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I only have one request:

 

Line birds that didn't have fancy nose art on them--unless that nose art was standard for the whole squadron.

 

The famous named birds or aircraft of specific pilots are great, no doubt, but it's also nice to have bog-standard "grunts" of the sky.

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I only have one request:

 

Line birds that didn't have fancy nose art on them--unless that nose art was standard for the whole squadron.

 

The famous named birds or aircraft of specific pilots are great, no doubt, but it's also nice to have bog-standard "grunts" of the sky.

 

Yeah absolutely. I would love the generic ones of the 365th FS

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Could this be done even though it is a d-28 version vs 30? I actually talked to this pilot and played pool with his son and in his honor would love this skin. I have this skin in anothe sim and a talented skinner Pip made it.

 

 

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I've hunted around a bit, trying to find real pic of this livery, but no joy. There was an Arizona ANG unit, via Luke AFB, that flew F/P-47D's. From 1946 to 1953. The 197th fighter squadron...

 

I'd love to have this as a skin, and would use it as part of a fictitious Korea era deployment. :-) I'll keep looking for real pics... Hoping someone might be interested in skinning.

 

1:72 Republic F-47D-30 "Thunderbolt"; aircraft 44-41415 of the 197th Fighter Squadron, Arizona ANG (Air National Guard); Luke AFB (Arizona), 1952 (Whif/Hobby Boss kit)

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I've hunted around a bit, trying to find real pic of this livery, but no joy. There was an Arizona ANG unit, via Luke AFB, that flew F/P-47D's. From 1946 to 1953. The 197th fighter squadron...

 

I'd love to have this as a skin, and would use it as part of a fictitious Korea era deployment. :-) I'll keep looking for real pics... Hoping someone might be interested in skinning.

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1:72 Republic F-47D-30 "Thunderbolt"; aircraft 44-41415 of the 197th Fighter Squadron, Arizona ANG (Air National Guard); Luke AFB (Arizona), 1952 (Whif/Hobby Boss kit)

 

Are you referring to my post? I have a bunch of pics the pilot have me.

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On 8/20/2020 at 11:39 PM, javelina1 said:

I've hunted around a bit, trying to find real pic of this livery, but no joy. There was an Arizona ANG unit, via Luke AFB, that flew F/P-47D's. From 1946 to 1953. The 197th fighter squadron...

 

I'd love to have this as a skin, and would use it as part of a fictitious Korea era deployment. 🙂 I'll keep looking for real pics... Hoping someone might be interested in skinning.

 

1:72 Republic F-47D-30 "Thunderbolt"; aircraft 44-41415 of the 197th Fighter Squadron, Arizona ANG (Air National Guard); Luke AFB (Arizona), 1952 (Whif/Hobby Boss kit)

There's a reason you cannot find any P-47's in 197th squadron ANG livery.....they never flew the P-47 as an ANG unit.

 

Last year I did a number of F-86 skins for a member of the Arizona ANG, specifically the 197th which are known by the name "Copperheads", hence the snake design.

 

As a result I did a LOT of research into the squadron history and scoured the internet for pictures as well as used a book in my collection called "The United States Air National Guard" by Rene J Francillon (published by AEROSPACE).

 

The 197th traces its lineage back to WW2 and started as the 412th Fighter Squadron of the 373rd Fighter Group, 9th Air Force. Then the 412th did fly the P-47, but never in the "Copperhead" livery.

 

On the 7th November 1945 the 412thFS was deactivated. It was reactivated on the 24th May 1946 as the 197thFS of the Arizona ANG but was not assigned Federal recognition until 12th December 1946.

 

It then received its first aircraft as the 197th "Copperheads", which were....F-51D Mustangs.

 

In the winter of 1950 it converted to the F-84B served in combat in Korea for 12 months before returning to the USA and converting to the F-51H Mustang on 1 November 1952. In the coming years it used the F-86A, F-86L, the F-104A/B, before eventually having its role changed to a transport squadron and ultimately as the refuelling squadron it is today.

 

So that history aside, there is also the problem that the 197th "Copperhead" markings and nose/tail colours were NEVER yellow, they were always a metallic copper paint and looked very cool in their day. Pilots often painted their helmets the same colour.

 

How this misconception started I do not know. If I was to guess it would be that one illustrator tried to work from a B&W photo and got it wrong, and the mistake was carried on in book illustrations, model kits and decals for the years since.

 

The Arizona sun certainly faded the paint as can be seen below, but it was never yellow.

 

I hope that clears up the mystery for you.

 

A screenshot of the Sabre skins I did and some of the research photos I have regarding the 197th.

 

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On 1/7/2021 at 6:15 AM, BoNidle said:

There's a reason you cannot find any P-47's in 197th squadron ANG livery.....they never flew the P-47 as an ANG unit.

 

Last year I did a number of F-86 skins for a member of the Arizona ANG, specifically the 197th which are known by the name "Copperheads", hence the snake design.

 

As a result I did a LOT of research into the squadron history and scoured the internet for pictures as well as used a book in my collection called "The United States Air National Guard" by Rene J Francillon (published by AEROSPACE).

 

The 197th traces its lineage back to WW2 and started as the 412th Fighter Squadron of the 373rd Fighter Group, 9th Air Force. Then the 412th did fly the P-47, but never in the "Copperhead" livery.

 

On the 7th November 1945 the 412thFS was deactivated. It was reactivated on the 24th May 1946 as the 197thFS of the Arizona ANG but was not assigned Federal recognition until 12th December 1946.

 

It then received its first aircraft as the 197th "Copperheads", which were....F-51D Mustangs.

 

In the winter of 1950 it converted to the F-84B served in combat in Korea for 12 months before returning to the USA and converting to the F-51H Mustang on 1 November 1952. In the coming years it used the F-86A, F-86L, the F-104A/B, before eventually having its role changed to a transport squadron and ultimately as the refuelling squadron it is today.

 

So that history aside, there is also the problem that the 197th "Copperhead" markings and nose/tail colours were NEVER yellow, they were always a metallic copper paint and looked very cool in their day. Pilots often painted their helmets the same colour.

 

How this misconception started I do not know. If I was to guess it would be that one illustrator tried to work from a B&W photo and got it wrong, and the mistake was carried on in book illustrations, model kits and decals for the years since.

 

The Arizona sun certainly faded the paint as can be seen below, but it was never yellow.

 

I hope that clears up the mystery for you.

 

A screenshot of the Sabre skins I did and some of the research photos I have regarding the 197th.

 

Mst1o37.jpg

 

Sjz3WFh.jpg

 

F7QSbmj.jpg

 

 

 

that F-86 looks awesome!  are you able to share it? would love to have a copy and fly with it.

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Here you go Javelina1.

 

These were done just prior to me getting to grips with roughmets so they are the "old style" spec metal finish.

 

I had intended to upgrade them to roughmets at some point but haven't got around to it yet.


https://www.mediafire.com/file/phkf6fil8cxa4uv/197thFIS_Arizona_ANG.zip/file

 

https://www.mediafire.com/file/b1bhllc7sbqxa74/197thFIS_Arizona_ANG-Cactus_Blank.zip/file

 

Enjoy.

 

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5 hours ago, BoNidle said:

Here you go Javelina1.

 

These were done just prior to me getting to grips with roughmets so they are the "old style" spec metal finish.

 

I had intended to upgrade them to roughmets at some point but haven't got around to it yet.


https://www.mediafire.com/file/phkf6fil8cxa4uv/197thFIS_Arizona_ANG.zip/file

 

https://www.mediafire.com/file/b1bhllc7sbqxa74/197thFIS_Arizona_ANG-Cactus_Blank.zip/file

 

Enjoy.

 

Bo

gracias!  really appreciated M8!

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Well, if by any chance some artist finds it interesting, here´s a request:

 

F-47-30-RA  flown by Portuguese Air Force during the early fifties. 50 aircraft were provided by the US from surviving WW2 Jugs and this particular one had the USAF serial number 44-90251.

Unfortunately none of the planes were preserved for museum display, being the remainig airframes sold for scrap. 

There are some images on the net but, unlike these model kit images, none shows the insignias and serial numbers painted over and under the wings, aswell as nº 3 airbase´s symbol and motto.

 

 

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