Shaders mod for better VR performance (experimental)

[TheBamse]

Oh, right, gotcha. I forgot about that one, my b!

Then my answer stands for the rest of the bulleted points :)

[JSpidey]

I think he's referring to this quote in post #1:

* This optimization does not work with planes which do not use the glass shader for the canopy glass. For example the A10C and Hawk.

So then the answer is no it will not work, correct?

[vonbane]

So then the answer is no it will not work, correct?

 

No it works. That is just referring to the 1 improvement (marked with the "*") in that list of things, that this mod does, that doesn't work. The rest of the improvements work.

[JSpidey]

No it works. That is just referring to the 1 improvement (marked with the "*") in that list of things, that this mod does, that doesn't work. The rest of the improvements work.

Ohh, okay thank you.

[squid1]

Yep, will work for all aircraft, just the glass shader improvement will not be present for those modules that don't use the glass shader :) Enjoy

[Kazansky222]

been messing around with the MASKSIZE to get it dialed in for the pimax 5k+ set to normal FOV, can't seem to dial it in, anybody else want to share their settings?

[Tallguy]

I read someone stating having it set to 750f

[Kazansky222]

ok I'll give that a try, I was running 6.25 before.

[Hippo]

I just wanted to thank you again for creating this mod, and for continuing to keep it updated. I am still getting a 25% - 30% fps improvement on my system.

[Nealius]

Can anyone confirm that this mod does not work with the A-10C? Recently I've been flying the Hog a lot in VR and that's been the one thing keeping me from trying out this mod.

[uri_ba]

This mod is agnoatic to which module you fly.

[imacken]

Can anyone confirm that this mod does not work with the A-10C? Recently I've been flying the Hog a lot in VR and that's been the one thing keeping me from trying out this mod.

 

See posts 773-780 here.

[Nealius]

Ah, I see, it's not that it doesn't work with the A-10C, it's just that the A-10C doesn't benefit from that particular tweak.

[imacken]

Ah, I see, it's not that it doesn't work with the A-10C, it's just that the A-10C doesn't benefit from that particular tweak.

 

Correct.

[Nealius]

I noticed it's for an older Open Beta version though...is anyone running this on 2.5.4.30386?

[Hippo]

I noticed it's for an older Open Beta version though...is anyone running this on 2.5.4.30386?

 

Works for me. Any issues I've ever had were caused by my not following the installation instructions carefully enough. I now use a batch file for this, since I reapply every time there's an update to DCSW. This works without issue for me every time.

 

xcopy Bazar "D:\DCS World OpenBeta\Bazar"\ /E /Y

del "D:\DCS World OpenBeta\Mods\terrains\Caucasus\misc\metacache\dcs\*.*" /Q

del "D:\DCS World OpenBeta\Mods\terrains\Nevada\misc\metacache\dcs\*.*" /Q

del "D:\DCS World OpenBeta\Mods\terrains\Normandy\misc\metacache\dcs\*.*" /Q

 

del "D:\Users\<user_name>\Saved Games\DCS.openbeta\fxo\*.*" /Q

del "D:\Users\<user_name>\Saved Games\DCS.openbeta\metashaders\*.*" /Q

del "D:\Users\<user_name>\Saved Games\DCS.openbeta\metashaders2\*.*" /Q

 

D:\DCS World OpenBeta\ is my DCS installation folder. Bazar is the mod folder source. D:\Users\<user_name>\ will most likely be different for you.

 

When the shaders are deleted, it can easily take up to 5 minutes for the game to load into a mission. Even though it looks as it the game has crashed, this is normal, just wait and the mission will eventually load. This only happens once (per terrain?).

 

Files are deleted / overwritten, so I always keep a backup just in case.

Edited May 21, 2019 by Hippo

[hansangb]

Ah, I see, it's not that it doesn't work with the A-10C, it's just that the A-10C doesn't benefit from that particular tweak.

 

 

But that may change when the BS2 and A10C get it's updated textures from ED.

[Nealius]

Well, after 45 minutes of waiting for the shaders to load, I found that they do not play nicely with fog/dust. I have a mission with dust visibility set to 9000ft, which looks perfect without the shaders mod, but with the shaders mod the dust obscures everything, even the inside of the cockpit.

[imacken]

Well, after 45 minutes of waiting for the shaders to load, I found that they do not play nicely with fog/dust. I have a mission with dust visibility set to 9000ft, which looks perfect without the shaders mod, but with the shaders mod the dust obscures everything, even the inside of the cockpit.

 

Yes, the fact is that this mod is a compromise. I personally don't use it as there are too many visual artefacts and degradations for very little benefit to me. Still, it's good that we have it, as a lot of other people get a benefit from it.

[Hippo]

after 45 minutes of waiting (..)dust obscures everything

 

Dust (yikes!) - I had NEVER tried this setting before, so wasn't aware of this problem. I do get some glitches, but am prepared to live with them for the 25%+ fps improvement I get.

 

45 minutes ?! I've never been anywhere close to that. In your shoes, I'd be concerned that something is not correctly configured on my system...

 

imacken's post is spot on. My top two priorities for VR are MSAAx4 AND >= 90fps. The mod enables this for me (simple missions with most eye-candy off). I suspect that it is the AA part of the mod that is doing most of the heavy lifting for me, it's unfortunate that you can't just pick and choose the bits you want (or can you?).

[Nealius]

I can live without MSAA, but it's the shadows and weather (like fog, dust) that I can't live without. Apparently, by some twisted logic, DCS shadows are CPU bound and not GPU bound, so unless I overclock or upgrade to an i7 I'm pretty much stuck.

[Bullant]

2.5.5 does not like this mod unfortunately :(

[kzial]

2.5.5 does not like this mod unfortunately :(

Just don't copy the model folder.

[JoeyJoJoJunior]

Just don't copy the model folder.

 

 

Didn't work for me.

 

I was able to get it going by adding the following lines at the top of two files:

 

.../Bazar/shaders/model/functions/glass.hlsl

#include "functions/aorms.hlsl"

 

.../Bazar/shaders/model/functions/ambient_occlusion.hlsl

#include "functions/structs.hlsl"

 

edit: Spoke to soon. Worked for the Huey, but didn't work for some other modules like the MiG-15.

Edited June 8, 2019 by JoeyJoJoJunior

[modda]

I got it working by doing the following two steps after installing the VR mod - I've only tested for the F-14 and the F-18

 

Revert file to original

Bazar\shaders\model\functions\glass.hlsl

 

Edit includes at the top

Bazar\shaders\model\mirror_material.fx

#include "common/textures.hlsl"
#include "common/uniforms.hlsl"
#include "functions/vertex_shader.hlsl"
#include "functions/matParams.hlsl"
#include "functions/impostor.hlsl"
#include "common/shader_macroses.hlsl"
#include "common/states.hlsl"
#include "common/states11.hlsl"
#include "functions/structs.hlsl"
#include "functions/vt_utils.hlsl"

 

That being said, the 2.5.5 update actually increased the performance on my system, the stuttering I usually experience was totally gone. Looking forward to the huge VR optimization in the next OB :thumbup:

 

Modda