PLEASE fix the Mig-21 canopy glass.

[Deano87]

Can somebody from Mag3 Please spend some time fixing the canopy glass textures as seen from the inside of the cockpit? Currently the Mig-21 is unusable for me in 2.5, I've had to stop flying it completely because I can't see out of it 75% of the time. I personally don't care about the rest of the cockpit textures right now, just let me see out of it please!!! This has been Borked since PBR came in and its unbelievable its taken this long to be fixed!

[CoBlue]

+1

But you better post it in the Bugs and Problems section. To get it fixed.

[Stingray]

+1

 

There is a post in the 2.5 Bugs forum: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=205526

 

The mig is almost unflyable in it's current state. Spotting aircraft, which is already difficult in any module in this sim, is almost impossible in the mig-21.

[Buckeye]

Pretty sad that people paid money for this module and the devs can't be bothered to make a simple fix on this to make it flyable for it's customers.

[=37.Sqn= Mjugen]

This was reported to their (mantis) bug tracker, it is very problematic indeed, but have no idea if will be fixed… :(

[Deano87]

Pretty sad that people paid money for this module and the devs can't be bothered to make a simple fix on this to make it flyable for it's customers.

 

Yeah, they've had 6 or 7 months to get this sorted out.. :disgust:

[gorzasty]

Oh no... I'd really buy mig 21 nad mig 15 modules but now I don't know.

 

Wysłane z mojego SM-G935F przy użyciu Tapatalka

[Torso]

Yeah, they've had 6 or 7 months to get this sorted out.. :disgust:

 

 

This is where ED needs to step in and demand the Dev fix this crap right away. This is where ED needs to show a little leadership for their title and reach out to the dev, who are obviously purposely ignoring the issue. This would take probably a very small amount of time to address( an hour, a couple?) but for some reason these devs act like they cannot hear the customers.

 

ED needs to step up as they have the ability to force them to address this. But does not seem that is ED's take on it. Hmm how can that be? DCS is THEIR title. They should be able to demand a 3rd party dev address such module breaking issues right away.

[Deano87]

Oh no... I'd really buy mig 21 nad mig 15 modules but now I don't know.

 

Wysłane z mojego SM-G935F przy użyciu Tapatalka

 

The Mig-15 doesn't suffer this issue, I've been flying it a lot recently :thumbup:

[Hiromachi]

Guys,

cockpit glass along with the rest of cockpit textures is still under development. We've mentioned that in previous development update so it's known and being worked on, dont worry. But despite what some may seem to be suggesting, it is not an easy fix and reworking textures simply takes time. Rudel is doing this as fast as possible.

[Rudel_chw]

... despite what some may seem to be suggesting, it is not an easy fix and reworking textures simply takes time. Rudel is doing this as fast as possible.

 

 

I understand, thanks a lot for clearing this and hope it will get fixed.

Best regards.

[Deano87]

Guys,

cockpit glass along with the rest of cockpit textures is still under development. We've mentioned that in previous development update so it's known and being worked on, dont worry. But despite what some may seem to be suggesting, it is not an easy fix and reworking textures simply takes time. Rudel is doing this as fast as possible.

 

There is a difference between reworking all cockpit textures to be fully PBR compatible and fixing a blocking bug/issue that basically stops the aircraft from being flyable at all. ED had the F-15 which had the same issue fixed within a couple of weeks of PBR being released.

 

I personally have years of experience dealing with both texture maps and 3DS Max material settings and how they work within game engines and I can tell you that fixing the canopy glass and gunsight (if it has the same issue) is not 6 months work.

 

I kinda assumed this issue would have been fixed for the 2.5 release and was completely dumbfounded to find out that a bug that renders the aircraft all but unusable for combat that was present on the first day of PBR is still an issue several months later :doh:

 

I completely understand that reworking all the cockpit textures for PBR would take significant time. But at the moment you're not prioritising things correctly, you squash the big issues first and then work on the smaller stuff once the player base at least has a product that they can use! Barely being able to see out of the cockpit most of the time and not being able to see out of the cockpit AT ALL some of the time is a pretty friggin' big issue in my book.

 

Push a fix out.. I don't care if its quick, dirty and ugly, at least let me fly the aircraft the I paid for and SEE OUT.

 

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Edited April 2, 2018 by Deano87

[NeilWillis]

Yeah, they've had 6 or 7 months to get this sorted out.. :disgust:

 

Except of course 2.5 has only been out less than 3 months, so you might want to re-visit that statement and correct it.

[Deano87]

Except of course 2.5 has only been out less than 3 months, so you might want to re-visit that statement and correct it.

 

Except of course that PBR has been in 2.2 since August last year and the Mig-21 has been exhibiting this issue since then.

[Torso]

Except of course that PBR has been in 2.2 since August last year and the Mig-21 has been exhibiting this issue since then.

 

Bingo. Along with other modules as well. Re-working the entire cockpit..sure that I can see will take a while. But to push out the canopy fix for these modules is not the same thing as reworking the entire cockpit. Canopy fixes for ALL of these modules should have been put out when the issues surfaced in 2.X. There are no other reasons they have not been made available other than A)lack of knowledge of the issue, which is ridiculous. Or B)They just don't care and are too focused on the next early release product to deal with their existing early release products. I am going with B from how the business model of DCS is.

 

Either way, the only ones who are suffering are the ones paying the bills, the customers. How is that good business?

Edited April 2, 2018 by Torso

[Weedwacker]

There is a mod on the ACG teamspeak server that gives you a clear canopy, also I see a lot of the texture problems in the cockpit from 2.2 that affected the dials and labels of switches seem to be gone but yeah the glass is hard to see out of but I know they will fix, they are much smaller team then ed so I wouldn’t compare the two companies.

 

Also for the forth coming argument about how the community shouldn’t have to fix a pay ware module, I would just relax, most guys where using the clear glass cockpit anyway before 2.x.

 

Yeah I’m a dcs apologist, the sim speaks for itself, nothing else like it so I try to support the devs as much as possible and refrain from the angry criticism.

 

We all payed for it, they know it, and thank god they are still around to update it, how old is this module now?

 

 

Objective Criticism would be key here, lots and lots of objective criticism.

 

The canopy glare is over done, please give us a temp fix to just avoid frustrations, thank you.

[thrustvector]

and for me the glass is fine, with DS off so don't let that put you off buying it

[=37.Sqn= Mjugen]

and for me the glass is fine, with DS off so don't let that put you off buying it

Please don’t let be deceived by such claims, with DS off, speed trees among other things just looks wrong….

[thrustvector]

really? read the rest of the forums, with ds on you get worse frame rates and terrible cockpits until it receives its fix

[Torso]

really? read the rest of the forums, with ds on you get worse frame rates and terrible cockpits until it receives its fix

 

DS on=stuff broken

DS off=stuff broken

 

The broken stuff needs to be fixed. Simple.

[thrustvector]

:) thank you

[deyneko]

DS on=stuff broken

DS off=stuff broken

 

The broken stuff needs to be fixed. Simple.

Very interesting!

Could you explain detailed how to do it (which file etc)? Or please give me a link.

[Dr_Arrow]

There is a mod on the ACG teamspeak server that gives you a clear canopy, also I see a lot of the texture problems in the cockpit from 2.2 that affected the dials and labels of switches seem to be gone but yeah the glass is hard to see out of but I know they will fix, they are much smaller team then ed so I wouldn’t compare the two companies.

 

Also for the forth coming argument about how the community shouldn’t have to fix a pay ware module, I would just relax, most guys where using the clear glass cockpit anyway before 2.x.

 

Yeah I’m a dcs apologist, the sim speaks for itself, nothing else like it so I try to support the devs as much as possible and refrain from the angry criticism.

 

We all payed for it, they know it, and thank god they are still around to update it, how old is this module now?

 

 

Objective Criticism would be key here, lots and lots of objective criticism.

 

The canopy glare is over done, please give us a temp fix to just avoid frustrations, thank you.

 

What is the MOD with the clear canopy? I have clean cockpit mod, however deferred shading canopy glare is just as bad as with the stock cockpit.

[Deano87]

What is the MOD with the clear canopy? I have clean cockpit mod, however deferred shading canopy glare is just as bad as with the stock cockpit.

 

I don't believe the deferred shading canopy glare issue can be modded away as its a 3DS Max material setting that needs to be altered and that can only be done with the original cockpit assets in max.

[CrazyGman]

Hope they fix this soon. I've been flying the Mig21 like this the entire time I've had it, and I love the plane, but I really wish it was easier to spot F5, Harriers and Viggens in the cold war server. If contacts are ever in the direction of the sun it's extremly difficult.