TheBamse Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Oh, right, gotcha. I forgot about that one, my b! Then my answer stands for the rest of the bulleted points :) Link to post Share on other sites
JSpidey Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 I think he's referring to this quote in post #1: * This optimization does not work with planes which do not use the glass shader for the canopy glass. For example the A10C and Hawk. So then the answer is no it will not work, correct? Link to post Share on other sites
vonbane Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 So then the answer is no it will not work, correct? No it works. That is just referring to the 1 improvement (marked with the "*") in that list of things, that this mod does, that doesn't work. The rest of the improvements work. Link to post Share on other sites
JSpidey Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 No it works. That is just referring to the 1 improvement (marked with the "*") in that list of things, that this mod does, that doesn't work. The rest of the improvements work. Ohh, okay thank you. Link to post Share on other sites
squid1 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Yep, will work for all aircraft, just the glass shader improvement will not be present for those modules that don't use the glass shader :) Enjoy [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Saitek x45 Hotas Canadian! Link to post Share on other sites
Kazansky222 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 been messing around with the MASKSIZE to get it dialed in for the pimax 5k+ set to normal FOV, can't seem to dial it in, anybody else want to share their settings? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 64th "Scorpions" Aggressor Squadron Discord: 64th Aggressor Squadron TS: 195.201.110.22 Link to post Share on other sites
Tallguy Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 I read someone stating having it set to 750f F-15C Eagle | A-10A Warthog | A-10C Warthog | AV-8B Night Attack V/STOL | F-14 Tomcat | Persian Gulf My hardware : Gigabyte Aorus I Z390 Pro Wifi | Intel i7-9700K@5,1Ghz | eVGA RTX2080Ti SC | Corsair 32GB RAM DDR4@3200Mhz | NZXT Kraken X52 | NZXT H200 | LG 34UB88-B | 2x Samsung Evo 970 500GB Nvme | TM Warthog | CH Pro pedals | Pimax 5K+ Link to post Share on other sites
Kazansky222 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 ok I'll give that a try, I was running 6.25 before. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 64th "Scorpions" Aggressor Squadron Discord: 64th Aggressor Squadron TS: 195.201.110.22 Link to post Share on other sites
Hippo Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 I just wanted to thank you again for creating this mod, and for continuing to keep it updated. I am still getting a 25% - 30% fps improvement on my system. System spec: Intel i7 8700K (3.7 / 4.7 GHz), Asus Prime Z370-A, Zotac GTX 1080 Ti 11GB GDDR5x Blower (1480 / 1582 MHz), 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX Black (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600 3200 MHz, Samsung 960 EVO 250 GB NVME M.2 SSD (system drive), Samsung 970 EVO 1 TB NVME M.2 SSD (games drive), AOC U3477PQU Monitor, Oculus Rift S, Saitek X52 Pro Link to post Share on other sites
Nealius Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Can anyone confirm that this mod does not work with the A-10C? Recently I've been flying the Hog a lot in VR and that's been the one thing keeping me from trying out this mod. YouTube Channel: "Clutch" Z390 Aorus Elite | i5-9600k @4.7Ghz | RTX2070 | 32GB DDR4 | Windows 10 | Odyssey Plus | Warthog HOTAS | 20cm Extension Link to post Share on other sites
uri_ba Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 This mod is agnoatic to which module you fly. My pit building blog Few DIY projects on Github: DIY Cougar throttle Standalone USB controller | DIY FCC3 Standalone USB Controller Link to post Share on other sites
imacken Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Can anyone confirm that this mod does not work with the A-10C? Recently I've been flying the Hog a lot in VR and that's been the one thing keeping me from trying out this mod. See posts 773-780 here. Intel i9 10900K 5.1GHz · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 3090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z590-F Wi-Fi · Acer 4K 32" XB321HK · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 10 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · TrackIR5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil WarBRD Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Grip · HP Reverb G2 Link to post Share on other sites
Nealius Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Ah, I see, it's not that it doesn't work with the A-10C, it's just that the A-10C doesn't benefit from that particular tweak. YouTube Channel: "Clutch" Z390 Aorus Elite | i5-9600k @4.7Ghz | RTX2070 | 32GB DDR4 | Windows 10 | Odyssey Plus | Warthog HOTAS | 20cm Extension Link to post Share on other sites
imacken Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Ah, I see, it's not that it doesn't work with the A-10C, it's just that the A-10C doesn't benefit from that particular tweak. Correct. Intel i9 10900K 5.1GHz · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 3090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z590-F Wi-Fi · Acer 4K 32" XB321HK · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 10 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · TrackIR5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil WarBRD Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Grip · HP Reverb G2 Link to post Share on other sites
Nealius Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 I noticed it's for an older Open Beta version though...is anyone running this on 2.5.4.30386? YouTube Channel: "Clutch" Z390 Aorus Elite | i5-9600k @4.7Ghz | RTX2070 | 32GB DDR4 | Windows 10 | Odyssey Plus | Warthog HOTAS | 20cm Extension Link to post Share on other sites
Hippo Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 (edited) I noticed it's for an older Open Beta version though...is anyone running this on 2.5.4.30386? Works for me. Any issues I've ever had were caused by my not following the installation instructions carefully enough. I now use a batch file for this, since I reapply every time there's an update to DCSW. This works without issue for me every time. xcopy Bazar "D:\DCS World OpenBeta\Bazar"\ /E /Y del "D:\DCS World OpenBeta\Mods\terrains\Caucasus\misc\metacache\dcs\*.*" /Q del "D:\DCS World OpenBeta\Mods\terrains\Nevada\misc\metacache\dcs\*.*" /Q del "D:\DCS World OpenBeta\Mods\terrains\Normandy\misc\metacache\dcs\*.*" /Q del "D:\Users\<user_name>\Saved Games\DCS.openbeta\fxo\*.*" /Q del "D:\Users\<user_name>\Saved Games\DCS.openbeta\metashaders\*.*" /Q del "D:\Users\<user_name>\Saved Games\DCS.openbeta\metashaders2\*.*" /Q D:\DCS World OpenBeta\ is my DCS installation folder. Bazar is the mod folder source. D:\Users\<user_name>\ will most likely be different for you. When the shaders are deleted, it can easily take up to 5 minutes for the game to load into a mission. Even though it looks as it the game has crashed, this is normal, just wait and the mission will eventually load. This only happens once (per terrain?). Files are deleted / overwritten, so I always keep a backup just in case. Edited May 21, 2019 by Hippo System spec: Intel i7 8700K (3.7 / 4.7 GHz), Asus Prime Z370-A, Zotac GTX 1080 Ti 11GB GDDR5x Blower (1480 / 1582 MHz), 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX Black (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600 3200 MHz, Samsung 960 EVO 250 GB NVME M.2 SSD (system drive), Samsung 970 EVO 1 TB NVME M.2 SSD (games drive), AOC U3477PQU Monitor, Oculus Rift S, Saitek X52 Pro Link to post Share on other sites
hansangb Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Ah, I see, it's not that it doesn't work with the A-10C, it's just that the A-10C doesn't benefit from that particular tweak. But that may change when the BS2 and A10C get it's updated textures from ED. hsb HW Spec in Spoiler --- i7-10700K Direct-To-Die/OC'ed to 5.1GHz, MSI Z490 MB, 32GB DDR4 3200MHz, EVGA 2080 Ti FTW3, NVMe+SSD, Win 10 x64 Pro, MFG, Warthog, TM MFDs, Komodo Huey set, Rverbe G1 Link to post Share on other sites
Nealius Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Well, after 45 minutes of waiting for the shaders to load, I found that they do not play nicely with fog/dust. I have a mission with dust visibility set to 9000ft, which looks perfect without the shaders mod, but with the shaders mod the dust obscures everything, even the inside of the cockpit. YouTube Channel: "Clutch" Z390 Aorus Elite | i5-9600k @4.7Ghz | RTX2070 | 32GB DDR4 | Windows 10 | Odyssey Plus | Warthog HOTAS | 20cm Extension Link to post Share on other sites
imacken Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Well, after 45 minutes of waiting for the shaders to load, I found that they do not play nicely with fog/dust. I have a mission with dust visibility set to 9000ft, which looks perfect without the shaders mod, but with the shaders mod the dust obscures everything, even the inside of the cockpit. Yes, the fact is that this mod is a compromise. I personally don't use it as there are too many visual artefacts and degradations for very little benefit to me. Still, it's good that we have it, as a lot of other people get a benefit from it. Intel i9 10900K 5.1GHz · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 3090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z590-F Wi-Fi · Acer 4K 32" XB321HK · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 10 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · TrackIR5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil WarBRD Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Grip · HP Reverb G2 Link to post Share on other sites
Hippo Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 after 45 minutes of waiting (..)dust obscures everything Dust (yikes!) - I had NEVER tried this setting before, so wasn't aware of this problem. I do get some glitches, but am prepared to live with them for the 25%+ fps improvement I get. 45 minutes ?! I've never been anywhere close to that. In your shoes, I'd be concerned that something is not correctly configured on my system... imacken's post is spot on. My top two priorities for VR are MSAAx4 AND >= 90fps. The mod enables this for me (simple missions with most eye-candy off). I suspect that it is the AA part of the mod that is doing most of the heavy lifting for me, it's unfortunate that you can't just pick and choose the bits you want (or can you?). System spec: Intel i7 8700K (3.7 / 4.7 GHz), Asus Prime Z370-A, Zotac GTX 1080 Ti 11GB GDDR5x Blower (1480 / 1582 MHz), 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX Black (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600 3200 MHz, Samsung 960 EVO 250 GB NVME M.2 SSD (system drive), Samsung 970 EVO 1 TB NVME M.2 SSD (games drive), AOC U3477PQU Monitor, Oculus Rift S, Saitek X52 Pro Link to post Share on other sites
Nealius Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 I can live without MSAA, but it's the shadows and weather (like fog, dust) that I can't live without. Apparently, by some twisted logic, DCS shadows are CPU bound and not GPU bound, so unless I overclock or upgrade to an i7 I'm pretty much stuck. YouTube Channel: "Clutch" Z390 Aorus Elite | i5-9600k @4.7Ghz | RTX2070 | 32GB DDR4 | Windows 10 | Odyssey Plus | Warthog HOTAS | 20cm Extension Link to post Share on other sites
Bullant Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 2.5.5 does not like this mod unfortunately :( Intel i7 6700K @ 4 GHz / ASUS Z170 Pro Gaming / 32 Gb G.Skill DDR4 / Gigabyte RTX2080 OC Gaming / 512 Gb Samsung 850 EVO System SSD / 512 Gb Samsung 850 EVO DCS SSD / Win 10 x64 Pro / WINWING F/A-18 HOTAS A-10C, AV-8B, F-5E, F-86F, FC3, FW190D-9, Hawk, Ka50 2, P-51D, Spitfire, UH-1H, F/A-18C, F-14, F-16, Supercarrier, Christen Eagle 2 Nevada, Normandy, Persian Gulf, The Channel Link to post Share on other sites
kzial Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 2.5.5 does not like this mod unfortunately :(Just don't copy the model folder. Link to post Share on other sites
JoeyJoJoJunior Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 (edited) Just don't copy the model folder. Didn't work for me. I was able to get it going by adding the following lines at the top of two files: .../Bazar/shaders/model/functions/glass.hlsl #include "functions/aorms.hlsl" .../Bazar/shaders/model/functions/ambient_occlusion.hlsl #include "functions/structs.hlsl" edit: Spoke to soon. Worked for the Huey, but didn't work for some other modules like the MiG-15. Edited June 8, 2019 by JoeyJoJoJunior i7 6700k @ 4.6, Gigabyte Z170X-UD3, 32GB DDR4 2666, GTX 1070, Rift S | MS Sidewinder FFB2 w/ TM F-22 Pro Grip, TM TWCS Throttle, VKB T-Rudder Mk. IV Link to post Share on other sites
modda Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 I got it working by doing the following two steps after installing the VR mod - I've only tested for the F-14 and the F-18 Revert file to original Bazar\shaders\model\functions\glass.hlsl Edit includes at the top Bazar\shaders\model\mirror_material.fx #include "common/textures.hlsl" #include "common/uniforms.hlsl" #include "functions/vertex_shader.hlsl" #include "functions/matParams.hlsl" #include "functions/impostor.hlsl" #include "common/shader_macroses.hlsl" #include "common/states.hlsl" #include "common/states11.hlsl" #include "functions/structs.hlsl" #include "functions/vt_utils.hlsl" That being said, the 2.5.5 update actually increased the performance on my system, the stuttering I usually experience was totally gone. Looking forward to the huge VR optimization in the next OB :thumbup: Modda i9-9900KS @5.2GHz | Aorus Z390 Master | MSI RTX 3090 Gaming X Trio | 32GB DDR4 3200MHz | HP Reverb G2 | TM Warthog | Logitech G Pro Link to post Share on other sites
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