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I 've already received the Thrusmaster rudder pedal while I had SlawDivse RX VIPER and MFG

I waneted to see what it was after Jabbers review, in one phrase it was not a special snow flack in addition the left pedal's toe brack is not working well ,so I contacted Thrusmaster to eather change or repair it .

thats being said, the sencetive parts are not so robust

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Ops. :P

 

 

Clearly snapped by force or didn't set them up correctly.

 

Between us using them for months now with no issues and the thrashing use of them by big and small people at Oshkosh with no issues, there's no way that part snapped without sheer weight on the pedal.

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Clearly snapped by force or didn't set them up correctly.

 

Between us using them for months now with no issues and the thrashing use of them by big and small people at Oshkosh with no issues, there's no way that part snapped without sheer weight on the pedal.

 

Thanks for your expert and totally impartial view on the matter :music_whistling:

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There are to many factors at play. I'm wrapping up my review on them and should have it ready to go hopefully sometime over the long weekend. But I will say I feel like this failure was either an unfortunate defect, someone not being truthful and actually hammering on them, or improper setup (something I point out in my review... and quite possibly the issue here) ... stay tunes :)

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Basically just make sure there is no tension on the ball join in the retracted and extended position of the toe brake. In some configurations when adjusting the 2 adjustment points of the toe brake angle you can get the ball joint to bind when either retracted or fully extended, the excess strain could cause an issue on both the join and adjustment point.

 

2 adjustment positions pointed out in this image 19Geago.png

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For some reason, it looks awesome from side view.

 

 

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I had the original Thrustmaster pedal which are ok. These are definitely better as you would expect, given that they are roughly 4 times the price of the original ones. The action is nice and smooth with both rudder and toe brakes. They feel pretty solid however you may want to fix them to something as even though they are over 7kg in weight they do slide on carpet.

 

I’ve only used them with the f-18 and they make taxiing etc easier. I used to have a hard time parking in the f-18, now I find it easy with these. They are also way more comfortable to use than my originals ones as your feet are more upright and your pushing not sliding the pedals.

 

So far pretty happy with them.

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t80hr8ele1j11.jpg

 

(I also posted this in the reddit thread regarding the picture of the failed ball joint)

 

In the picture you can see that the female thread has been completely been stripped out - the silver post has pulled/sheared the outer thread, you can see the remains of the other grey metal thread below the nut.

 

The ball joint itself has a plastic snap-in insert. The ball joint post is not bent, and the insert looks intact. If you try and transfer too much force through the actual ball joint it will pop out of the socket.

 

Someone over-tightened the nut. Thats the only way your going to pull (not bend) a post out like that.


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t80hr8ele1j11.jpg

 

(I also posted this in the reddit thread regarding the picture of the failed ball joint)

 

In the picture you can see that the female thread has been completely been stripped out - the silver post has pulled/sheared the outer thread, you can see the remains of the other grey metal thread below the nut.

 

The ball joint itself has a plastic snap-in insert. The ball joint post is not bent, and the insert looks intact. If you try and transfer too much force through the actual ball joint it will pop out of the socket.

 

Someone over-tightened the nut. Thats the only way your going to pull (not bend) a post out like that.

 

To give the guy the benefit of doubt it could have been a bad casting, but I’ve been using these every day for a month, and at times with some force and everything holds up fine, no signs of wear, stress, etc

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That looks like over tightened nut. Did it break while in use or assembly? I wouldn't think you would need to torq it down especially if the there were a lock washer there, but perhaps a lock washer would tear up the aluminum.

 

 

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Can the centering spring be removed on these pedals? I would primarily be using them for helicopters and don't want any centering tension but would want to use them for fixed wing from time to time by reinserting the springs when needed.

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Can the centering spring be removed on these pedals? I would primarily be using them for helicopters and don't want any centering tension but would want to use them for fixed wing from time to time by reinserting the springs when needed.

 

Yes, they can, explained in my review.

 

 

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Hi all,

Now three years later - does anybody know if this breakage was a really rare incident or it is a common problem for TPR owners?

 

About to pull the trigger on this pedals but unsure if there is a real issue or not as when I have searched for this issue in the recent days I haven't come across anybody else reporting this problem 

 

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22 minutes ago, inexus said:

Hi all,

Now three years later - does anybody know if this breakage was a really rare incident or it is a common problem for TPR owners?

 

About to pull the trigger on this pedals but unsure if there is a real issue or not as when I have searched for this issue in the recent days I haven't come across anybody else reporting this problem 

 

Cheers

 

I've had mine for more than two years, put 2000+ hours in DCS VR on them, and haven't had a single problem.

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Had mine for about 1 year 5 months still ok.


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Just got mine today.  First impressions for switching from Crosswinds which I have had for six years:

 

1: Very precise, have done limited testing but just taxiing feels fantastic.  I like the out of the box tension adjustments with no changes.  Just taking off I feel like I have a precision I never had before even with the crosswinds to keep the nose right on the center of the runway.

2: I was worried about the center bump which was mentioned.  It's perfect though, So subtle I can barely even feel it in use, but very solid centering when you need it and lift your feet up.

3: build quality seems solid, all the moving parts look like they use some teflon bushing similar to the material in an igus linear bearing.  Very smooth, but as for wear and tear who knows how it will hold up.

4: I like it being completely sealed, it's going to be a treat to keep clean compared to the crosswinds or any of the other yoke style pedals.

5: The pendular motion is nice, but it does have the downside of now moving up and down.  So at full deflection my heel wants to come off the floor on the close pedal.  This can be mitigated with seating position adjustment.

6: I don't care for the deep concave design of the toe pedals so much.  I had printed replica F-18 pedals for the crosswind which I like the shape of better.

7: The main pendulum itself is not super tight tolerance, if you grab the arms and give them a wiggle you can see the arms move a bit on the shaft.  Having not taken it apart though to see if it runs, I don't know if this is any issue.  If the shaft is on bearings inside the housing as I would assume and arms just clamp on then it doesn't much matter.

 

Overall very satisfied with the upgrade, they feel great and in my opinion don't need a damper at all unless maybe you are flying helos and want to go full damper no springs.  They seem like they will be amazing for helos.

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2 hours ago, Goblin said:


Here’s a thread about how I solved the tightness and increased the spring force of the brakes.

 

 

It's not really the toe breaks I meant, but yeah they are kind of a little clacky as well.

 

The main pendulum arms and how they attach to the top shaft is more what I was referring to.  They aren't really a tight tolerance fit on the shaft and you can sway the whole arm back and forth with what comes out to maybe half a millimeter to a millimeter at the bottom of the arm where the pedal attaches.

 

I have not tried removing the entire arm from the main shaft to see how it attaches, but I would have to guess it is just keyed to the shaft based on the way it slops around on it.  It doesn't really hamper the performance of the pedal in any way, and since they are almost zero pressure on the arm with the heel resting on the floor design it shouldn't be an issue.  It could probably be shimmed up to be more snug, but honestly I'm happy with them and don't feel the need to tinker with them.  I like the metal tie rods, in the future maybe I might consider that as a replacement for the RC car traxis style arms it has out of the box.

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