zildac Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Many have been moaning about stutter due to updates not just DCS unless you been living under a rock it has been talked about all over since April That being said I have had no problems but many here seem to have bearing in mind I only fly my own created missions in the mission editor.That particular KB has a fixed "fix" 1 12900KF | Maximus Hero Z690 | ASUS 4090 TUF OC | 64GB DDR5 5200 | DCS on 2TB NVMe | WarBRD+Warthog Stick | CM3 | TM TPR's | Varjo Aero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freehand Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, zildac said: 4 hours ago, freehand said: Many have been moaning about stutter due to updates not just DCS unless you been living under a rock it has been talked about all over since April That being said I have had no problems but many here seem to have bearing in mind I only fly my own created missions in the mission editor. That particular KB has a fixed "fix" Yes I am aware of this but still think it is useful for others to know which build people are on when giving performance tips e.t.c. If your happy and others are not knowing then fair play, but some one just saying "I am running with the latest updates" is as much use as a chocolate teapot. I run a tight ship and hardly ever have problems and always find a work around unless ED have problems , I was just thinking of others that's all. Edited May 9, 2021 by freehand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icemaker Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 Same issue here i can't play DCS! when the mission is about to star steam VR crashes, but DCS stills running and the head movement is still detected! I reinstalled Steam VR, WMR for steam VR and WMR windows driver. I have also tested beta versions with no success! I have also done a repair of DCS. What else i can do? Windows is on latest version and up to date. 20H2 Build 19042.964 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 try rolling back WMR for SteamVR to the non-beta path SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icemaker Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 i was in stable, and tested beta, then rolled back to stable with same issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tshark Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 (edited) Try starting WMR first, then close SteamVR leaving WMR running, then start DCS. For me DCS will start up SteamVR then perform as normal. Hope this helps Edited May 9, 2021 by Tshark i9 10900KF 3.70GHz (5.30GHz Turbo), MSI RTX 4090 OC 24GB, ASUS Z590-E GAMING Motherboard, CORSAIR Vengeance 64GB DDR4 3600MHz, 2TB Intel 660P M.2 NVMe SSD, Virpil Alpha Joystick, T-50CM3 Throttle, MFG Xwind rudder pedals, Pimax Crystal VR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoovie_groove Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 I was having this problem as well.. To fix it all that was needed was just to click the DCS open Beta (standalone) shortcut to launch sim and problem went away. It opens SVR as well as WMR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sr. Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 Reddit post from MSFT VR team: Quote Thank you everyone that's responded with feedback about the issues you're having with this beta. We're following up on the crashes and issues with certain game titles. If you're among the folks having issues with this beta, I'd recommend switching back to the default build for now while we work out the issues. Otherwise keep an eye out for more updates, we'll push new beta releases as we resolve the issues that are in 1.3.6. 1 Ryzen 7 5800X3D | 64GB DDR4 3600| MSI RTX 4080 16GB Ventus 3X OC | Samsung 970 Evo 2TB NVME | HP Reverb G2 | DIY Head Tracker Cap | Logitech X-56 throttle | VKB NXT Premium | Win 11 "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." --Arthur C Clark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburne Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Sr. said: Reddit post from MSFT VR team: Great hope they get it resolved soon. In the meantime at least I can run DCS by opting out of the Beta of WMR for Steam VR. Edited May 11, 2021 by dburne Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burt Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Whew ! good to know. Thanks ! ALIENWARE R11 - I9 10900KF @ 5.1 GHz - M.2 NVMe 2TB - RTX3090 - XFURY 64GB -3400 MHz RAM Monitor AW3420DW @ 120Hz - Virpil CM3 Throttle - TM TPR Rudder pedals - Virpil CM2 w/TM Hornet Stick Center - Monstertech Deck Mounts RealSimulator FSSB-R3 Lightning Base w/ F16SRGRH SideStick - VR user / Varjo Aero - Big Thx to mbucchia Start Date April 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notso Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 On 5/8/2021 at 11:50 AM, speed-of-heat said: so i finally; had a steam VR crash in a campaign mission a couple of times, i reverted to the the release tree ... and all seems to be fine Sorry for the stupid question from a novice..... what do you mean by "reverted to the the release tree"? System HW: i9-9900K @5ghz, MSI 11GB RTX-2080-Ti Trio, G-Skill 32GB RAM, Reverb HMD, Steam VR, TM Warthog Hotas Stick & Throttle, TM F/A-18 Stick grip add-on, TM TFRP pedals. SW: 2.5.6 OB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sr. Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 41 minutes ago, Notso said: Sorry for the stupid question from a novice..... what do you mean by "reverted to the the release tree"? I think he means opting out of the beta. 1 Ryzen 7 5800X3D | 64GB DDR4 3600| MSI RTX 4080 16GB Ventus 3X OC | Samsung 970 Evo 2TB NVME | HP Reverb G2 | DIY Head Tracker Cap | Logitech X-56 throttle | VKB NXT Premium | Win 11 "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." --Arthur C Clark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notso Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 3 hours ago, Sr. said: I think he means opting out of the beta. Ah OK, thanks. So we are talking only the beta for WMR for Steam, correct? Should I turn beta back ON for Steam VR? System HW: i9-9900K @5ghz, MSI 11GB RTX-2080-Ti Trio, G-Skill 32GB RAM, Reverb HMD, Steam VR, TM Warthog Hotas Stick & Throttle, TM F/A-18 Stick grip add-on, TM TFRP pedals. SW: 2.5.6 OB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sr. Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 10 minutes ago, Notso said: Ah OK, thanks. So we are talking only the beta for WMR for Steam, correct? Should I turn beta back ON for Steam VR? I've opted out of both for now, considering the additions to SteamVR require also running the WMR beta. Ryzen 7 5800X3D | 64GB DDR4 3600| MSI RTX 4080 16GB Ventus 3X OC | Samsung 970 Evo 2TB NVME | HP Reverb G2 | DIY Head Tracker Cap | Logitech X-56 throttle | VKB NXT Premium | Win 11 "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." --Arthur C Clark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 Not true at present. SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notso Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 On 5/15/2021 at 10:35 PM, speed-of-heat said: Not true at present. What's not true? Are you able to run betas of either with the current issues? System HW: i9-9900K @5ghz, MSI 11GB RTX-2080-Ti Trio, G-Skill 32GB RAM, Reverb HMD, Steam VR, TM Warthog Hotas Stick & Throttle, TM F/A-18 Stick grip add-on, TM TFRP pedals. SW: 2.5.6 OB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 That the current steamvr beta relies on the wmr for steamvr beta . SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 4 hours ago, Notso said: What's not true? Are you able to run betas of either with the current issues? I’ve said from the start that I have no issues running both betas with the current 2.7 version, and I suspect that is the case for the vast majority. 1 Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brainfreeze Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Using Steamvr beta 1.17.8 here (no idea about WMR beta nor where it would be enabled from) with 2.7 and no problem so far either i9 14900K / 64GB / RTX 4090 / Varjo Aero / Winwing Orion2 + F15EX / Virpil Wrbrd + Alpha Stick + ACE pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 10 minutes ago, Brainfreeze said: (no idea about WMR beta nor where it would be enabled from) Right click on WMR in your Steam library and go to the Betas tab. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brainfreeze Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 33 minutes ago, imacken said: Right click on WMR in your Steam library and go to the Betas tab. Thks Imacken. Looks like I am running beta indeed. i9 14900K / 64GB / RTX 4090 / Varjo Aero / Winwing Orion2 + F15EX / Virpil Wrbrd + Alpha Stick + ACE pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 for me the issue was very rare and seems to have gone away with the latest windows updates; so i am now back on the beta track again SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburne Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Steam VR still crashes for me if I use the Beta of WMR for Steam VR. No Steam VR crashes if I opt out of that WMR beta. Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Fascinating how experiences are different. In the last 3 years of using VR, I have never had a SteamVR (beta or non-beta) crash on all the different hardware I have owned in that time. 1 Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 I have often reflected that in the PC eco system it is a complete surprise that actually anything works at all, the total number of variables are staggering ...even just at the hardware level. 1 SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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