Purchasing the Persian Gulf Map for MP, who's buying it?

[F900EX]

This is purely an observation with a question...

 

At the time of this post lots of Caucasus servers with the top 5 active servers having about 134 players on

 

Nevada Test range Map, Top 5 active servers with only 9 players between on all 5 with 4 players been the most active on one server.

 

I know a lot of work goes into the maps, but when 80% of my time is played on MP servers and I bought the Nevada map no one seems to use, I'm trying to justifly if its worth the expense for the Persian Gulf map.

 

I see Mags show the Persian Map of during the F-18 Videos, looks nice and all but do you players intend to purchase ? or will stick with Caucasus ?

[BlazingTrigger]

I for one will be playing it online and offline but I remember reading somewhere that only about 5% of DCS users actually play online. The online players are nowhere near a true representation.

 

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[Mr_sukebe]

I'll be buying it, but not with any genuine expectation that I'll be spending a lot of time in multi-player.

[Rudel_chw]

I will buy it, and MP is not critical to me, as I mostly fly single and on missions of my own design ... tough I will wait for it to be on discount (unless it has a pre-release discount) :)

[Dino Might]

Definitely going to buy it with the expectation that it will see only SP and limited private MP use.

 

Now, once WWII assets are more filled out, and some of the more adventurous ME gurus get involved, I imagine there will be a pretty sweet Afrika Korps scenario up and running using select parts of the SOH map as pretend Tobruk, El Alamein, etc.

Edited April 9, 2018 by Dino Might

[Drexx]

I for one will be playing it online and offline but I remember reading somewhere that only about 5% of DCS users actually play online. The online players are nowhere near a true representation.

 

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QUIT SAYING THIS its not frigan true

[msalama]

According to ED, it is true. And they've said so a couple of times already.

[Drexx]

According to ED, it is true. And they've said so a couple of times already.

 

I said this in a different thread but hey:

 

"Multiplayer should be a gem and the main stay of this sim, single player, playing against the same thing/AI over and over,I really don't understand this mentality, it doesn't make ANY sense to me, I started the DDCS channel 3 months ago, my discord has 1421 registered unique players and my server ALONE has had 2998 unique UCID's (ED identifier) on my server since I reset the database 3 months ago, by your statement ALONE, you say there is 59960 DCS single players out there that played in the last 3 months (saying that all the multiplayer players have played on my server at least once, which also isnt true, its just a small subset), I am pretty sure that 5% percentage is NOT correct.(im not making numbers up, I have it all in my database if you want to see it.)"

[FragBum]

I will be getting it day one. Well at least soon after.

[firmek]

According to ED, it is true. And they've said so a couple of times already.

Could you share the a link where ED said so? Not being provocative just trying to be factual.

[lemoen]

I said this in a different thread but hey:

 

"Multiplayer should be a gem and the main stay of this sim, single player, playing against the same thing/AI over and over,I really don't understand this mentality, it doesn't make ANY sense to me, I started the DDCS channel 3 months ago, my discord has 1421 registered unique players and my server ALONE has had 2998 unique UCID's (ED identifier) on my server since I reset the database 3 months ago, by your statement ALONE, you say there is 59960 DCS single players out there that played in the last 3 months (saying that all the multiplayer players have played on my server at least once, which also isnt true, its just a small subset), I am pretty sure that 5% percentage is NOT correct.(im not making numbers up, I have it all in my database if you want to see it.)"

 

Your numbers don't invalidate the statement that MP numbers are much smaller than SP numbers. I've also seen ED saying this (not sure if its 5%), but can't remember which threads.

 

Either way, looking at the multiplayer server browser's player and server counts will show you that there are nowhere near enough MP players to provide ED with enough money or incentive to spend the effort making DCS, which leads me to believe that there must be a pretty large SP userbase out there that provides the means.

[QuiGon]

This is purely an observation with a question...

 

At the time of this post lots of Caucasus servers with the top 5 active servers having about 134 players on

 

Nevada Test range Map, Top 5 active servers with only 9 players between on all 5 with 4 players been the most active on one server.

 

I know a lot of work goes into the maps, but when 80% of my time is played on MP servers and I bought the Nevada map no one seems to use, I'm trying to justifly if its worth the expense for the Persian Gulf map.

 

I see Mags show the Persian Map of during the F-18 Videos, looks nice and all but do you players intend to purchase ? or will stick with Caucasus ?

 

I will definately buy the Persian Gulf map on day 1 and as I'm paying MP 80-90% of the time I have the clear expectation to play this map in MP. I think a problem with Nevada is its status as a training environment, while Persian Gulf will be a combat theatre just like Caucasus. At least that is what I dislike about Nevada.

 

Also, I'm curious why you omitted the Normandy map in your comparison?

[Buckeye]

100% buying this day 1, and once the mission devs have time to design new missions, I fully expect the big servers to run missions here (on rotation).

 

 

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[philstyle]

Will not buy it. Am still waiting for other products I own to be completed.

[Bloodhound57]

Day 1 purchase for me. Looks amazing.

[cailean_556]

I said this in a different thread but hey:

 

"Multiplayer should be a gem and the main stay of this sim, single player, playing against the same thing/AI over and over,I really don't understand this mentality, it doesn't make ANY sense to me, I started the DDCS channel 3 months ago, my discord has 1421 registered unique players and my server ALONE has had 2998 unique UCID's (ED identifier) on my server since I reset the database 3 months ago, by your statement ALONE, you say there is 59960 DCS single players out there that played in the last 3 months (saying that all the multiplayer players have played on my server at least once, which also isnt true, its just a small subset), I am pretty sure that 5% percentage is NOT correct.(im not making numbers up, I have it all in my database if you want to see it.)"

 

First of all, slightly off topic, and I'm not coming at you personally, but who exactly are you to say what should and shouldn't be the mainstay of any game, let alone a sim? That's like saying "Oh, you can only play Poker with blue-coloured dice only, if anyone plays with other coloured dice, they're playing it wrong". You like Multiplayer? Cool! High five! You have over a thousand people on your Discord? Great! Outstanding! You go girl... Or guy. Whatever.

 

The thing about this Sim is that it's set up for all kinds of players. Single player, Multiplayer Co-Op, Multiplayer PvP, realism weirdos (I'm one of them), more "arcade"-style fans, stock purists, modders - almost everyone is represented here. That's a big drawcard few other games, let alone sims, can boast to have. To say that PvP is the ONLY way, or the main way, to use this sim is extremely short-sighted.

 

I don't know the numbers, nor do I much care. As long as people are flying the sim, people keep buying their products and ED and co keep churning out quality modules - that's what I care about.

 

Now, back on topic. I will definitely be buying Persian Gulf. I used to run my missions out of Vaziani (and pop over the hills into a fictional REDFOR country) but I've just switched to Nevada, flying out of Nellis while REDFOR flies out of Tonopah, to get used to desert/sand. I might change tact once the Gulf is released and start flying against, or for, Iran as opposed to a fictional country.

[Dino Might]

I said this in a different thread but hey:

 

"Multiplayer should be a gem and the main stay of this sim, single player, playing against the same thing/AI over and over,I really don't understand this mentality, it doesn't make ANY sense to me, I started the DDCS channel 3 months ago, my discord has 1421 registered unique players and my server ALONE has had 2998 unique UCID's (ED identifier) on my server since I reset the database 3 months ago, by your statement ALONE, you say there is 59960 DCS single players out there that played in the last 3 months (saying that all the multiplayer players have played on my server at least once, which also isnt true, its just a small subset), I am pretty sure that 5% percentage is NOT correct.(im not making numbers up, I have it all in my database if you want to see it.)"

 

Probably are more than 60k DCS players in the past 3 months. Do the math on module price vs how much it takes to run the studios.

[DowntownSIX]

I'll be holding off to see what the MP servers look like once it lands. Right now, other than a lot of Red Flag campaigns, NTTR is worthless (to me).

[msalama]

ED themselves have said the MP crowd is a minority. And whether you believe it or not, they're actually the guys with the numbers.

 

But never mind. No personal stake in this one way or another since I do both, so I think I'll just leave this discussion now. S!

[MurderOne]

Let's see. Hornets? Tomcats? Carriers? The Gulf? Yep. I only fly multiplayer occasionally, and I spend most of my time in single player. I'll be snapping it up for sure.

[smallberries]

Buying it? Of course.

[Tinkickef]

Yep, I will be buying it and setting up various single player missions on it. Rarely go near multiplayer.

 

After joining a server, starting up and taxying to the active, I observed a worthy come blasting out of a shelter in full afterburner, cross my taxiway a wingspan length in front of my hog, at right angles to the taxiway; zoom across the grass, across the active runway, across more grass before finally wobbling into the sky.

Right there right then was when I decided multiplayer was not for me. :megalol:

Edited April 9, 2018 by Tinkickef

[Spudknocker]

I have said this before but I think it is a true statement (at least I hope it will be), but I think that the Hornet, Tomcat and Phantom coming out coupled with the Persian Gulf Map will help boost DCS multiplayer by a lot.

 

The reasoning i see for this is that you have two sides, Iran and lets say NATO that have full fidelity jets on this map, the IRIAF gets F-5's, F-4E's, F-14A's, MiG-21BIS's (stand in for F-7), Mirage F1 and a smattering of FC3 Su-25's and MiG-29's

 

The NATO/Arab side has F-14A/B's, F/A-18C's, M2000C's, AV-8B's, A-10C's and others with a few FC3 F-15C's and A-10A's thrown in.

 

I think the Persian Gulf map is a good way of getting around the hurdles involved with making Full Fidelity Russian aircraft. I also think that having some sort of built in VoIP in DCS would would be a huge boon to multiplayer DCS, its very cumbersome and awkward having to download a seperate program for voice communication and not every server uses the same program, that is cumbersome and I'm sure chases a lot of people away from DCS Multiplayer.

 

Also DCS world will be hugely boosted by having a flyable F/A-18, F-14 and F-4 these are hugely iconic aircraft that at least in the US will draw far more players (IMHO) than a A-10, M2000C or AV-8B if just because they are so well known. I think the only aircraft that could top the F/A-18 and F-4 would be an F-16 in sheer draw and recognizably.

 

I will certainly buy this map and I am definitely hoping that the map will help to boost multiplayer!

[Neil Gardner]

I play most of the time off line. I love the idea of MP but there is a huge learning curve to enjoy traversing off line. It takes me a long time to learn how to use these beautifully complex models and that is a considerable challenge in itself. If I went out on MP now I would likely be gone in a few seconds. I will certainly get the Persian Gulf map because I do love these maps as interactive battlefield learning environments. One day I may hesitantly peep out into MP, but studying these incredible warplanes in a complex AI map battlefield learning environment is a very challenging and enjoyable matter in itself.

[Revelation]

This is purely an observation with a question...

 

At the time of this post lots of Caucasus servers with the top 5 active servers having about 134 players on

 

Nevada Test range Map, Top 5 active servers with only 9 players between on all 5 with 4 players been the most active on one server.

 

I know a lot of work goes into the maps, but when 80% of my time is played on MP servers and I bought the Nevada map no one seems to use, I'm trying to justifly if its worth the expense for the Persian Gulf map.

 

I see Mags show the Persian Map of during the F-18 Videos, looks nice and all but do you players intend to purchase ? or will stick with Caucasus ?

 

You used to find only NTTR maps online for the longest time in the Open Beta, even after Normandy release. I think most people simply took a break from NTTR when the revised Caucasus was released and to enjoy carrier ops with the Harrier.

 

I still fly over NTTR from time to time.

 

When Persian Gulf drops it will become the most popular option for some time to come.