bkthunder Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 I just flew a mission in the totally pitch-black night of 2.5, and I have found the Harrier to be absolutely uselss in these conditions. This is definitely down to a lack of proficiency on my side with this aircraft, and probably on the other hand due to the many missing features, but what really stand out for me are the following issues: 1. The FLIR image, both on the HUD and on the MFD is so high contrast that you can't see anything except buildings 2. The TPOD image is the same as the FLIR, it's incredibly hard to make out anything, the buildings are green blocks, the rest is pitch black 3. Unable to slave TPOD to the ARBSS aiming point 4. The NVG goggles have no gain controls I'm sure things will be refined, but was the current "image quality" coming from the TOPD and FLIR wanted, or is it still under tuning? Windows 10 - Intel i7 7700K 4.2 Ghz (no OC) - Asus Strix GTX 1080 8Gb - 16GB DDR4 (3000 MHz) - SSD 500GB + WD Black FZEX 1TB 6Gb/s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomknight321 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 So one solution would be to play with deferred shading turned off. This isn’t fully ideal, as the NVGs let you pretty much see everything in the cockpit clearly (not sure if that is accurate or not) However, aside from that night flying in 2.5 with DS turned off is a whole different world, is vastly improved for sure. For now I’ve just been leaving it off all the time until it’s been fixed Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Rig Specs: i7 8700k @ 5ghz, ROG Strix z390e, 32GB DDR4 3200mhz, EVGA FTW3 1080 ti, Corsair rm750, Cooler Master ml240l RGB, Cooler Master h500p mesh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustang Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 4. The NVG goggles have no gain controls I can help out there see the attachment in this post https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3348796&postcount=6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doum76 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 So one solution would be to play with deferred shading turned off. This isn’t fully ideal, as the NVGs let you pretty much see everything in the cockpit clearly (not sure if that is accurate or not) However, aside from that night flying in 2.5 with DS turned off is a whole different world, is vastly improved for sure. For now I’ve just been leaving it off all the time until it’s been fixed Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk DS Turned off does indeed fixes some issues as you mentionned so it does also with the FlashLight, but remember not to set any clouds on, or it'll be the uglyest things ever.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullitthead Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 (edited) Just incase you weren't aware, both the TPOD and FLIR have options for white hot/black hot and switching between them often yields better image quality. One of the settings makes everything pitch black at night with white/green hot spots as you said but the other setting turns everything bright green with dark contacts as the hot spots, this is what I use for night flying. The options for these settings is on the MFDs. I haven't had any issues using the Harrier at night with deferred shading on. The new NVG effect takes a bit to get used to because you can't really see anything in cockpit but I find that it is more effective for seeing out of the cockpit than the old NVG system. Edited March 25, 2018 by Bullitthead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=Mac= Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 When I am using NVG, yes, inside the cockpit is blurred intentionally as it would be in a real Harrier. But, if you set your zoom properly, you can "peek" under the NVG to catch a glimpse of some cockpit stuff (i.e., fuel state, etc.) The Hornet is best at killing things on the ground. Now, if we could just get a GAU-8 in the nose next to the AN/APG-65, a titanium tub around the pilot, and a couple of J-58 engines in the tail... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doum76 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 So one solution would be to play with deferred shading turned off. This isn’t fully ideal, as the NVGs let you pretty much see everything in the cockpit clearly (not sure if that is accurate or not) However, aside from that night flying in 2.5 with DS turned off is a whole different world, is vastly improved for sure. For now I’ve just been leaving it off all the time until it’s been fixed Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk From what i'Ve read when i bought the AV-8B a ferw weeks ago and after 2.5 came out, the reason stuff in cockpit are blurred with NVG it's because they made it as RL NVG set to « infinity », resulting blurred close and sharp at a distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomknight321 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 When I am using NVG, yes, inside the cockpit is blurred intentionally as it would be in a real Harrier. But, if you set your zoom properly, you can "peek" under the NVG to catch a glimpse of some cockpit stuff (i.e., fuel state, etc.) This actually ends up being a problem in VR, because no matter what you do you can’t peak under the goggles (being able to peak under would be realistic) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Rig Specs: i7 8700k @ 5ghz, ROG Strix z390e, 32GB DDR4 3200mhz, EVGA FTW3 1080 ti, Corsair rm750, Cooler Master ml240l RGB, Cooler Master h500p mesh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoBlue Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 2. The TPOD image is the same as the FLIR, it's incredibly hard to make out anything, the buildings are green blocks, the rest is pitch black And you have turned on FLIR in the TPOD? Coz I don't have any probs seeing targets in TPOD FLIR mode. i7 8700k@4.7, 1080ti, DDR4 32GB, 2x SSD , HD 2TB, W10, ASUS 27", TrackIr5, TMWH, X-56, GProR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcroGimp Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 With deferred shading off the AV-8B NA is awesome at night, with/without cloud cover or moonlight - with DS on it is another story, hard to get it started let alone employ it, even though NVG's are far more realistic with DS on than off. Love this thing. 'Gimp (DISCO) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] A-4E | F-5E | F-14B | F/A-18C | AV-8B NA | UH-1H | FC3 | Yak-52 | KA-50 | Mi-8 | SA-342 i7 8700K | GTX 1070 Ti | 32GB 3000 DDR4 FAA Comm'l/Instrument, FAST Formation Wingman, Yak-52 Owner/Pilot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaakov Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 TGP FLIR Yes, I'd like to add on contrast problems when using FLIR TPOD at night - absolutely unusable you just see green or black, you can't locate anything. It started after last patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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