Kev2go Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 (edited) Both variants are valid for their respectable eras. As for certain users preferring 1 version over the other, This is nothing new. Its also the same thing in every other discussion aircraft discussion. a Desire for additional variants from earlier time periods. F14A/B for the cold war nostalgia ( even if the latter has some features post 1990) and the later F14D which is representative of the technological modernization bringing parity to other gen 4 fighters of the time, and applicable in a post cold war era from early 1990s up to a mid 2000's time period into the early days of the GWOT. The F14D has appeal as it is for that reason the representation of the ultimate and final evolution of the tomcat. IN any case, considering that heatblur did express interest in continuing the tomcat journey, which implied they were interested or at least considering doing later tomcat variations in the future. Edited July 7, 2019 by Kev2go Build: Windows 10 64 bit, Case/Tower: Corsair Graphite 760tm ,Asus Strix Z370- E Motherboard, Intel Core i7 8700k ( Noctua NH14S cooler),Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 32gb ram (2666 mhz) , (Asus strix oc edition) Nvidia Gtx 1080 8gb , Evga g2 850 watt psu, Hardrives ; WD 1TB HDD, Samsung evo 860 pro 1 TB SSD, Samsung evo 850 pro 1TB SSD. Link to post Share on other sites
Phantom88 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 So HB has no intention of making the D at this point...or? I'd imagine we'll find out more after The release of F-14A,A-6ai and The HB Carrier? Hoping ? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]Patrick Link to post Share on other sites
NineGzuz Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Sign me up for the F-14D :-) As much as I'm enjoying the F-14B, I do miss the more modern technology at times. Link to post Share on other sites
Rabbisaur Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 If HB can make a F-14D for us, I would like to pay for it same amount of money as I paid for F-14A/B Link to post Share on other sites
Xenovia Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 I'd instantly buy the F-14D if HB decided to pursue it. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to post Share on other sites
AcroGimp Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Just imagine the salt that would flow if SuperTomcat's were running wild, the power and maneuverability we already enjoy with the Big Fighter, coupled with modern HUD, APG-71, JDAMs, Link16 - it would be glorious and I'd pay full module price happily. DISCO [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] A-4E | F-5E | F-14B | F/A-18C | AV-8B NA | UH-1H | FC3 | Yak-52 | KA-50 | Mi-8 | SA-342 i7 8700K | GTX 1070 Ti | 32GB 3000 DDR4 FAA Comm'l/Instrument, FAST Formation Wingman, Yak-52 Owner/Pilot Link to post Share on other sites
jared9191 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Just imagine the salt that would flow if SuperTomcat's were running wild, the power and maneuverability we already enjoy with the Big Fighter, coupled with modern HUD, APG-71, JDAMs, Link16 - it would be glorious and I'd pay full module price happily. DISCO Did the F-14D have a fly by wire flight computer also? Link to post Share on other sites
AcroGimp Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Did the F-14D have a fly by wire flight computer also?I believe it had a DFCS, yes. I really enjoy flying the Cat as-is, and am not sure I would want the power-steering feel of the Hornet, but it probably would make employing all that power and the extremely clever aerodynamics the Turkey enjoys easier. I like the challenge of getting the most out of the Big Fighter without HAL 9000's help. DISCO [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] A-4E | F-5E | F-14B | F/A-18C | AV-8B NA | UH-1H | FC3 | Yak-52 | KA-50 | Mi-8 | SA-342 i7 8700K | GTX 1070 Ti | 32GB 3000 DDR4 FAA Comm'l/Instrument, FAST Formation Wingman, Yak-52 Owner/Pilot Link to post Share on other sites
VirusAM Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 I believe it had a DFCS, yes. I really enjoy flying the Cat as-is, and am not sure I would want the power-steering feel of the Hornet, but it probably would make employing all that power and the extremely clever aerodynamics the Turkey enjoys easier. I like the challenge of getting the most out of the Big Fighter without HAL 9000's help. DISCODfcs Is not fly-by wire Also the harrier has something similar and it is not fbw. However it is close in feelings to it Vincent "Virus" DThe PC: R9 5900x/RTX2080Ti, 64GB RAM. Joystick bases: Virpil T-50CM2 with 20cm extension (Center) Joystick grips: Realsimulator F18 Throttles: Winwing Super Taurus Hardware: Saitek Combat Rudder, 4x Thrustmaster Cougar MFD, Logitech G13, Winwing Panels VR: Valve Index Monitor: Samsung Odyssey G5, TrackIr v5 Link to post Share on other sites
AcroGimp Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 To clarify, courtesy of MATS: "The new flight control computer commands are designed to automatically apply anti-spin flight control inputs as angle-of-attack and yaw threshols are exceeded. The DFCS also includes aileron-to-rudder interconnect logic to minimize dutch roll characteristics and make heading control easier during landing." and "The DFCS will bring enhanced controllability and improved performance in the high angle-of-attack and landing envelope for F-14As, F-14Bs and F-14Ds. Handling qualities were already successfully demonstrated aboard USS Enterprise in October 1999 during numerous landing approaches." and "The DFCS will improve the F-14s maneuverability, survivability and reliability and will give the Tomcat an aid for spin avoidance. The pilots will be able to maneuver more aggressively in the flight envelope and also the landing characteristics will improve." So, technically, not FBW because the existing hydro-mechanical systems remained with physical connection between the pilot and the system, but it is performing most of the duties and protections that define modern FBW systems. http://www.anft.net/f-14/f14-detail-dfcs.htm DISCO [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] A-4E | F-5E | F-14B | F/A-18C | AV-8B NA | UH-1H | FC3 | Yak-52 | KA-50 | Mi-8 | SA-342 i7 8700K | GTX 1070 Ti | 32GB 3000 DDR4 FAA Comm'l/Instrument, FAST Formation Wingman, Yak-52 Owner/Pilot Link to post Share on other sites
Belphe Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Full price from me towards the "D" as well.. Never say never, Baby! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to post Share on other sites
Bearfoot Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 +1 on the "D" for me, too. In fact, make that +2. At full price (and by that I mean whatever Heatblur wants for it) Link to post Share on other sites
WildWeasel303 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Until the relevant documentation and manuals can be sourced, it's a pipe dream (but we already know that, at least most of us). That being said, I thoroughly enjoy the Tomcat even with Jester continually letting me down like a workaholic stepfather. Having the D as an option would be a clear 'price is no object' scenario for me. Modules: F-16C / F-14B / F/A-18C / A-10C / AV-8B / JF-17 / M2000C / C-101 / L-39 / AJS-37 / F-5 / MiG-21 / F-86 / FC3 / FW190A8 / FW190D9 / BF-109K4 / Spitfire Mk IX / P-51D / KA-50 / UH-1 / Mi-8 / SA342 / C.A. / NTTR / P.G. / Normandy / Super Carrier System: Fractal Meshify C / Ryzen 3700X / 32gb Trident Z Neo 3600mHz / ASUS TUF X570 / Corsair H110i Pro / RTX 2070 Super FE / 1TB SSD / Corsair RM1000x IRL: USAF F-16C Crew Chief / Private Pilot Link to post Share on other sites
TacoGrease Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 I’ll buy 3, full price. Or blank check, whatever. We can make that legally binding. 2080Ti FTW3 Ultra - G.Skill RJ 32GB (16x2) DDR4 3200 - Ryzen 2700X 4.2Ghz OC - Corsair H100i Pro - Samsung 970 EVO M.2 2TB - TMW HOTAS w Delta Sim - F/A-18C grip - 10cm Sahaj - TrackIR 5 Pro - Rift CV1 - MFG CWind - BuddyFox UFC - DSD RK II - Cougar MFDs w/ LCDs - Foxx Mounts - VPC MongoosT-50CM base - Maps: NTTR, Persian Gulf, Normandy - Modules: FC3, F-14A/B, F/A-18C, AV-8B, A-10C, F-16C, F-86, KA-50, P-51D, WWII assets, and [insert campaign name] Dreaming of the F-15E / F-14D / Rhino Link to post Share on other sites
Bearfoot Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Until the relevant documentation and manuals can be sourced, it's a pipe dream (but we already know that, at least most of us). That being said, I thoroughly enjoy the Tomcat even with Jester continually letting me down like a workaholic stepfather. Having the D as an option would be a clear 'price is no object' scenario for me. I'm probably wrong, but from what I can find in terms of open source information, I don't think there is more documentation on the B available than the D. Link to post Share on other sites
Bearfoot Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 I’ll buy 3, full price. Or blank check, whatever. We can make that legally binding. :D :thumbup: Link to post Share on other sites
Gwalker99 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 I want the fkkin' Tornado ... ground attack version please.... Link to post Share on other sites
TacoGrease Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Definitely the wrong thread xD I want the fkkin' Tornado ... ground attack version please.... 2080Ti FTW3 Ultra - G.Skill RJ 32GB (16x2) DDR4 3200 - Ryzen 2700X 4.2Ghz OC - Corsair H100i Pro - Samsung 970 EVO M.2 2TB - TMW HOTAS w Delta Sim - F/A-18C grip - 10cm Sahaj - TrackIR 5 Pro - Rift CV1 - MFG CWind - BuddyFox UFC - DSD RK II - Cougar MFDs w/ LCDs - Foxx Mounts - VPC MongoosT-50CM base - Maps: NTTR, Persian Gulf, Normandy - Modules: FC3, F-14A/B, F/A-18C, AV-8B, A-10C, F-16C, F-86, KA-50, P-51D, WWII assets, and [insert campaign name] Dreaming of the F-15E / F-14D / Rhino Link to post Share on other sites
Banzaiib Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Until the relevant documentation and manuals can be sourced, it's a pipe dream (but we already know that, at least most of us). That being said, I thoroughly enjoy the Tomcat even with Jester continually letting me down like a workaholic stepfather. Having the D as an option would be a clear 'price is no object' scenario for me. 100% agree, shame our relations with Iran are so crappy. C'est la vie... Did the AN/APG-71 have medium PRF? Is that classified i wonder? also, 10/10 would buy Link to post Share on other sites
KL0083 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 +1,alone with the STC21!!! Link to post Share on other sites
Fusedspine33 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Another +1 to a D version. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites
Deadlift Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 +1 on the F-14 D Link to post Share on other sites
Banzaiib Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 +1 on the F-14 D guys, HB basically said it's not going to happen. They don't have the documentation for the systems to make it. It's all classified, since Iran still flies the 14A, and they're not exactly friends with the US. Link to post Share on other sites
JayBird Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 +1,alone with the STC21!!! Oh yes, the Super Tomcat. There's certainly a ton of documentation about this totally real aircraft... You lot need to keep dreaming about the F-14D, maybe we'll see a few years after Iran scraps their Tomcats, maybe. For now, just be thankful that we have such an outstanding recreation of an actual historic jet. F-14 | F/A-18C | F-16C | AJS-37 | M-2000C | A-10C | UH-1H | F-5E | P-51 | Bf 109 Nevada | Persian Gulf | Normandy | Supercarrier YouTube | Steam | Discord: JayBird#4400 i7-7700K | GTX 980 | 32gb RAM | 500gb SSD | 2TB HDD| Track IR | TM Warthog HOTAS | Logitech Pro Pedals Link to post Share on other sites
draconus Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 guys, HB basically said it's not going to happen. They don't have the documentation for the systems to make it. It's all classified, since Iran still flies the 14A, and they're not exactly friends with the US. Why the Iranian Alphas has anything to do with possibility of doing Delta? We already have B and soon we gonna get A, so? I don't care for the D, just curious... starting to hate the aircraft wishlist threads too :thumbup: i3-10100F 3.6-4.3GHz, 16GB DDR4 2666, GTX970 4GB, SSD SATA3, 27" LCD FullHD, Win 10 Home 64 T16000M HOTAS, customTiR FC3, F-14A/B NTTR, PG Supercarrier Link to post Share on other sites
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