitch, roll or yaw maneuvers. AI have become the DCS version of the Mustangs in "Red Tails" which kind of blows out the simulation mojo. I'm surprised that none of the regular "Movie Makers" haven't caught this already. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] http://www.476vfightergroup.com/content.php High Quality Aviation Photography For Personal Enjoyment And Editorial Use. www.crosswindimages.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FistofZen Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Super Duper AI Flying Am I special? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOViper Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 (edited) relating to unknown physics you are unfortunately not very special :noexpression: experienced such things a few days ago while flying in a SP mission with a AI wingmen on the Viggen ... didn't see such behaviour in Tornado (25 years ago), nor in any other sim ... a little shame IMHO ... Edited July 26, 2018 by TOViper Visit https://www.viggen.training ...Viggen... what more can you ask for? my computer: AMD Ryzen 5600G | NVIDIA GTX 1080 Ti OC 11GB | 32 GB 3200 MHz DDR4 DUAL | SSD 980 256 GB SYS + SSD 2TB DCS | TM Warthog Stick + Throttle + TPR | Rift CV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Exulte Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 If you're online that's called 'lag' and has nothing to do with physics. I notice they're teleporting and surging. Де вороги, знайдуться козаки їх перемогти. 5800x3d * 3090 * 64gb * Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrosko Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 I noticed last night some Ai 109s doing similar strange action not online. Win 10 64//4.5g i7 Kaby Lake//gtx Titan x pascal//16gb 3200ram//Asus Maximux Hero IX//Oculus Rift// Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmy Posted July 26, 2018 Author Share Posted July 26, 2018 FistOfZen posted these examples of what I described: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=216780 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] http://www.476vfightergroup.com/content.php High Quality Aviation Photography For Personal Enjoyment And Editorial Use. www.crosswindimages.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmy Posted July 26, 2018 Author Share Posted July 26, 2018 I also reported this... https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3573973#post3573973 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] http://www.476vfightergroup.com/content.php High Quality Aviation Photography For Personal Enjoyment And Editorial Use. www.crosswindimages.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FistofZen Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 This was singleplayer. Am I special? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOViper Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 This was singleplayer. #metoo Visit https://www.viggen.training ...Viggen... what more can you ask for? my computer: AMD Ryzen 5600G | NVIDIA GTX 1080 Ti OC 11GB | 32 GB 3200 MHz DDR4 DUAL | SSD 980 256 GB SYS + SSD 2TB DCS | TM Warthog Stick + Throttle + TPR | Rift CV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Exulte Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 Mmmm.... I haven't encountered that lately, but I only recently started playing again. Good to know, though Де вороги, знайдуться козаки їх перемогти. 5800x3d * 3090 * 64gb * Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FistofZen Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 aaaaaaaaaaaaaand this will be just left here, ignored. SMEs are fine with how the AI flies. Am I special? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Exulte Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 What, you're wanting a personal acknowledgement, especially when this appears to be in the wrong sub-forum? The other fellow posted it as well, in a more appropriate location. It's also possible it's not widely spread, and you two are experiencing an anomaly caused by additional factors you're also both a bit lacking on information as to whether it's every flight, only occasionally, etc, that would help with diagnosing a problem. Youtube videos are excellent, but posting the usual logs probably would assist also. There are dozens, if not hundreds of bugs, great and small all through the game. Don't get your panties in a wad because the devs haven't popped in on yours yet. Де вороги, знайдуться козаки їх перемогти. 5800x3d * 3090 * 64gb * Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedeyeStorm Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 The AI is terribad on all aspects in this sim. From the point of SP. Instead of more maps and modules I woild love a serious overhaul of the AI. I am mostly a SP-player so the AI is the cause for my Love-Hate relation of this game. It has been stated that the dev's are working on it but I hope the improvements come soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkateZilla Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 aaaaaaaaaaaaaand this will be just left here, ignored. SMEs are fine with how the AI flies. It's not being ignored. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bell_rj Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 It's not being ignored. Please do continue... PC specs: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkateZilla Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Please Provide the Mission Used, as well as the Track File So we can re-produce internally. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted July 27, 2018 ED Team Share Posted July 27, 2018 Please post your full specs as well, better yet a dxdiag file. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnyCook Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 i am experiencing AI planes flying almost sideways. i build a map, say Normandy. i put a group of 4 planes to take off from parking, they start up, taxi and then take off as normal. then the lead plane banks left, the others follow, but they bank and slide. its as if the bank angle is too high for the turn radius so they slide. dont know how to make a vid so cant post one. Win10 64, GeForce GTX1080 Ti, Rift touch, i5- 2.90GHz(o/c), 16gb Corsair Vengance RAM, X-56 KA-50-3, AH-64D, A10c II, AV-8B, MI-8, Spitfire, Viggen, FC3, F-14, F-15c,FA-18, S/Carrier, CA, Nevada, Normandy 44, Channel, Persian gulf, Marianas, Syria, Sth Atlantic, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted July 27, 2018 ED Team Share Posted July 27, 2018 i am experiencing AI planes flying almost sideways. i build a map, say Normandy. i put a group of 4 planes to take off from parking, they start up, taxi and then take off as normal. then the lead plane banks left, the others follow, but they bank and slide. its as if the bank angle is too high for the turn radius so they slide. dont know how to make a vid so cant post one. Saving a track file would be better anyways, as well, please supply your specs, in dxdiag form is best. We are having trouble reproducing this, so trying to figure out if there is a common link.... Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmy Posted July 28, 2018 Author Share Posted July 28, 2018 Please post your full specs as well, better yet a dxdiag file. How does one do this? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] http://www.476vfightergroup.com/content.php High Quality Aviation Photography For Personal Enjoyment And Editorial Use. www.crosswindimages.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted July 28, 2018 ED Team Share Posted July 28, 2018 Should find all you need here: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/support/faq/710/ Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmy Posted July 28, 2018 Author Share Posted July 28, 2018 Danke... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] http://www.476vfightergroup.com/content.php High Quality Aviation Photography For Personal Enjoyment And Editorial Use. www.crosswindimages.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmy Posted July 28, 2018 Author Share Posted July 28, 2018 DXDiag Attached .. No Problems Found On My EndDxDiagEmmyJuly282018.txt [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] http://www.476vfightergroup.com/content.php High Quality Aviation Photography For Personal Enjoyment And Editorial Use. www.crosswindimages.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted July 28, 2018 ED Team Share Posted July 28, 2018 Are any of your drives SSDs, and is your install on an SSD? Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmy Posted July 28, 2018 Author Share Posted July 28, 2018 Are any of your drives SSDs, and is your install on an SSD? Negative on both... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] http://www.476vfightergroup.com/content.php High Quality Aviation Photography For Personal Enjoyment And Editorial Use. www.crosswindimages.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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