[ALL MODULES][SP/CO-OP] Liberation Dynamic Campaign

[Jetguy06]

Hey guys. How do I update Liberation? The version I have installed is from back when the Syria map was just released, and I want to install the newest version. How do I do this? Thanks!!

[claw]

On 9/27/2021 at 6:03 AM, Jetguy06 said:

Hey guys. How do I update Liberation? The version I have installed is from back when the Syria map was just released, and I want to install the newest version. How do I do this? Thanks!!

This is the latest version: https://github.com/dcs-liberation/dcs_liberation/releases/tag/4.1.1

[Jetguy06]

6 hours ago, claw said:

This is the latest version: https://github.com/dcs-liberation/dcs_liberation/releases/tag/4.1.1

Thanks, Claw. Do I need to uninstall the current version of Liberation before installing the new one? If I do, how do I cleanly uninstall it? Thanks!!

[claw]

17 hours ago, Jetguy06 said:

Thanks, Claw. Do I need to uninstall the current version of Liberation before installing the new one? If I do, how do I cleanly uninstall it? Thanks!!

No need to uninstall. They are seperate installs. Campaigns made in an older version are sometimes not compatible with a new version, so beware of that. 

[MeatBall]

hello everyone,
I don't really understand how the campaign engine works.
What happens to the CPU-driven missions if I leave the simulator?
I assume that there are more operations running at the same time, so if the operation led by me human ends, what happens to the others led by the cpu?

[LordOrion]

4 hours ago, MeatBall said:

hello everyone,
I don't really understand how the campaign engine works.
What happens to the CPU-driven missions if I leave the simulator?
I assume that there are more operations running at the same time, so if the operation led by me human ends, what happens to the others led by the cpu?

 

Interesting question, I'm curious too...

[Captain Orso]

15 hours ago, MeatBall said:

hello everyone,
I don't really understand how the campaign engine works.
What happens to the CPU-driven missions if I leave the simulator?
I assume that there are more operations running at the same time, so if the operation led by me human ends, what happens to the others led by the cpu?

 

I depends on what you mean by "leave the simulator".

 

If you have flown the mission(s) you wanted to and then quit DCS, everything in the Liberation mission remains as it is. There is no extrapolation of what might happen, if DCS ran another half hour, or an hour, or whatever.

 

If you let DCS continue to run, even if you don't fly any further missions, the AI missions Liberation built (-- all those other flights going on around you, and those scheduled to start later -- they will continue to be flown until they have been completed.

 

I don't know what happens after the last AI flight has RTBed; I've never tried that. Maybe Liberation ends the mission, maybe it waits for you to do that; idk.

[dmatsch]

4 hours ago, Captain Orso said:

There is no extrapolation of what might happen, if DCS ran another half hour, or an hour, or whatever.

 

So, if I'm understanding this correctly...

 

You have to start the mission and wait in the cockpit for XX time until your takeoff time.  Then you get to WP1 and wait until your push time.  Then you have to RTB and WAIT until the mission completes?

 

Jeez.  I wish I had more than a couple of hours a sitting to actually *properly* fly this sim!

[Captain Orso]

IRRC you can fly the missions you set up for yourself anytime you wish, or you can edit the .miz mission to have them start when you want. It's up to you.

 

If you want the AI flights to occur and terminate normally, you will have to let the mission run by itself until complete. If you are playing SP you can however accelerate the time to 20x so in won't take hours.

[metzger]

Hello,

 

Is it possible to generate FARPs dynamically based on the Frontline, so you can spawn helicopters closer to FLOT ?

[Steel Jaw]

I keep getting your flight is delayed please wait, but it never puts me in my jet, how can I fix this please?

Edited October 11, 2021 by Mower

[dmatsch]

12 hours ago, Mower said:

I keep getting your flight is delayed please wait, but it never puts me in my jet, how can I fix this please?

 

 

this is the most annoying part of Liberation.  All flights have a specific take off time and TOT.  You have to click the ASAP checkbox on your flight planner in Liberation before starting the mission.  Even then it won't change your takeoff or TOT times, it'll just allow you in the cockpit for startup checklists.  You can still take off, but if there's any kind of coordinated mission with escorts, sead, etc -- you'll still have to fly around waiting for them to hit their time triggers else you'll be flying alone.

 

 

[Steel Jaw]

oh thats a big problem.

[MAXsenna]

oh thats a big problem.

You can edit everything to your needs though.
Have a look at Jabber's take on it.
I tend to treat it like a turned based strategy game where I get to play a piece in real time.

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[Mr_Blastman]

4 hours ago, Mower said:

oh thats a big problem.

This isn't a BMS level campaign system... yet.  I have found that if I fragged a AWACS flight to take off prior to my own package on a carrier none of the flights may ever take off, so the solution is to have the annoying offenders start airborne--which makes them non-targetable but at least planes leave the deck or runway.

 

My biggest issue with Liberation is that unlike BMS where we have the background sim running constantly and when we enter the pit there will be plenty of planes mid-flight at various stages of their missions, in Liberation everything starts once you hit start in order that they're fragged to take off, and there is no way to instantly skip ahead to your own take off time.  In order to get that full "BMS live environment" feeling, one has to sit around with time acceleration on for a spell and frag their flight to occur minutes or an hour into the future.

Still, regardless of this, the Liberation missions I have run have been among the closest to BMS/Falcon even when starting at 0:00:00 of anything I've ever experienced with DCS.  The canned missions don't give me heebie jeebies and sweat like these can.

 

I think the issue is Liberation isn't built into DCS, nor is there a true background sim.  ED says they're working on something, let's hope this is so...  I long for that real time dynamic environment we've had for decades.  Closest alternative is some of the online dynamic environment PvP servers with ground objectives.

[Mr_sukebe]

Just tried firing up Liberation again, and I'm still getting: "unable to write dcs liberation state to [nil]".

Having done some digging, I've tried the following:

 - Ensuring that the default folder locations, as defined in preferences are correct

 - Set the Liberation.exe to be run as an Admin

 - Ensured that I've started DCS before starting Liberation

 - Ensured that the MissionScripting.Lua was copied to the DCS Script Folder

I don't use Viacom and wasn't running SRS or Discord during the test.

Any thoughts?

[dark_wood]

15 hours ago, Mr_sukebe said:

Just tried firing up Liberation again, and I'm still getting: "unable to write dcs liberation state to [nil]".

Having done some digging, I've tried the following:

 - Ensuring that the default folder locations, as defined in preferences are correct

 - Set the Liberation.exe to be run as an Admin

 - Ensured that I've started DCS before starting Liberation

 - Ensured that the MissionScripting.Lua was copied to the DCS Script Folder

I don't use Viacom and wasn't running SRS or Discord during the test.

Any thoughts?

Delete liberation_nextturn.miz from SavedGames Mission folder (Saved  Games\DCS.openbeta\Missions)

[Mr_sukebe]

1 hour ago, dark_wood said:

Delete liberation_nextturn.miz from SavedGames Mission folder (Saved  Games\DCS.openbeta\Missions)

 

??

That confuses me.  Isn't that the mission file that I'm meant to run using my dedicated server?

[VeeSPIKE]

17 hours ago, Mr_sukebe said:

Just tried firing up Liberation again, and I'm still getting: "unable to write dcs liberation state to [nil]".

Having done some digging, I've tried the following:

 - Ensuring that the default folder locations, as defined in preferences are correct

 - Set the Liberation.exe to be run as an Admin

 - Ensured that I've started DCS before starting Liberation

 - Ensured that the MissionScripting.Lua was copied to the DCS Script Folder

I don't use Viacom and wasn't running SRS or Discord during the test.

Any thoughts?

You are running Liberation as Admin. Are you also running DCS as Admin? They must match, or you end up with privilege conflicts.

[dark_wood]

14 hours ago, Mr_sukebe said:

 

??

That confuses me.  Isn't that the mission file that I'm meant to run using my dedicated server?

Yes, but if haven't played in a long time, and updated to the last version, that old mission won't be compatible with the new stuff.

Just rename it, if you don't want to lose it, and start a new fresh campaign, which will generate a new miz file

[Reaper51368]

Does anyone know when a new version will be available with SA-5 support?  It's been 2 and a half months since the last update.  Hopefully it's still being worked on.

[LooseSeal]

On 10/27/2021 at 7:59 PM, Reaper51368 said:

Does anyone know when a new version will be available with SA-5 support?  It's been 2 and a half months since the last update.  Hopefully it's still being worked on.

It certainly seems to be still worked on. The 5.0.0 version is updated all the time. The only frustrating thing is every time I look at it some new task has been added to the 'to do' section. At this rate 5.0 will merge into 6.0!  

I think we were spoiled with rapid updates and development over the last year and a half probably due to a lot of the guys being stuck at home or off work due to the pandemic. Sadly, life might have got back in the way again!

[JeffreyC]

4.1.1 is really good. 5.0 preview is . Don't even plan on using that when it comes out, sticking with 4.1.1. Hoping 6.0 might be better or ED will move forward with the real dynamic campaign.

 

[Aries144]

Is there a way to add modded aircraft to Liberation campaigns, or is that something that has to be coded into Liberation by the developers? I'm looking to try it out with the F-104G mod.

[MrReynolds]

6 hours ago, Aries144 said:

Is there a way to add modded aircraft to Liberation campaigns, or is that something that has to be coded into Liberation by the developers? I'm looking to try it out with the F-104G mod.

I personally TOTALLY adapt each mission - so yes - if you can do it in the mission editor you can tweak to your heart's content.

Within the app - I don't think so.